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WTL 7.0 Released

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  • P peterchen

    Is there any documentation avail? I like WTL, but I never got around to dig in deeper.....


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    On my web site you will find links to documentation: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurent.kempe/technical/wtl/ --- Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.

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    • J Joao Vaz

      Old post ;P Cheers, Joao Vaz

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      Chris Losinger
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      it's not old for people who didn't see the first one.


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      • R Ramon Casellas

        > Windows Template Library WTL 7.0 has been released and is now available >at: >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=37728 >The page in MSDN Downloads will follow. >This release brings full support for Visual Studio .NET and ATL 7.0, >support for new features in Windows XP, as well as fixes and >enhancements. >Thanks and enjoy! >Nenad Thanks again, Nenad. R.

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        Anyone else having problems getting the Alpha sample to compile. Im trying on WinXP Professional, VS 6.0 SP5 and I get errors that AltInitCommonControls and AtlIsAlphaBitmapResource are undelared identifier.

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          it's not old for people who didn't see the first one.


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          Joao Vaz
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          Chris Losinger wrote: it's not old for people who didn't see the first one. Of course not, I was only kidding with Ramon, actually it's just great news that a few more reposts wouldn't do any warm :) Great Nenad, the guy fought a lot for WTL to see the light on the tunnel and this is a very worthy reward, a very cool and efficent template library. Kudos for him :) WTL 7 it's the best response for the people that predicted the dead of WTL on version 1. Cheers, Joao Vaz

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          • R Ramon Casellas

            > Windows Template Library WTL 7.0 has been released and is now available >at: >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=37728 >The page in MSDN Downloads will follow. >This release brings full support for Visual Studio .NET and ATL 7.0, >support for new features in Windows XP, as well as fixes and >enhancements. >Thanks and enjoy! >Nenad Thanks again, Nenad. R.

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            Jim A Johnson
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            Does it have basic documentation yet? Support from more than one programmer working half-time? Without those it will continue to be worthless.

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            • J Jim A Johnson

              Does it have basic documentation yet? Support from more than one programmer working half-time? Without those it will continue to be worthless.

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              _Magnus_
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              Would you mind on elaborate on why it would be useless? I personally find it very useable. /Magnus

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                Does it have basic documentation yet? Support from more than one programmer working half-time? Without those it will continue to be worthless.

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                Ramon Casellas
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                Hello, Documentation... yes I agree it could be far better. However, with the ATL documentation existing in VS .NET (The CWindow and CWindowImpl CDialog and CDialogImpl among others *are* part of ATL which I do not think that is supported by a programmer working half time), and some simple yet welcome documentation efforts (you may cfr the links section on the WTL group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtl), things are getting better. On the otherhand, the source it's quite self-explanatory... once you get the "feeling"... For most basic usage they are wrappers around the SDK (which *is* well documented) and has a lot of similarities with MFC. You have the choice. The web page says it is unsupported. That does not mean it is worthless (you do not need someone from Microsoft to anwser the phone, or the magical word *yes* on the "supported" column). A small community has formed around WTL, and people (with Nenad at the head of them) have been very responsive with queries exposed on the mailing list. "give it a try, and evaluate it yourself". Finally, WTL has (at least for me) an educational value. It illustrates some points that were not evident to me, as the compile-time binding, or the use of traits classes other that std::char_traits (yes I am still learning). The full source code is included. Executables are generally of smaller size. worthless?? I don't think so, but I respect your opinion. Kind regards, Ramon Casellas

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                  Hello, Documentation... yes I agree it could be far better. However, with the ATL documentation existing in VS .NET (The CWindow and CWindowImpl CDialog and CDialogImpl among others *are* part of ATL which I do not think that is supported by a programmer working half time), and some simple yet welcome documentation efforts (you may cfr the links section on the WTL group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtl), things are getting better. On the otherhand, the source it's quite self-explanatory... once you get the "feeling"... For most basic usage they are wrappers around the SDK (which *is* well documented) and has a lot of similarities with MFC. You have the choice. The web page says it is unsupported. That does not mean it is worthless (you do not need someone from Microsoft to anwser the phone, or the magical word *yes* on the "supported" column). A small community has formed around WTL, and people (with Nenad at the head of them) have been very responsive with queries exposed on the mailing list. "give it a try, and evaluate it yourself". Finally, WTL has (at least for me) an educational value. It illustrates some points that were not evident to me, as the compile-time binding, or the use of traits classes other that std::char_traits (yes I am still learning). The full source code is included. Executables are generally of smaller size. worthless?? I don't think so, but I respect your opinion. Kind regards, Ramon Casellas

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                  Joao Vaz
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                  Ramon, very well said, you illustrated very well the good points WTL :) Ramon Casellas wrote: Finally, WTL has (at least for me) an educational value. It illustrates some points that were not evident to me, as the compile-time binding, or the use of traits classes other that std::char_traits (yes I am still learning). All the points apply to me also :) Great, compact and speedy framework done by a cool guy :-D Definitely WTL 7 + ATL 7 + Future Visual Studio .Net SP1 = marriage on heaven Cheers, Joao Vaz

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                  • L Laurent Kempe

                    On my web site you will find links to documentation: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurent.kempe/technical/wtl/ --- Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.

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                    peterchen
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                    found it now walking through my backlog - great collection! Thanks a lot. BTW. nice lady on you web cam ;)


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                    • P peterchen

                      found it now walking through my backlog - great collection! Thanks a lot. BTW. nice lady on you web cam ;)


                      The earth is not dying. It is being killed.

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                      Laurent Kempe
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                      It was my girlfriend surfing ;-) Laurent Kempé Tech Head --- Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.

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