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  • T Taka Muraoka

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    I write assembly language code. In HEX!!!!

    Hex?! You pussy. You probably use a normal keyboard instead of one like mine[^] :laugh:


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    • E Ed Poore

      Bah, you with your MyXaml, you think too abstractly. I write machine code, onto EEPROMs with a UV laser ;P (or does the UV light erase them, I can never remember :rolleyes:)

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      Ryan Binns
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      Ed.Poore wrote:

      (or does the UV light erase them, I can never remember :rolleyes:)

      Bingo! :)

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I write assembly language code. In HEX!!!! Marc

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        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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        parths
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        :) I read this some time ago: Real Programmers code like this: copy con app.exe

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        • C Colin Angus Mackay

          Christian Graus wrote:

          That's an IDE. It comes with three compilers.

          (1) C++ (2) C# (3) VB.NET (4) J# (at least on my installation) And the express editions only come with one compiler.


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          Christian Graus
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          J# isn't a language. Seriously tho, I thought that through several times, J# wasn't even on my radar. I mean, does anyone actually use it ? ( I offended the lead of the J# team by asking that on the MSDN forums once ) The express editions are not VS2005, at least not in my mind. They are C# EE, VB EE, C++ EE, Web EE.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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          • C Code2326

            So what compiler do you use when you create programs? I'm currently using Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, is that a good choice? Or are there better ones?

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            Gary Kirkham
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            The one that came in the box.

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            • C Code2326

              So what compiler do you use when you create programs? I'm currently using Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, is that a good choice? Or are there better ones?

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              El Corazon
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              Code2326 wrote:

              So what compiler do you use when you create programs?

              Visual C 6.0 or .Net IDE with compiler replaced by Intel optimizing compiler.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                I write assembly language code. In HEX!!!! Marc

                Thyme In The Country

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                Guffa
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                I write assembly language code. In HEX!

                Obviously not. Then you would know that it's not assembly language, it's machine code. ;) Back in the eight bit days I used to write machine code in strings. This is a minimal do-nothing piece of machine code: x=USR(ADR("h`")) It translates into: PLA RTS The PLA instruction (PuLl Ackumulator) pops the number of arguments off the stack. This is of course zero in this case. The RTS instruction (ReTurn from Subroutine) returns to BASIC.

                --- It's amazing to see how much work some people will go through just to avoid a little bit of work.

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I write assembly language code. In HEX!

                  Obviously not. Then you would know that it's not assembly language, it's machine code. ;) Back in the eight bit days I used to write machine code in strings. This is a minimal do-nothing piece of machine code: x=USR(ADR("h`")) It translates into: PLA RTS The PLA instruction (PuLl Ackumulator) pops the number of arguments off the stack. This is of course zero in this case. The RTS instruction (ReTurn from Subroutine) returns to BASIC.

                  --- It's amazing to see how much work some people will go through just to avoid a little bit of work.

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                  Anton Afanasyev
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                  Guffa wrote:

                  Obviously not. Then you would know that it's not assembly language, it's machine code.

                  Didn't you know? Marc is a human compiler. He writes in ASM first (on paper(!!)) and then compiles it (by hand !) and writes that in HEX! And MyXaml....its just his hobby;P :laugh: sorry Marc, I know you're not _that_ geeky


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                  • C Code2326

                    So what compiler do you use when you create programs? I'm currently using Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, is that a good choice? Or are there better ones?

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                    Steve Echols
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                    VC6 but being dragged kicking and screaming into c#/.net/vs2003/2005.


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                    • C Christian Graus

                      J# isn't a language. Seriously tho, I thought that through several times, J# wasn't even on my radar. I mean, does anyone actually use it ? ( I offended the lead of the J# team by asking that on the MSDN forums once ) The express editions are not VS2005, at least not in my mind. They are C# EE, VB EE, C++ EE, Web EE.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                      Tim Craig
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      J# isn't a language.

                      Then that leads to the conclusion that the only language there is C++. :laugh:

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                      • C Code2326

                        So what compiler do you use when you create programs? I'm currently using Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, is that a good choice? Or are there better ones?

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                        Tim Craig
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                        Microchip C18 but lately I've been doing software for a robot.

                        The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                        • C Colin Angus Mackay

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          That's an IDE. It comes with three compilers.

                          (1) C++ (2) C# (3) VB.NET (4) J# (at least on my installation) And the express editions only come with one compiler.


                          Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          (5) F# (on my installation)

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                          • T Tim Craig

                            Microchip C18 but lately I've been doing software for a robot.

                            The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                            Ed Poore
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                            Tim Craig wrote:

                            Microchip C18

                            Ouch! I've used Microchip stuff in the past (ok, mainly their assembler rather than C and it was a tricky b****** too).


                            I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.

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                            • C Code2326

                              So what compiler do you use when you create programs? I'm currently using Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, is that a good choice? Or are there better ones?

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                              Mike Dimmick
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                              For various different projects: Microsoft C 6.0 Visual C++ 1.52c Visual C++ 6.0 Visual Basic 6.0 Visual Studio .NET 2003 (C#, VB.NET, C++) eMbedded Visual C++ 3.0 (ARM compiler) eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 (ARM compiler for CE 4.2, CE 5.0) Visual Studio 2005 (C# 2.0, some C++ for Windows Mobile 5.0 and desktop x86) The choice depends on the project's requirements. We still do some work on DOS-based handhelds, although normally porting to Windows CE or Windows Mobile and then checking that the changes still build correctly for the original unit - that covers C 6.0 and VC++ 1.52. We have an application server written in VB 6.0, and to avoid problems with multiple C++ runtimes loaded in the same process, we build its helper components in VC 6.0.

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                              • T Taka Muraoka

                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                I write assembly language code. In HEX!!!!

                                Hex?! You pussy. You probably use a normal keyboard instead of one like mine[^] :laugh:


                                0 bottles of beer on the wall, 0 bottles of beer, you take 1 down, pass it around, 4294967295 bottles of beer on the wall. Awasu 2.2.4 [^]: A free RSS/Atom feed reader with support for Code Project.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                403. And a haiku?

                                -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                • T Tim Craig

                                  Microchip C18 but lately I've been doing software for a robot.

                                  The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                  Gordon Brandly
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                                  Tim Craig wrote:

                                  Microchip C18

                                  It's such an open-ended question, I was tempted to answer with: B. Knudsen CC8E and see if anyone here would know what I was talking about. After reading your answer, though, I think now maybe at least one person would! :) Actually, my full answer would be more like: C++Builder 5 Visual C++ 6 Visual C++ 7.1 Visual C++ 8 Knudsen CC8E Borland C++ 5.02 ...and a few others, though the ones above are what I use regularly these days.

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                                  • M Mike Dimmick

                                    For various different projects: Microsoft C 6.0 Visual C++ 1.52c Visual C++ 6.0 Visual Basic 6.0 Visual Studio .NET 2003 (C#, VB.NET, C++) eMbedded Visual C++ 3.0 (ARM compiler) eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 (ARM compiler for CE 4.2, CE 5.0) Visual Studio 2005 (C# 2.0, some C++ for Windows Mobile 5.0 and desktop x86) The choice depends on the project's requirements. We still do some work on DOS-based handhelds, although normally porting to Windows CE or Windows Mobile and then checking that the changes still build correctly for the original unit - that covers C 6.0 and VC++ 1.52. We have an application server written in VB 6.0, and to avoid problems with multiple C++ runtimes loaded in the same process, we build its helper components in VC 6.0.

                                    Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                    Gordon Brandly
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                                    Mike Dimmick wrote:

                                    Visual C++ 1.52c

                                    We have a copy of that around here, but I don't think anyone has ever used it. I use Borland C++ 5.02 for our embedded-DOS equipment, because I've always liked its IDE and decent 16-bit compiler. On the other hand, I've just started using the Visual C++ 2003 and 2005 IDEs regularly a couple of months ago, and now I must say I'm pretty spoiled. I've even gone to the trouble of figuring out how to get my microcontroller C code (using the Knudsen CC8E compiler) to build in Visual Studio 2005, just to get the Intellisense Advantage (tm?). Nice!!!! (I'm too old to say "Sweet!", but don't want to properly date myself by saying "Far out!".)

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                                    • E Ed Poore

                                      Tim Craig wrote:

                                      Microchip C18

                                      Ouch! I've used Microchip stuff in the past (ok, mainly their assembler rather than C and it was a tricky b****** too).


                                      I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.

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                                      Tim Craig
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                                      Ed.Poore wrote:

                                      Ouch! I've used Microchip stuff in the past (ok, mainly their assembler rather than C and it was a tricky b****** too).

                                      It hasn't been too bad. The compiler handles a lot of the nasty things like dealing with paging of memory. I didn't have any choice in the matter. I coach a FIRST high school robotics team and that's what we're given. The biggest hassle was just dropping back to C from C++ and whining why can't I do that. :sigh: The worst part was this season when they switched to an 18F8722 chip for the controller which had a bunch of silicon errors in the interrupt system and timers. Even with the fixes my code never ran right although it was fine on an older 8520 chip.

                                      The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                        Tim Craig wrote:

                                        Microchip C18

                                        It's such an open-ended question, I was tempted to answer with: B. Knudsen CC8E and see if anyone here would know what I was talking about. After reading your answer, though, I think now maybe at least one person would! :) Actually, my full answer would be more like: C++Builder 5 Visual C++ 6 Visual C++ 7.1 Visual C++ 8 Knudsen CC8E Borland C++ 5.02 ...and a few others, though the ones above are what I use regularly these days.

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                                        Tim Craig
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                                        Yeah, I decided to play smart ass since he was expecting a bunch of compilers for Windows. I do have Visual C++ installed but that would be such a ho-hum answer and I rarely use it since I retired.

                                        The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                        • T Tim Craig

                                          Ed.Poore wrote:

                                          Ouch! I've used Microchip stuff in the past (ok, mainly their assembler rather than C and it was a tricky b****** too).

                                          It hasn't been too bad. The compiler handles a lot of the nasty things like dealing with paging of memory. I didn't have any choice in the matter. I coach a FIRST high school robotics team and that's what we're given. The biggest hassle was just dropping back to C from C++ and whining why can't I do that. :sigh: The worst part was this season when they switched to an 18F8722 chip for the controller which had a bunch of silicon errors in the interrupt system and timers. Even with the fixes my code never ran right although it was fine on an older 8520 chip.

                                          The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                                          Ed Poore
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                                          Tim Craig wrote:

                                          what we're given

                                          That always seems to be the way with Microchip, you never choose them but are always given PICs to work with. :rolleyes:


                                          I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.

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