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First off, Merry Christmas ladies and gents! If you are religious then grats on a special day. If you are not religious then Happy Holidays and enjoy the downhill slide (make it a doozey) into the New Year! (There's no digs in any of that. I mean good things to everyone.:rose:) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... Since I have your attention. I'd like to ask opinions. I'm writing up my experiences on Jamaica to be posted on the site that is almost done enough to at least be functional. I tend to be long on words and I thought to get your opinions. Should I keep going with the current style or should I tighten up the ranks and make it lean and mean? This is my first draft and it's so rough as to make a hurricane look like a spring storm. I'm more interested in knowing if I lose your interest because of length or if I keep it because of the (hopefully not to deep) details. So here you go... (It's long, sorry but I'm seeking peer review but not grammar or that other stuff. Just want to know how it reads.) Negril, Jamaica - 2006 It's fitting and appropriate that I sit here in snow covered Idaho at the end of December and write about the recent trip my wife and I took to Jamaica with some close friends. This trip was a first for me in so many ways. I've never traveled east of Idaho. I've not had an air flight longer than 1 hour and 10 minutes. I've never experienced 80% to 90% humidity. I've never been to a 3rd world country. I've never been so moved by any place or people in my life as I was by Jamaica and the people that call it home. So as you read through this account keep in mind that many things are a first for me and that will be my perspective as I move through each experience. We left Boise, ID on the afternoon of December 6th with our final destination for the day being Memphis Tennessee. For me this first leg of travel was surreal and I found myself sitting in silence many times reflecting on the fact I was about to leave the only city I’d ever known as home and begin a trip that would not only take me out of the country but to a place where the heat and humidity together would be like nothing I’d ever experienced. Both fortunately and unfortunately my lack of experience in the world outside of the U.S. and my lack of travel inside the U.S. had me pondering such insignificant things like temperature and humidity. The departure from Boise and the arrival in Memphis went off without a hitch. We arrived in Memphis and learned we were only 15 minutes from Gr
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First off, Merry Christmas ladies and gents! If you are religious then grats on a special day. If you are not religious then Happy Holidays and enjoy the downhill slide (make it a doozey) into the New Year! (There's no digs in any of that. I mean good things to everyone.:rose:) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... Since I have your attention. I'd like to ask opinions. I'm writing up my experiences on Jamaica to be posted on the site that is almost done enough to at least be functional. I tend to be long on words and I thought to get your opinions. Should I keep going with the current style or should I tighten up the ranks and make it lean and mean? This is my first draft and it's so rough as to make a hurricane look like a spring storm. I'm more interested in knowing if I lose your interest because of length or if I keep it because of the (hopefully not to deep) details. So here you go... (It's long, sorry but I'm seeking peer review but not grammar or that other stuff. Just want to know how it reads.) Negril, Jamaica - 2006 It's fitting and appropriate that I sit here in snow covered Idaho at the end of December and write about the recent trip my wife and I took to Jamaica with some close friends. This trip was a first for me in so many ways. I've never traveled east of Idaho. I've not had an air flight longer than 1 hour and 10 minutes. I've never experienced 80% to 90% humidity. I've never been to a 3rd world country. I've never been so moved by any place or people in my life as I was by Jamaica and the people that call it home. So as you read through this account keep in mind that many things are a first for me and that will be my perspective as I move through each experience. We left Boise, ID on the afternoon of December 6th with our final destination for the day being Memphis Tennessee. For me this first leg of travel was surreal and I found myself sitting in silence many times reflecting on the fact I was about to leave the only city I’d ever known as home and begin a trip that would not only take me out of the country but to a place where the heat and humidity together would be like nothing I’d ever experienced. Both fortunately and unfortunately my lack of experience in the world outside of the U.S. and my lack of travel inside the U.S. had me pondering such insignificant things like temperature and humidity. The departure from Boise and the arrival in Memphis went off without a hitch. We arrived in Memphis and learned we were only 15 minutes from Gr
it will take me a few days to read this and since it is 4am here at the moment, I will start tomorrow. no really. ;) liked the first one-third, will have to copy-paste it into a text editor if I want to read the whole thing(whenever you decide to post it please make it a multi-page article, that way the reader does not give up just by looking at the scroll bar, but reads it for the content).
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First off, Merry Christmas ladies and gents! If you are religious then grats on a special day. If you are not religious then Happy Holidays and enjoy the downhill slide (make it a doozey) into the New Year! (There's no digs in any of that. I mean good things to everyone.:rose:) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... Since I have your attention. I'd like to ask opinions. I'm writing up my experiences on Jamaica to be posted on the site that is almost done enough to at least be functional. I tend to be long on words and I thought to get your opinions. Should I keep going with the current style or should I tighten up the ranks and make it lean and mean? This is my first draft and it's so rough as to make a hurricane look like a spring storm. I'm more interested in knowing if I lose your interest because of length or if I keep it because of the (hopefully not to deep) details. So here you go... (It's long, sorry but I'm seeking peer review but not grammar or that other stuff. Just want to know how it reads.) Negril, Jamaica - 2006 It's fitting and appropriate that I sit here in snow covered Idaho at the end of December and write about the recent trip my wife and I took to Jamaica with some close friends. This trip was a first for me in so many ways. I've never traveled east of Idaho. I've not had an air flight longer than 1 hour and 10 minutes. I've never experienced 80% to 90% humidity. I've never been to a 3rd world country. I've never been so moved by any place or people in my life as I was by Jamaica and the people that call it home. So as you read through this account keep in mind that many things are a first for me and that will be my perspective as I move through each experience. We left Boise, ID on the afternoon of December 6th with our final destination for the day being Memphis Tennessee. For me this first leg of travel was surreal and I found myself sitting in silence many times reflecting on the fact I was about to leave the only city I’d ever known as home and begin a trip that would not only take me out of the country but to a place where the heat and humidity together would be like nothing I’d ever experienced. Both fortunately and unfortunately my lack of experience in the world outside of the U.S. and my lack of travel inside the U.S. had me pondering such insignificant things like temperature and humidity. The departure from Boise and the arrival in Memphis went off without a hitch. We arrived in Memphis and learned we were only 15 minutes from Gr
Personally, I really like your writing style. I like that you talk about how you feel. Too much writing nowadays is "just the facts, Ma'am". In general though, to answer your question, who do you anticipate your audience to be? Are you writing for yourself, your family, or total strangers? A combination of all of the above? If you're an experienced an trained writer, you can tailor your writing to your intended audience, and you can have an editor help you with that process as well. But that advice is for people who want to be on the NYT's best seller's list and maybe a get a movie out of their book. Personally, I'd do the Asimov style of writing--just write it; the first draft is the last. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
First off, Merry Christmas ladies and gents! If you are religious then grats on a special day. If you are not religious then Happy Holidays and enjoy the downhill slide (make it a doozey) into the New Year! (There's no digs in any of that. I mean good things to everyone.:rose:) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... Since I have your attention. I'd like to ask opinions. I'm writing up my experiences on Jamaica to be posted on the site that is almost done enough to at least be functional. I tend to be long on words and I thought to get your opinions. Should I keep going with the current style or should I tighten up the ranks and make it lean and mean? This is my first draft and it's so rough as to make a hurricane look like a spring storm. I'm more interested in knowing if I lose your interest because of length or if I keep it because of the (hopefully not to deep) details. So here you go... (It's long, sorry but I'm seeking peer review but not grammar or that other stuff. Just want to know how it reads.) Negril, Jamaica - 2006 It's fitting and appropriate that I sit here in snow covered Idaho at the end of December and write about the recent trip my wife and I took to Jamaica with some close friends. This trip was a first for me in so many ways. I've never traveled east of Idaho. I've not had an air flight longer than 1 hour and 10 minutes. I've never experienced 80% to 90% humidity. I've never been to a 3rd world country. I've never been so moved by any place or people in my life as I was by Jamaica and the people that call it home. So as you read through this account keep in mind that many things are a first for me and that will be my perspective as I move through each experience. We left Boise, ID on the afternoon of December 6th with our final destination for the day being Memphis Tennessee. For me this first leg of travel was surreal and I found myself sitting in silence many times reflecting on the fact I was about to leave the only city I’d ever known as home and begin a trip that would not only take me out of the country but to a place where the heat and humidity together would be like nothing I’d ever experienced. Both fortunately and unfortunately my lack of experience in the world outside of the U.S. and my lack of travel inside the U.S. had me pondering such insignificant things like temperature and humidity. The departure from Boise and the arrival in Memphis went off without a hitch. We arrived in Memphis and learned we were only 15 minutes from Gr
Nice going Rex - looking forward to hearing more (and happy holidays to you and the tribe) I think its fascinating listening to tails from people who travel for the first time - we skipped through many countries when I was a kid (NZ -> UK by boat, UK -> Kenya, Kenya -> Aus -> NZ, NZ -> AUS etc), so we became accustomed to travel & different peoples early ... It will also be interesting to hear more about what you think about the poverty over there vs your own standard of living 'g'
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First off, Merry Christmas ladies and gents! If you are religious then grats on a special day. If you are not religious then Happy Holidays and enjoy the downhill slide (make it a doozey) into the New Year! (There's no digs in any of that. I mean good things to everyone.:rose:) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... Since I have your attention. I'd like to ask opinions. I'm writing up my experiences on Jamaica to be posted on the site that is almost done enough to at least be functional. I tend to be long on words and I thought to get your opinions. Should I keep going with the current style or should I tighten up the ranks and make it lean and mean? This is my first draft and it's so rough as to make a hurricane look like a spring storm. I'm more interested in knowing if I lose your interest because of length or if I keep it because of the (hopefully not to deep) details. So here you go... (It's long, sorry but I'm seeking peer review but not grammar or that other stuff. Just want to know how it reads.) Negril, Jamaica - 2006 It's fitting and appropriate that I sit here in snow covered Idaho at the end of December and write about the recent trip my wife and I took to Jamaica with some close friends. This trip was a first for me in so many ways. I've never traveled east of Idaho. I've not had an air flight longer than 1 hour and 10 minutes. I've never experienced 80% to 90% humidity. I've never been to a 3rd world country. I've never been so moved by any place or people in my life as I was by Jamaica and the people that call it home. So as you read through this account keep in mind that many things are a first for me and that will be my perspective as I move through each experience. We left Boise, ID on the afternoon of December 6th with our final destination for the day being Memphis Tennessee. For me this first leg of travel was surreal and I found myself sitting in silence many times reflecting on the fact I was about to leave the only city I’d ever known as home and begin a trip that would not only take me out of the country but to a place where the heat and humidity together would be like nothing I’d ever experienced. Both fortunately and unfortunately my lack of experience in the world outside of the U.S. and my lack of travel inside the U.S. had me pondering such insignificant things like temperature and humidity. The departure from Boise and the arrival in Memphis went off without a hitch. We arrived in Memphis and learned we were only 15 minutes from Gr
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Amusing, in a sort of kindergarten way. ;P Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
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Yup, you are well on your way to become a super programmer. :rolleyes:
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I agree with you that my argument is useless. [Red Stateler] Hey, I am part of a special bread, we are called smart people [Captain See Sharp] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
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Yup, you are well on your way to become a super programmer. :rolleyes:
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I agree with you that my argument is useless. [Red Stateler] Hey, I am part of a special bread, we are called smart people [Captain See Sharp] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
He's probably better off going back to burger flipping
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So I asked for comments regarding the writing. If you like it great. If you don't like it what would you change? Your response indicates you are a *very* long ways from being an adult. It also indicates you are much farther away from "super coder" than you might think. The very best programmers I know are extremely patient people that will read documents several times and several ways to make sure they understand what is being asked. They carefully measure each line of their response against the requesting document to be sure it's consistent and is well bounded to the requirements set forth in the requesting document. I've read a lot of your posts here and I've come to a single conclusion. You are ! CaptainCSharp and you lack a lot of experience and social skill necessary to be succesful as a developer and well received on a public message board. I cannot tell you how much work I receive from my presence on exactly two programming related message boards but I'll say it's more than 50% of my revenue for any given year and it's helping me to pay off mountains of debt accrued by keeping a very sick child alive. You want respect? It was given when you registered. You're now losing respect your peers gave you without you having to do a thing. The funny thing about respect is that in most cases it's easily given and easily lost. The beauty of respect is that once lost it's very hard to earn back. You might want to consider this in your slow advancement out of adolescence and into adult maturity. It's a lesson some never truly understand and your beginning to add your name to their ranks. - Rex
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So I asked for comments regarding the writing. If you like it great. If you don't like it what would you change? Your response indicates you are a *very* long ways from being an adult. It also indicates you are much farther away from "super coder" than you might think. The very best programmers I know are extremely patient people that will read documents several times and several ways to make sure they understand what is being asked. They carefully measure each line of their response against the requesting document to be sure it's consistent and is well bounded to the requirements set forth in the requesting document. I've read a lot of your posts here and I've come to a single conclusion. You are ! CaptainCSharp and you lack a lot of experience and social skill necessary to be succesful as a developer and well received on a public message board. I cannot tell you how much work I receive from my presence on exactly two programming related message boards but I'll say it's more than 50% of my revenue for any given year and it's helping me to pay off mountains of debt accrued by keeping a very sick child alive. You want respect? It was given when you registered. You're now losing respect your peers gave you without you having to do a thing. The funny thing about respect is that in most cases it's easily given and easily lost. The beauty of respect is that once lost it's very hard to earn back. You might want to consider this in your slow advancement out of adolescence and into adult maturity. It's a lesson some never truly understand and your beginning to add your name to their ranks. - Rex
People with no sense of humor are huge downers. I'm sure you know this but that message I posted was a (uue encoded) zip file containing a text file with your message. It was long, I decreased the size of it by 40%. It was a joke.
code-frog wrote:
I've read a lot of your posts here and I've come to a single conclusion. You are ! CaptainCSharp and you lack a lot of experience and social skill necessary to be succesful as a developer and well received on a public message board.
I come here to to ask questions, read messages and articles, and entertain myself. I'm not here to impress!
code-frog wrote:
You want respect? It was given when you registered. You're now losing respect your peers gave you without you having to do a thing. The funny thing about respect is that in most cases it's easily given and easily lost. The beauty of respect is that once lost it's very hard to earn back. You might want to consider this in your slow advancement out of adolescence and into adult maturity. It's a lesson some never truly understand and your beginning to add your name to their ranks.
I lost every bit of respect before, it does not bug me that much. It does bug me when I work hard to produce a program to submit here and it gets looked down upon because it carries the name C.S.S or Henize. I have three more programs to be submitted that I have worked very hard to make them the highest quality software I can write at the moment. I may be young, but I ain't no kid and I didn't just start programming a month ago or even a year ago. I have been programming for many years, I started young. I am confident in my skills but I know I have a ton to learn but I am well grounded in my skills and knowledge. I am not a drone and I have a healthy since of humor, obviously you don't. Get bent.
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People with no sense of humor are huge downers. I'm sure you know this but that message I posted was a (uue encoded) zip file containing a text file with your message. It was long, I decreased the size of it by 40%. It was a joke.
code-frog wrote:
I've read a lot of your posts here and I've come to a single conclusion. You are ! CaptainCSharp and you lack a lot of experience and social skill necessary to be succesful as a developer and well received on a public message board.
I come here to to ask questions, read messages and articles, and entertain myself. I'm not here to impress!
code-frog wrote:
You want respect? It was given when you registered. You're now losing respect your peers gave you without you having to do a thing. The funny thing about respect is that in most cases it's easily given and easily lost. The beauty of respect is that once lost it's very hard to earn back. You might want to consider this in your slow advancement out of adolescence and into adult maturity. It's a lesson some never truly understand and your beginning to add your name to their ranks.
I lost every bit of respect before, it does not bug me that much. It does bug me when I work hard to produce a program to submit here and it gets looked down upon because it carries the name C.S.S or Henize. I have three more programs to be submitted that I have worked very hard to make them the highest quality software I can write at the moment. I may be young, but I ain't no kid and I didn't just start programming a month ago or even a year ago. I have been programming for many years, I started young. I am confident in my skills but I know I have a ton to learn but I am well grounded in my skills and knowledge. I am not a drone and I have a healthy since of humor, obviously you don't. Get bent.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
It was a joke.
Talking about yourself again, I see. Oh, by the way, try using the joke icon the next time you even attempt to post a joke.
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I agree with you that my argument is useless. [Red Stateler] Hey, I am part of a special bread, we are called smart people [Captain See Sharp] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
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People with no sense of humor are huge downers. I'm sure you know this but that message I posted was a (uue encoded) zip file containing a text file with your message. It was long, I decreased the size of it by 40%. It was a joke.
code-frog wrote:
I've read a lot of your posts here and I've come to a single conclusion. You are ! CaptainCSharp and you lack a lot of experience and social skill necessary to be succesful as a developer and well received on a public message board.
I come here to to ask questions, read messages and articles, and entertain myself. I'm not here to impress!
code-frog wrote:
You want respect? It was given when you registered. You're now losing respect your peers gave you without you having to do a thing. The funny thing about respect is that in most cases it's easily given and easily lost. The beauty of respect is that once lost it's very hard to earn back. You might want to consider this in your slow advancement out of adolescence and into adult maturity. It's a lesson some never truly understand and your beginning to add your name to their ranks.
I lost every bit of respect before, it does not bug me that much. It does bug me when I work hard to produce a program to submit here and it gets looked down upon because it carries the name C.S.S or Henize. I have three more programs to be submitted that I have worked very hard to make them the highest quality software I can write at the moment. I may be young, but I ain't no kid and I didn't just start programming a month ago or even a year ago. I have been programming for many years, I started young. I am confident in my skills but I know I have a ton to learn but I am well grounded in my skills and knowledge. I am not a drone and I have a healthy since of humor, obviously you don't. Get bent.
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If it was a joke that's cool and I'm fine with that. HINT: ;P:laugh::-D:):rolleyes: all tend to help people understand when you are having fun. I'm actually glad you claim you are not here to impress but a nick of Captain See Sharp implies you are at least impressed with yourself. Now don't take that wrong. But that's about all I had to go on from your reply so that's what I used. I don't mind your nick at all so this isn't an attack on it. It's to bad you did things to rob you of respect. Maybe you learned something from it and maybe not. I never got real involved in the Henize stuff but apparently he made a lot of people mad. Not sure how my guess would be in it was in the soapbox a place I just don't go. I actually have more of a sense of humor than probably even you do. I find mirth in a lot of things I've learned to find humor in things that have even kicked my teeth in (metaphorically speaking). It's very hard to find humor in something that is just text on a page. No facial expressions, no indicator at all of what you might have been thinking. Hard to see humor in that and I really don't think I or the rest of the responses to your post were wrong to speak how we did. Alas, telling me to get bent? Come now. If you think that did anything other than make you look foolish on the internet keep guessing but on someone else's time. As a rule I try to treat everyone with respect. I've never voted down your articles or your post for that matter. I don't really have an issue with you at all except in 2 cases now. You attempt to disguise an insult in undocumented humor and you tell me to get bent. These two things I will forget and move on from but I wonder if perhaps you might learn a thing or 2 by them. I can only hope. I sincerely wish you well.:rose: - Rex