programming == quantum physics ?
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Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
Brent Lamborn wrote:
So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?
Phhht! Everyone knows that Dr. Who invented Time Travel.
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Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
If a program control the time in the Universe. Then a multithread programm control the time at the Multiverse? :doh:.
-- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.
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Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
Brent Lamborn wrote:
the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process.
And like time travel, there's a paradox: while we enable countless things to get done quicker, we seem to have less and less time to get the things done that we truly want to get done. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
Thanks for the responses and for confirming my suspicions that yes, I am indeed strange. :-D Somehow I manage to only post on CP about once every couple months, and when I do; my weird side comes out.
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
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Time is an illusion anyway so we can pretty much travel however we imagine ourselves to do so "in" it.
Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.:)
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Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
You said "I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?" :sigh: No that does NOT mean we invent time travel - assuming you mean traveling along the time dimension is something other than forward at exactly 1 sec forward per second of elapsed time. Your statement would be related, but the exactly the same, as saying if I the distance between New York and Paris is XXX miles, but I travel in a super-sonic jet - did we invent/enable teleportation. Again no - we did not teleport, we traveled along 3 space dimensions at a faster rate ( that is we traveled a shorter distance along the time dimension );)
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You said "I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?" :sigh: No that does NOT mean we invent time travel - assuming you mean traveling along the time dimension is something other than forward at exactly 1 sec forward per second of elapsed time. Your statement would be related, but the exactly the same, as saying if I the distance between New York and Paris is XXX miles, but I travel in a super-sonic jet - did we invent/enable teleportation. Again no - we did not teleport, we traveled along 3 space dimensions at a faster rate ( that is we traveled a shorter distance along the time dimension );)
pgorbas wrote:
No that does NOT mean we invent time travel
And here I am thinking I'm Christopher Lloyd in Back to The Future...you ruined my life! :laugh::laugh:
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
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Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.:)
gnarly
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
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Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.:)
pgorbas wrote:
Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.
Sure, but perhaps our perception of time can be regarded as an illusion. When we perceive something as taking a 'long' or 'short' period of time, those are relative measures. For example, since a computer can do a huge batch of conscious jobs in the blink of one of our eyes (although I'm sure our brains do much more complicated work in parallel), when we anthropomorphically imagine computers as if they were people (!), usually the first thing that comes to mind would be "man, if it was sentient, it would get so bored in between my fingers hitting the keys" or something. If we could 'think faster' and so forth, then our perception of time would be different. Like the saying "time flies when you're having fun"...
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Brent Lamborn wrote:
So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?
Phhht! Everyone knows that Dr. Who invented Time Travel.
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Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
Yes, I also think of myself as a time traveler! Unfortunately, for the last 47 years its all been in the same direction. I've tried putting a rewind button into my applications to overcome this but, it cancels its own event and the rest of the code never executes, still working on this.
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Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~
"Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.
I have a vague memory of a study by Freidman (the psychiatrist not the economist) who claimed that many programmers achieved a trance like state when working, I suspect that is the nearest we can get to time travel. The study was conducted in the 60's or 70's - or perhaps it was the acid on which we were all alleged to be tripping. rgds pjd