Best OS of all time - well there's a surprise!
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I can't believe that nobody said GEOS[^] because it was indeed awesome.
Christopher S. 'coldacid' Charabaruk E-mail: chris at coldacid dot ent Web: http://coldacid.net/
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You're having a laugh the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had! But the best was clearly the OS on the Acorn RISC OS - beautiful, functional and easy to program!
NRobbins wrote:
the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had!
Eh? Them's fightin' words :) You can back those up? Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm? Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os? Did it have a cool name like "Intuition"? I dunno. Maybe it was better, but i migrated from c64 asm to amiga c. And i spent a looooong time gettin comfy on that os. (till it died.) I still miss that ole amiga. built my first midi sequencer on the thing :) ...Steve
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NRobbins wrote:
the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had!
Eh? Them's fightin' words :) You can back those up? Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm? Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os? Did it have a cool name like "Intuition"? I dunno. Maybe it was better, but i migrated from c64 asm to amiga c. And i spent a looooong time gettin comfy on that os. (till it died.) I still miss that ole amiga. built my first midi sequencer on the thing :) ...Steve
Steve Hazel wrote:
Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm?
Sure, it had Pure C, Lattice C, HiSoft C? and the free Sozobon C compiler, which was pretty good (produced small enough code too!).
Steve Hazel wrote:
Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os?
Well, kinda. Wasn't the Amiga OS loaded off disk, rather than ROM like the ST's TOS and GEM gui layer? This means they could keep releasing better versions of Kickstart, whereas TOS updates were much less frequent. I did find the Amiga's GUI and unix-style commandline functionality with pipes etc really impressive, but only after spending my teenage life working in GEM :)
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Steve Hazel wrote:
Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm?
Sure, it had Pure C, Lattice C, HiSoft C? and the free Sozobon C compiler, which was pretty good (produced small enough code too!).
Steve Hazel wrote:
Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os?
Well, kinda. Wasn't the Amiga OS loaded off disk, rather than ROM like the ST's TOS and GEM gui layer? This means they could keep releasing better versions of Kickstart, whereas TOS updates were much less frequent. I did find the Amiga's GUI and unix-style commandline functionality with pipes etc really impressive, but only after spending my teenage life working in GEM :)
destynova wrote:
but only after spending my teenage life working in GEM
Well, then... that's all good mah bruh THAH from anothah mothAH...:) I'm still workin on that midi sequencer I started way back then, too http://shazware.com/ditty[^] And I still use the text editor I wrote back on the C64 in 6502 asm (ported to C++/windows) for editing my code TO THIS DAY. (But probably nobody else could love that text editor but me) I can write code as fast (if not faster) than the next guy with it :) http://shazware.com/shaz/ned.html[^] Ok. Sorry to go off like that...:~ But you got me thinkin bout them good ole daze... How did i get to be 42 ?? And how did my daughter turn into a high school student so fast ?? In the immortal words of Charlie Brown... AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH !!! ...Steve
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destynova wrote:
but only after spending my teenage life working in GEM
Well, then... that's all good mah bruh THAH from anothah mothAH...:) I'm still workin on that midi sequencer I started way back then, too http://shazware.com/ditty[^] And I still use the text editor I wrote back on the C64 in 6502 asm (ported to C++/windows) for editing my code TO THIS DAY. (But probably nobody else could love that text editor but me) I can write code as fast (if not faster) than the next guy with it :) http://shazware.com/shaz/ned.html[^] Ok. Sorry to go off like that...:~ But you got me thinkin bout them good ole daze... How did i get to be 42 ?? And how did my daughter turn into a high school student so fast ?? In the immortal words of Charlie Brown... AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH !!! ...Steve
Steve Hazel wrote:
Ok. Sorry to go off like that... But you got me thinkin bout them good ole daze...
Wow, I remember chatting briefly to you about your MIDI editor, Ditty, maybe 7 years ago or so. I'll admit I haven't tried it since then though.
Steve Hazel wrote:
And I still use the text editor I wrote back on the C64 in 6502 asm (ported to C++/windows) for editing my code TO THIS DAY.
Anything but the working on the C64's BASIC interpreter... that was an awful environment, and an awful BASIC implementation too really. I wonder if anyone else remembers GFA Basic on the Atari ST... *rambles*
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The best ever OS .... has to be GEORGE3, it was at least 2 generations ahead of its contemporaries. It had Virtual Memory and Virtual Filestore and sophisticated workload scheduling, the OS ran the operators and some very large businesses.... and that was back in the 1960's when things were measured in K's not M's and G's were never even dreamt of and tape was king because no one could afford those new-fangled little disc things (which weighed in at about 32lbs a piece). But it wasn't American and went the way of the British Empire. On Virtual Memory.... when IBM 'invented' it for OS360 they ran an ad .... "Tomorrow came Today to which ICL responded with a similar ad "No, Tomorrow came Yesterday".
Mewing wrote:
The best ever OS .... has to be GEORGE3, it was at least 2 generations ahead of its contemporaries. But it wasn't American and went the way of the British Empire.
Well, it probably wasn't too god: "George III became deranged, posing a threat to his own life..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George\_III\_of\_the\_United\_Kingdom) :rolleyes:
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