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  • D Dario Solera

    Both.

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    Nemanja Trifunovic
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    Strange. MS has dropped many technologies in the past, making tons of working code obsolete. Remember ActiveX Documents, VB3, VB6, Managed extensions for C++? On the other hand, you can recompile Java 1.0 code with Java 5.0 JDK without problems AFAIK. Sure, you'll get many "deprecated" warnings, but that's about it.


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    • M Matt Newman

      I am sitting in a Data Structures class right now and it seems like every day the professor manages to bring up some new miracle feature that is new in version 5 or 6 and how its so new and gonna save the day blah blah blah. I'm sitting here wanting to scream out that all of these features existed in the first version of .NET. [Update]We are talking about ackerman's function again... nothing to do with data structures...:sigh: [/Update]

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      Never used it, but from what I see of it... I ended up with 4 separate versions of it on my system (1.4.2, 1.4.5, 1.5.0a, 1.5.0c or something) It was the slowest thing I've ever seen (running Limewire - how can it take so long to simply initalise a dialog box! And the window painting was intolerable). The files are all over the place, it has no content management (going back to the 4 versions of it) which reminds me of Python - each program that runs it has its own DLL for it - why not have a global one? :sigh: The long roundabout way you have to go to download the runtimes (website, through about 20 pages then downloading it for six hours). I could probably come up with more if I used it, but I doubt I will.

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      • M Matt Newman

        Oh god, don't get me started on JSP... bad memories. [Damn, cp put this one in the wrong spot] -- modified at 11:36 Wednesday 14th February, 2007

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        Paul Watson
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        It is my current nightmare. Using it alongside a Rails app and JSP completely and utterly sucks.

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        • M Matt Newman

          I am sitting in a Data Structures class right now and it seems like every day the professor manages to bring up some new miracle feature that is new in version 5 or 6 and how its so new and gonna save the day blah blah blah. I'm sitting here wanting to scream out that all of these features existed in the first version of .NET. [Update]We are talking about ackerman's function again... nothing to do with data structures...:sigh: [/Update]

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          toxcct
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          wait, you DON'T dislike Java, you dislike your Teacher ! :->


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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            Java (the language) is a joke. However, the framework is pretty big and rich, and when used from a good language like Scala[^], it surely looks like good platform for some applications. Also, I like the fact that Sun stubornly sticks to backward compatibility with new versions of Java. MS is way too much relaxed in this matter, IMHO.


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            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

            Java (the language) is a joke

            why ? they copied C# ? :~


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            • M Matt Newman

              Oh god, don't get me started on JSP... bad memories. [Damn, cp put this one in the wrong spot] -- modified at 11:36 Wednesday 14th February, 2007

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              JSP is ok, Struts is nightmare ! :rolleyes:


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                wait, you DON'T dislike Java, you dislike your Teacher ! :->


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                No, I like the teacher (nice guy), I dislike java

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                • M Matt Newman

                  No, I like the teacher (nice guy), I dislike java

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                  it's amazing how many guys spit on java while loving .NET. that's paradoxal nonsense


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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Java (the language) is a joke. However, the framework is pretty big and rich, and when used from a good language like Scala[^], it surely looks like good platform for some applications. Also, I like the fact that Sun stubornly sticks to backward compatibility with new versions of Java. MS is way too much relaxed in this matter, IMHO.


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                    Paul Brower
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                    How can you say the java 'language' pretty much sucks? Java is almost identical to c#. I've been using java for over 6 months now (for web apps). I still do windows apps in c#, however I have found it is a very easy and smooth transition to work between java and c#.

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                      it's amazing how many guys spit on java while loving .NET. that's paradoxal nonsense


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                      Rob Graham
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                      toxcct wrote:

                      t's amazing how many guys spit on java while loving .NET.

                      It's all about "throws":-D

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                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                        Judah Himango wrote:

                        MS is way too comitted to back compat, IMO

                        Would you dare telling it to any VB6 programmer?


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                        Judah Gabriel Himango
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                        What, are you saying VB6 apps don't run anymore?

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                        • M Matt Newman

                          I am sitting in a Data Structures class right now and it seems like every day the professor manages to bring up some new miracle feature that is new in version 5 or 6 and how its so new and gonna save the day blah blah blah. I'm sitting here wanting to scream out that all of these features existed in the first version of .NET. [Update]We are talking about ackerman's function again... nothing to do with data structures...:sigh: [/Update]

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                          Tim Craig
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                          Java and C# are both toy languages that are some software marketing exec's wet dream. We'd be way ahead if they'd just put some effort into giving us decent C++ libraries.

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