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  • E El Corazon

    jason_lakewhitney wrote:

    I hear someone in trouble...Here comes Google yepe

    I don't like trying to predict his thoughts, but I expect, since the subject of music has come up many times, that he was hoping someone at CP had experience and favorites. Google produces many options, but always unclear what is best. User experience can cut down that evaluation time significantly. :-D

    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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    lost in transition
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    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

    User experience can cut down that evaluation time significantly.

    Yes, I know. I was just joking around:-D, if you recall I did give my user experience. Unfortunatly, I was unable to remember the names of the software I used over 10 years ago.:confused: It is hard at times to understand what some people are meaning when they post a thought, mainly because you can not see their face or hear their voice. Not to worry, I took you comment as only making a point, me too. God Bless, Jason

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    • H hairy_hats

      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      I use Sibelius[^] a lot.

      I remember the happy days when Sibelius was first developed under RiscOS, and people were buying Acorns just to run it on... *sigh* :sigh: It was a knockout app then, sounds like it's only improved.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Steve_Harris wrote:

      I remember the happy days when Sibelius was first developed under RiscOS,

      RiscOS - that's a blast from the past.

      Steve_Harris wrote:

      It was a knockout app then, sounds like it's only improved.

      I couldn't agree more. Yes, it costs a little bit more than some of the competition, but it is definitely worth the extra.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        My son needs to write down some of his violin compositions, and while he's done it on paper, he needs the ability to fiddle (no pun intended) with the timing, etc. Any recommendations for a program that lets you enter musical notation and perhaps play it via midi/built in audio? Thanks! Marc

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        J Dunlap
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        There's Sibelius and Finale, as others have mentioned, but they're expensive. MagicScore[^] is a cheap one ($50) that has a lot of nice features and is easy to work with.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          My son needs to write down some of his violin compositions, and while he's done it on paper, he needs the ability to fiddle (no pun intended) with the timing, etc. Any recommendations for a program that lets you enter musical notation and perhaps play it via midi/built in audio? Thanks! Marc

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          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Fernando A Gomez F
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          Here are some ideas. [^] :cool:

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          • M Marc Clifton

            My son needs to write down some of his violin compositions, and while he's done it on paper, he needs the ability to fiddle (no pun intended) with the timing, etc. Any recommendations for a program that lets you enter musical notation and perhaps play it via midi/built in audio? Thanks! Marc

            Thyme In The Country
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            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            Ed Poore
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            I vote as well for Sibelius, you can get an educational discount as well now.  Can't remember the details but Google for them.

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            • D Dan Neely

              My sister's a voice major, and my brother intends to major in sax performance. She endorses Finale, he prefers Sibelius.

              -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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              Sebastian Schneider
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              I am really curious (no pun or offense intended, I am asking in earnest), how hard is it to get a permanent, full-time job in the music business (not as in "Universal" and "Sony", but as in "orchestra" or "theatre")? I heard the competition is quite hard, and that it is very difficult to find something suitable.

              Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Steve_Harris wrote:

                I remember the happy days when Sibelius was first developed under RiscOS,

                RiscOS - that's a blast from the past.

                Steve_Harris wrote:

                It was a knockout app then, sounds like it's only improved.

                I couldn't agree more. Yes, it costs a little bit more than some of the competition, but it is definitely worth the extra.

                the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                hairy_hats
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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                RiscOS - that's a blast from the past.

                From the present[^], actually. It had anti-aliased fonts and a taskbar of open applications when Windows was in short trousers. And you've always been able to skip copying a file that won't copy instead of stopping the whole action! :mad:

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  My son needs to write down some of his violin compositions, and while he's done it on paper, he needs the ability to fiddle (no pun intended) with the timing, etc. Any recommendations for a program that lets you enter musical notation and perhaps play it via midi/built in audio? Thanks! Marc

                  Thyme In The Country
                  Interacx

                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Overture[^] is the only other one I can think of. Here's a couple of considerations. First, many of the major products are shipping with a bundled version of GPO (Garritan Personal Orchestra), making it very easy to play your scores. I ran an Internet radio station for the GPO folks for a while and can highly recommend that library, especially if it's bundled. Nice folks, too. The other thing to talk about is Cakewalk's Sonar. The notation and printing isn't as rich as products like Finale and Sibilius, but that's because it's a MIDI sequencer that has a staff view rather than a staff notation system that also speaks MIDI. That's not just a semantic difference. If you need to tweak the notation itself, get a notation program. However, if you want ultimate control over the MIDI playback of your score, in my opinion Sonar is the most powerful system out there for PCs. It's what I use in the studio for all my MIDI composition and editing. So, it's all good stuff. Just a matter of which directions your needs lie.

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                    Overture[^] is the only other one I can think of. Here's a couple of considerations. First, many of the major products are shipping with a bundled version of GPO (Garritan Personal Orchestra), making it very easy to play your scores. I ran an Internet radio station for the GPO folks for a while and can highly recommend that library, especially if it's bundled. Nice folks, too. The other thing to talk about is Cakewalk's Sonar. The notation and printing isn't as rich as products like Finale and Sibilius, but that's because it's a MIDI sequencer that has a staff view rather than a staff notation system that also speaks MIDI. That's not just a semantic difference. If you need to tweak the notation itself, get a notation program. However, if you want ultimate control over the MIDI playback of your score, in my opinion Sonar is the most powerful system out there for PCs. It's what I use in the studio for all my MIDI composition and editing. So, it's all good stuff. Just a matter of which directions your needs lie.

                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                    J Dunlap
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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    First, many of the major products are shipping with a bundled version of GPO (Garritan Personal Orchestra), making it very easy to play your scores. I ran an Internet radio station for the GPO folks for a while and can highly recommend that library, especially if it's bundled. Nice folks, too.

                    I'll second that - very high quality, for a good price. Can't beat it if you're looking for affordable high-quality instrument samples. :)

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      My son needs to write down some of his violin compositions, and while he's done it on paper, he needs the ability to fiddle (no pun intended) with the timing, etc. Any recommendations for a program that lets you enter musical notation and perhaps play it via midi/built in audio? Thanks! Marc

                      Thyme In The Country
                      Interacx

                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                      joelgarabedian
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                      Hi Marc, There's a relatively new product on the market, which I think might be called Notion. I haven't tried it myself, but it comes with a built in orchestral sample set and a soft synth, so it can play back scores with a decent level of realism. As someone else has mentioned, Sibelius is very popular for professional scoring, but most good sequencers (Cubase / Logic / Cakewalk) also offer very good scoring facilities, in addition to full audio recording and mixing capabilities if those might be of use to your son.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        My son needs to write down some of his violin compositions, and while he's done it on paper, he needs the ability to fiddle (no pun intended) with the timing, etc. Any recommendations for a program that lets you enter musical notation and perhaps play it via midi/built in audio? Thanks! Marc

                        Thyme In The Country
                        Interacx

                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Try Sheet Music Software[^].


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