What's your outsourced story?
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Im sorry to hear that. :rose: What type of outsourcing, overseas or just bringing in an "expert" consulting company?
CleaKO
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"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)Does it really matter? I don't know who it is, nor do I really care. We got hosed...period. They cleaned out the entire department. It just sounds strange that we were so close to enterprise-wide deployment, and they decided to have some outsourcing company start from scratch.
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Does it really matter? I don't know who it is, nor do I really care. We got hosed...period. They cleaned out the entire department. It just sounds strange that we were so close to enterprise-wide deployment, and they decided to have some outsourcing company start from scratch.
Money rules the world, who knows how it came into play in your company's situation. Again, I hope for the best. :rose:
CleaKO
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
ednrgc wrote:
the outsourcing company start from scratch
That sounds very stupid. :wtf: How long did the project took?
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ednrgc wrote:
the outsourcing company start from scratch
That sounds very stupid. :wtf: How long did the project took?
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That makes it even more stupid. Did the decision came from someone very high up inthe management with no clue at all.
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I don't know why I've got the impression that they're not going to start from scratch but just finish it and maintain it from that point. Of course the company they've outsourced to is less expensive than maintaining the employees. Well that's what the world has come to. Bigger profits for the bigger organizations.
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
That's your problem, Management don't like it when IT project's are doing well. IT projects are meant to fail. That's why the outsourcing move, They are able to get failing IT project at Half the Price, so then they can re-employ you at twice the price to fix it! IT's the economics.
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ednrgc wrote:
For another 10 whole days
That's a pretty quick turnaround isnt it? How can they possibly have a smooth transition with 10 days? Totally stupid.
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that.'" - Tommy (Tommy Boy)
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
ednrgc wrote:
Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch.
Sorry to hear that.
ednrgc wrote:
excellent results and feedback
I wonder what made management take such a big step in these circumstances.
Farhan Noor Qureshi
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ednrgc wrote:
For another 10 whole days
That's a pretty quick turnaround isnt it? How can they possibly have a smooth transition with 10 days? Totally stupid.
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that.'" - Tommy (Tommy Boy)
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)There really is NO turnaround. Since they are starting anew, they are simply using our existing project documentation. They will probably do their own documentation, but will use our extensive documentation also. I guess the rule of thumb is "don't document systems. It will make you easily replaceable."
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
Good Lord. With a management team making decisions like that, I wouldn't want to work for them anyway. I certainly hope you all are getting some kind of severance package and assistance with job placement; if not, then it would just speak to my first point about your mess.
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
You and a couple of co-workers go out quickly and start your own company. Then put a bid in lower than the now outsourcing company. You and your co-workers already know the project so you should be able to complete it sooner than the other company starting from scratch. And yall keep a job.
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You and a couple of co-workers go out quickly and start your own company. Then put a bid in lower than the now outsourcing company. You and your co-workers already know the project so you should be able to complete it sooner than the other company starting from scratch. And yall keep a job.
God Bless, Jason
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Does it really matter? I don't know who it is, nor do I really care. We got hosed...period. They cleaned out the entire department. It just sounds strange that we were so close to enterprise-wide deployment, and they decided to have some outsourcing company start from scratch.
It sounds like the new FY budget could be a cause in this. :~ I'm sorry that you've lost your job, but I expect your firm will get what they are planning for: total failure. :rose:
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
Sorry to hear that. Good luck to you in the future! At my previous employer, we had 2 IT development groups. My group was in charge of a web application, and the second group was in charge of a desktop application. The company president decided to get rid of the desktop group and outsource the new version of the desktop software. I quit immediately after. My vindication is that the outsourced project is now about 2 YEARS overdue. The company president's justification that he was able to hire "a legion of programmers with Master's degrees" for the cost of our small IT department apparently didn't take into account the fact that they don't deliver. Again, best of luck in find a new (and better) job.
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
That's why you NEVER, EVER write documentation for your project. Sure, let the outsourcing company take over a 3 year project without any comments or documentation, it would take outsourcing company 4 months just to get started modifying anything. :) On a more serious note good luck looking for another job. Start sending out resumes right away, this very evening, don't delay. Smaller companies have ~2 weeks turnaround, between initial contact and offer, larger ones may take up to 3 months. If I were I would also slack the 10 days that you got left (but then I'm bad like that, that's just the cost of their stupid decision).
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You and a couple of co-workers go out quickly and start your own company. Then put a bid in lower than the now outsourcing company. You and your co-workers already know the project so you should be able to complete it sooner than the other company starting from scratch. And yall keep a job.
God Bless, Jason
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start your own company. Then put a bid in lower than the now outsourcing company. You and your co-workers already know the project so you should be able to complete it sooner than the other company starting from scratch.
Who would want to work for clowns like that for less money? :~
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Mine just happened. Our entire department was informed it was being outsourced....we are 2 months from deployment. :omg: They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch. :omg: It wasn't a matter of the application not going well, or not working. We were actually ahead of schedule, and were in parallel testing with several business units (with excellent results and feedback BTW). :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
ednrgc wrote:
They are scrapping the entire project, and having the outsourcing company start from scratch.
To some extent, one could argue that the same thing happened to me. I (yes, one person) was replaced by I think 7 fellow from Costa Rica and the entire project was scrapped and started from scratch again. Last I heard, that project was being scrapped and restarted again. Well, at least I have a benchmark now. I'm worth 7 Costa Rican programmers! Woot! Marc
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jason_lakewhitney wrote:
start your own company. Then put a bid in lower than the now outsourcing company. You and your co-workers already know the project so you should be able to complete it sooner than the other company starting from scratch.
Who would want to work for clowns like that for less money? :~
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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jason_lakewhitney wrote: start your own company. Then put a bid in lower than the now outsourcing company. You and your co-workers already know the project so you should be able to complete it sooner than the other company starting from scratch. Who would want to work for clowns like that for less money?
Well, a better solution would be to pull money, buy outsourcing company, fire all of the developers, finish the project in two months, and charge the originating company for 1-2 year of work (which is probably what outsourcing company would take to complete it). :D Yeah, I know it's a bit unrealistic, but it's fun to think if that could be true...
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There really is NO turnaround. Since they are starting anew, they are simply using our existing project documentation. They will probably do their own documentation, but will use our extensive documentation also. I guess the rule of thumb is "don't document systems. It will make you easily replaceable."
ednrgc wrote:
they are simply using our existing project documentation.
Oh fun! They'll blame their delays on your documentation, too :mad:
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