Union for Programmers
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
You are not the slave of your employer. You have the right and the ability to seek a better paying job or to create your own better paying job. If you don't like the pay or the benefits, take your skills elsewhere. Heck, you may even convince your current employer to give you a raise if they know you are looking around. IMHO, unions are a construct of socialists. If you live in a free country, stand up for yourself! Like it or not, I'm right.
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
Bill SerGio wrote: stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep Oh dear Bill, ewe have been away for far too long... :rolleyes: ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Tim Smith wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH The lounge can be a real page-turner at times. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) "I just recieved an email from myself but I didn't send it ?" - Colin Davies, Sonork conference
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Tim Smith wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH The lounge can be a real page-turner at times. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) "I just recieved an email from myself but I didn't send it ?" - Colin Davies, Sonork conference
My wit even amuses me. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
Bill SerGio wrote: Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep Is there any way to stop taking crap from Sergio? Even if I was upset with my situation the last place I'd go for help is to somebody like this guy.
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
$100k? If only. The games industry would fall apart overnight if us games programmers demanded that :( -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Bill SerGio wrote: Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep Is there any way to stop taking crap from Sergio? Even if I was upset with my situation the last place I'd go for help is to somebody like this guy.
Unless you needed an infomercial :-D -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
You're not making $100,000 yet?
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Bill SerGio wrote: stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep Oh dear Bill, ewe have been away for far too long... :rolleyes: ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
Fergetaboutit. I could'nt take the pay cut. Any decent programmer with any cojones of his own is either self employeed or doing contract jobs anyway. The active word here is decent. You would be suprised at the number of people who think they are programmers but have no idea what data structures, alogrithms, state machines, etc.. are. They think drag and drop GUI's are the hot thing to do or will spend 2 weeks writing a new control to do something stupid like different color highlights or some such.. However ask the same person to parse in a delimited text file into records and then sort and eliminate duplicates and all you get is a blank stare. Richard ( Never trust anyone under 40 ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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Fergetaboutit. I could'nt take the pay cut. Any decent programmer with any cojones of his own is either self employeed or doing contract jobs anyway. The active word here is decent. You would be suprised at the number of people who think they are programmers but have no idea what data structures, alogrithms, state machines, etc.. are. They think drag and drop GUI's are the hot thing to do or will spend 2 weeks writing a new control to do something stupid like different color highlights or some such.. However ask the same person to parse in a delimited text file into records and then sort and eliminate duplicates and all you get is a blank stare. Richard ( Never trust anyone under 40 ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: ( Never trust anyone under 40 :laugh: Considering that designing for Windows users consists of spending 6% of your time doing the functional program and the rest dorking around with all the cutesy graphics stuff, those "other" programmers could be considered 94% expert!
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
Bill SerGio wrote: Programmers are grossly under paid You have somewhat of a point here. Those that just program probably don't get paid a heck of a lot. It is usually those that do much more than program that achieve the significant rewards. Bill SerGio wrote: join the Teamsters My previous experiences with this crowd has never done anything to help fill my pocket. You remind me of the starving artists. Chris
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Fergetaboutit. I could'nt take the pay cut. Any decent programmer with any cojones of his own is either self employeed or doing contract jobs anyway. The active word here is decent. You would be suprised at the number of people who think they are programmers but have no idea what data structures, alogrithms, state machines, etc.. are. They think drag and drop GUI's are the hot thing to do or will spend 2 weeks writing a new control to do something stupid like different color highlights or some such.. However ask the same person to parse in a delimited text file into records and then sort and eliminate duplicates and all you get is a blank stare. Richard ( Never trust anyone under 40 ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: ( Never trust anyone under 40 ) Glad I'm near the big 50 :) I know, it's all downhill from there. Chris
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Programmers are grossly under paid and in general programmers lack the balls to speak up and DEMAND from employers what they are worth. It is time for programmers to join the Teamsters and demand that the teamsters act on their behalf. All programmers should receive a minimum of $100,000 per year! An average rate of pay for a C++ programmer should be $150,000 per year. Stop taking crap from employers--stop pissing in their urine bottles like a bunch of sheep. Any company that requires a drug test is demeaning the employee and no employee should ever take this crap! Let's send aclear message to employers that these nerd programmers will not take crap and demand a minimum of $100,000 per--stand up for yourselves guys and gals!:mad: Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King
No thanks. I rely on the competition between companies to pay me what I'm worth. Software is a pretty volitile industry. Establishing a union will burn the entire industry everytime there is a downturn. Whereas *not* establishing a union will allow the industry to adjust to downturns by (1) giving companies more flexibility in paying employees, and (2) allow for the firing of useless employees. (In fact, one of the main jobs of unions seems to be to prevent companies from firing useless employees, and it hurts everyone else.) Overall, I think unions would hurt software companies and would be the best way to move job overseas. (Have learned anything by watching the US steel industry?) Besides, Bill, you are the *king* of infomercials. As the local CP royalty, aren't you afraid of giving power to the commoners? :)
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Fergetaboutit. I could'nt take the pay cut. Any decent programmer with any cojones of his own is either self employeed or doing contract jobs anyway. The active word here is decent. You would be suprised at the number of people who think they are programmers but have no idea what data structures, alogrithms, state machines, etc.. are. They think drag and drop GUI's are the hot thing to do or will spend 2 weeks writing a new control to do something stupid like different color highlights or some such.. However ask the same person to parse in a delimited text file into records and then sort and eliminate duplicates and all you get is a blank stare. Richard ( Never trust anyone under 40 ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: Never trust anyone under 40 I hope that's a joke. Jeremy L. Falcon "You do not know the power of the dumb side." Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Richard Stringer wrote: Never trust anyone under 40 I hope that's a joke. Jeremy L. Falcon "You do not know the power of the dumb side." Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants momentarily?No Joke. Perfectly serious At 20 you know all the answers At 40 you know all the questions At 50 you can relate the two Wisdom must be attained - not learned Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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No Joke. Perfectly serious At 20 you know all the answers At 40 you know all the questions At 50 you can relate the two Wisdom must be attained - not learned Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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No Joke. Perfectly serious At 20 you know all the answers At 40 you know all the questions At 50 you can relate the two Wisdom must be attained - not learned Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: No Joke. Perfectly serious Truly sad: if I thought that way, there would have been no way that I could have lead a group of developers, nor delegated authority and/or responisbility if I did not trust 'em. Richard Stringer wrote: Wisdom must be attained - not learned But to believe that all people attain knowledge/wisdom/whatever at the same rate (or at the same point in their lives) is naive... :) Some may have known all of the answers at 17, all of the questions at 26, and almost has all of the peices together at 33! (Not that I am 33 yet...) Peace! -=- James. "Fat people are hard to kidnap." (Try Check Favorites Sometime!)