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  • E eunderwo00

    I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    At least it probably wasn't copied and pasted from an example on a disk that came with a book.

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      didn't he try to compile it before he gave you the code.... or better yet, Didn't the syntax highlighting of whatever the latest and greatest IDE you're using catch it... or if this is c++ why didn't he just go int_i++ its a lot faster then inc(int_i) (assuming he had his datatypes spelled right)

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      TheCoolestDudeInComputerWorld wrote:

      didn't he try to compile it before he gave you the code.... or better yet, Didn't the syntax highlighting of whatever the latest and greatest IDE you're using catch it...

      Why would it?? It's perfectly legal code! It's not up to the IDE to do optimizations.

      TheCoolestDudeInComputerWorld wrote:

      if this is c++ why didn't he just go int_i++

      That's probably why it's in the Coding Horrors forum.

      Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
           2006, 2007

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      • E eunderwo00

        I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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        Dave Kreskowiak
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        More proof that an idiot can write bad code in any language - not just VB. :-D

        Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
             2006, 2007

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        • E eunderwo00

          I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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          Nemanja Trifunovic
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          eunderwo00 wrote:

          private integer inc(integer int_i)

          And what language is this, btw? Looks like C# or Java except for the integer type which is VB-like.


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          • S StevenWalsh

            didn't he try to compile it before he gave you the code.... or better yet, Didn't the syntax highlighting of whatever the latest and greatest IDE you're using catch it... or if this is c++ why didn't he just go int_i++ its a lot faster then inc(int_i) (assuming he had his datatypes spelled right)

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            TheCoolestDudeInComputerWorld wrote:

            if this is c++ why didn't he just go int_i++ its a lot faster then inc(int_i) (assuming he had his datatypes spelled right)

            This is not C++. The private keyword cannot precede a function like this in C++. Looks like some C#/VB hybrid to me ;P But if it was C++, this function would most probably be optimized away by the compiler, so there would be no performance penalty.


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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              More proof that an idiot can write bad code in any language - not just VB. :-D

              Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                   2006, 2007

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              John R Shaw
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              :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

              INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                TheCoolestDudeInComputerWorld wrote:

                if this is c++ why didn't he just go int_i++ its a lot faster then inc(int_i) (assuming he had his datatypes spelled right)

                This is not C++. The private keyword cannot precede a function like this in C++. Looks like some C#/VB hybrid to me ;P But if it was C++, this function would most probably be optimized away by the compiler, so there would be no performance penalty.


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                Dave Kreskowiak
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                It's entirely C#, not a hybrid.

                Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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                • E eunderwo00

                  I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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                  John R Shaw
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                  I would have to see the rest of their work before deciding, unless they where expected to work alone. A degree does not guarantee that someone is a programmer, only that they are capable of learning. Until recently I did not have a degree and I have been a programmer for years. I did already have an associates degree in electronics, but I was not a technician long enough to claim it as a profession. Here is an idea: Give them a personality test, that way you will have a better idea of how good a programmer they have the potential of becoming.

                  INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    It's entirely C#, not a hybrid.

                    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                         2006, 2007

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                    Mike Dimmick
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                    C# doesn't have an integer keyword - it's Java. I'm fairly sure that java.lang.Integer is a class, not a straightforward value type - that's still called int. That would make an Integer the equivalent of a boxed int in C#/.NET.

                    Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      More proof that an idiot can write bad code in any language - not just VB. :-D

                      Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                           2006, 2007

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                      Shog9 0
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                      More proof that an idiot can make any language look like VB... ;P

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                      • M Mike Dimmick

                        C# doesn't have an integer keyword - it's Java. I'm fairly sure that java.lang.Integer is a class, not a straightforward value type - that's still called int. That would make an Integer the equivalent of a boxed int in C#/.NET.

                        Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                        Dave Kreskowiak
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                        Whoops! Missed that one. Comes from using primarily VB.NET to do all my work.

                        Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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                        • M Mike Dimmick

                          C# doesn't have an integer keyword - it's Java. I'm fairly sure that java.lang.Integer is a class, not a straightforward value type - that's still called int. That would make an Integer the equivalent of a boxed int in C#/.NET.

                          Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          Mike Dimmick wrote:

                          C# doesn't have an integer keyword - it's Java.

                          Just like C#, Java doesn't have integer keyword. Here is the list of Java keywords.[^]


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                            I would have to see the rest of their work before deciding, unless they where expected to work alone. A degree does not guarantee that someone is a programmer, only that they are capable of learning. Until recently I did not have a degree and I have been a programmer for years. I did already have an associates degree in electronics, but I was not a technician long enough to claim it as a profession. Here is an idea: Give them a personality test, that way you will have a better idea of how good a programmer they have the potential of becoming.

                            INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                            StevenWalsh
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                            I didn't consider the possibility, maybe he just had a brain fart? I can remember writing what i was thinking one or two times. Granted he SHOULD have read over his code before presenting it... I can say I've presented code to my boss without fully testing it out of stupid young confidence.

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                              I didn't consider the possibility, maybe he just had a brain fart? I can remember writing what i was thinking one or two times. Granted he SHOULD have read over his code before presenting it... I can say I've presented code to my boss without fully testing it out of stupid young confidence.

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                              Teashirt2
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                              Bunch of bruts aren't you. Have some mercy for the young and inexperienced. In my work I sometimes see more creative work from people you would have fired.

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                              • S StevenWalsh

                                I didn't consider the possibility, maybe he just had a brain fart? I can remember writing what i was thinking one or two times. Granted he SHOULD have read over his code before presenting it... I can say I've presented code to my boss without fully testing it out of stupid young confidence.

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                                John R Shaw
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                                That was more than a brain fart, but it would have done what it was designed to do. It was just a foolish thing to do. I have never had a boss that could really understand the code without me explaining it to him. Matter of fact I cust one for saying I did not understand the question, when the fact was he did not understand the answer. Of course they had just hired him and he eventialy learned that I knew what I was doing.

                                INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                                  C# doesn't have an integer keyword - it's Java. I'm fairly sure that java.lang.Integer is a class, not a straightforward value type - that's still called int. That would make an Integer the equivalent of a boxed int in C#/.NET.

                                  Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  May have used # define integer int or typedef

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                                  • E eunderwo00

                                    I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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                                    alex barylski
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                                    Did you offer him/her constructive criticism? :) Otherwise they'll continue writing bad code. IMHO it's not really bad code as from what I can tell it looks valid. More bad practice, which is something only experience can teach you - at least osmething that trivial as I don't think Fowler, etc address those kind of design choices. :P

                                    I'm finding the only constant in software development is change it self.

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                                      May have used # define integer int or typedef

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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                      May have used # define integer int or typedef

                                      C# does not have them although using can be used for that purpose in a file scope, but I honestly think that the OP made a typo. Maybe he should be fired, rather than the poor beginner programmer :)


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                                      • E eunderwo00

                                        I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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                                        Lost User
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                                        eunderwo00 wrote:

                                        I hired a programmer right out of school.

                                        Right out of Jr. High? :laugh: How did the "programmer" pass his classes with skills like that?

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                                        • E eunderwo00

                                          I hired a programmer right out of school. Started him on a very simple project. I performed a tech review of the code and saw the following method call private integer inc(integer int_i) { integer int_j=int_i+1; return int_j; } He no longer works for the company.......:wtf: Moose Man

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                                          asifali
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                                          I think he should be informed of his mistake, encouragement might help him to overcome his deficiencies. A.A.

                                          asif

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