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Just because HDD are cheaper, doesnt mean apps should be bigger!

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  • M Michael Dunn

    HP's hardware is fine. HP's software is [censored]. It's been like that for years. :sigh:

    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Dunder-Mifflin, this is Pam.

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    HP and software are two terms that one should never coin together in a single sentence X| . I've just got my HP TX1016AU yesterday and I had to remove a bunch of HP free software from it. I still have to remove Norton Internet security 2007 from it, which is taking a "Lions share" of the processor time, for no good reason.


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      This didnt work either :sigh:

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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      With hardware vendors trying to improve on their deliverables, the software drivers try to take a cool honey mooning resort on the performance of the hardware rather than optimizing it to perform best with minimal resources. The 'coding horrors' forum stands as a silent succinct testimony for this.

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        HP and software are two terms that one should never coin together in a single sentence X| . I've just got my HP TX1016AU yesterday and I had to remove a bunch of HP free software from it. I still have to remove Norton Internet security 2007 from it, which is taking a "Lions share" of the processor time, for no good reason.


        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero

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        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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        brahmma wrote:

        Norton Internet security 2007

        It is a sick sh*t, which takes so much of memory and CPU cycles. :mad:

        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

          Honestly, there isn't a damn reason why anyone would disable the anti-virus and anti-spyware software to install a fat pig shit webcam software crapware. Tell me what webcam it is, I must be sure never to buy it. X|


          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero

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          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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          True. I agree. We ought to keep the doors secure first.

          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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          • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

            I just downloaded the software for my webcam, and its an insanely big 88.8mb! I dont want junk, I just want a webcam :mad: Edit:

            Installer wrote:

            Disable anti-virus and spyware software.

            I dont bloody think so.

            Nnamdi Onyeyiri

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            leppie
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            Logitech SetPoint 4.00 Mouse driver/software - 59MB Intel Wifi driver/software - 120MB+

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              True. I agree. We ought to keep the doors secure first.

              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              I wonder what is the stuff that they put into a webcam software to make it 88MB. I hate such software and I am sure never to install any such thing. Yahoo messenger (It installs some 50 MB of stuff and adds a toolbar by default. Crap! :mad:) is another such thing. After a CPian suggested, I tried GTalk, which is just awesome. GTalk: One executable file and that is the software.


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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                I wonder what is the stuff that they put into a webcam software to make it 88MB. I hate such software and I am sure never to install any such thing. Yahoo messenger (It installs some 50 MB of stuff and adds a toolbar by default. Crap! :mad:) is another such thing. After a CPian suggested, I tried GTalk, which is just awesome. GTalk: One executable file and that is the software.


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                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                I simply hate those Instant Messaging craps. Good that Yahoo and Google has brought in integrated-to-the-email chatting.

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                • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

                  I just downloaded the software for my webcam, and its an insanely big 88.8mb! I dont want junk, I just want a webcam :mad: Edit:

                  Installer wrote:

                  Disable anti-virus and spyware software.

                  I dont bloody think so.

                  Nnamdi Onyeyiri

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                  The driver download itself was 88mb, but I would venture that a good portion of that was a) the installer itself, and b) useless apps that have nothing to do with the driver. How much room on the hard drive did the driver actually require?

                  Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote:

                  Installer wrote: Disable anti-virus and spyware software.

                  Installers have been recommending that for years. Why? Because they have to write to the registry, and may be placing files in system32. If you don't want to disable that stuff, then don't run that stuff.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    The driver download itself was 88mb, but I would venture that a good portion of that was a) the installer itself, and b) useless apps that have nothing to do with the driver. How much room on the hard drive did the driver actually require?

                    Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote:

                    Installer wrote: Disable anti-virus and spyware software.

                    Installers have been recommending that for years. Why? Because they have to write to the registry, and may be placing files in system32. If you don't want to disable that stuff, then don't run that stuff.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Installers have been recommending that for years.

                    Not all the installers, though.


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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      Installers have been recommending that for years.

                      Not all the installers, though.


                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero

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                      I didn't say *all* installers. Do I *really* have to spell it out?

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

                        I just downloaded the software for my webcam, and its an insanely big 88.8mb! I dont want junk, I just want a webcam :mad: Edit:

                        Installer wrote:

                        Disable anti-virus and spyware software.

                        I dont bloody think so.

                        Nnamdi Onyeyiri

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                        Jasmine2501
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                        What? The drivers for a web cam shouldn't be more than 1MB... And I totally agree... space is not free. Here's my intern: Dustin: Why did you do that? Jasmine: Because it frees up a MB of memory that I don't need anymore. Dustin: So? Jasmine: It's not right to hang on to memory you're not using anymore. Dustin: But people have lots of memory - Gigs of it! You might need it again. Jasmine: Just go back to work, dude. Drives me nuts. Memory management is just not important to some people... which is why using FireFox for a few hours will eat up all your memory... they never bother to release it. There is no reason for that... you can open up 6 tabs and your usage goes up to 300MB or so, but even if you close the tabs, it stays up there... why? FF is such a good app I would think there is a reason for it, but I suspect it's just lazy programming. Mine's eating 116MB right now and I only have this one window open. Yikes... I consider this the same thing as not flushing the toilet. It's extra work, but you know...

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          Honestly, there isn't a damn reason why anyone would disable the anti-virus and anti-spyware software to install a fat pig shit webcam software crapware. Tell me what webcam it is, I must be sure never to buy it. X|


                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero

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                          Jasmine2501
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                          Logitech. They are good. It installs a webcam client program and control panels and the drivers. They pushed out an update last week and it was a pretty big download.

                          "Quality Software since 1983!"
                          http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for freeware tools and articles.

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                          • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

                            I just downloaded the software for my webcam, and its an insanely big 88.8mb! I dont want junk, I just want a webcam :mad: Edit:

                            Installer wrote:

                            Disable anti-virus and spyware software.

                            I dont bloody think so.

                            Nnamdi Onyeyiri

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                            Joe Woodbury
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                            Adobe Acrobat is my leading contender for the bloat prize; it's become simply huge.

                            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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