Is God the best programmer?
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It's still an entirely bogus assertion. We don't know how likely or unlikely it is. It may be that earth contains the only complex life in the entire universe because only here did everything come together. On the other hand, life could exist in great abundance elsewhere in the universe and we are a puny, and not so sophisticated, example of it. One thing that would provide some evidence of God would be if there was life elsewhere and it was very similar to, and highly compatible with, life here. The mere existence of human beings who could reproduce with earthlings would pretty much nail that box shut.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
One thing that would provide some evidence of God would be if there was life elsewhere and it was very similar to, and highly compatible with, life here.
What does compatibility with life on earth have to do with proving the existence of God? We agree on the fact that earth and the abundance of life on it MAY very well be a unique case in the entire universe. Since this cannot be proven wrong or right this debate is probably not going anywhere fast. Should we however find super-intelligent life tomorrow, or more probable, should super-intelligent life find us and make themselves known, chances are they too will have a point of view on the existence of God. I know this is an assumption on my part, but should that be the case, the fact that they have a view on the existence of God (positive or not) is evidence of some commonomity that may very well be the scientific prove of the existence of God. I do not need this substantiation though, my beliefs are steadfast but I do respect your point of view. Imagine knowing what is outside the universe, if it even has an outside!
_______________________________________________________________________ "you can't forget something you never knew..." M. Du Toit "Watching Migthy Joe Young made me hate my life..................................I want a gorilla!" A. Havemann http://www.myspace.com/manicevilnoodle
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
One thing that would provide some evidence of God would be if there was life elsewhere and it was very similar to, and highly compatible with, life here.
What does compatibility with life on earth have to do with proving the existence of God? We agree on the fact that earth and the abundance of life on it MAY very well be a unique case in the entire universe. Since this cannot be proven wrong or right this debate is probably not going anywhere fast. Should we however find super-intelligent life tomorrow, or more probable, should super-intelligent life find us and make themselves known, chances are they too will have a point of view on the existence of God. I know this is an assumption on my part, but should that be the case, the fact that they have a view on the existence of God (positive or not) is evidence of some commonomity that may very well be the scientific prove of the existence of God. I do not need this substantiation though, my beliefs are steadfast but I do respect your point of view. Imagine knowing what is outside the universe, if it even has an outside!
_______________________________________________________________________ "you can't forget something you never knew..." M. Du Toit "Watching Migthy Joe Young made me hate my life..................................I want a gorilla!" A. Havemann http://www.myspace.com/manicevilnoodle
evilnoodle wrote:
What does compatibility with life on earth have to do with proving the existence of God?
Because the odds of having life elsewhere that would have DNA, let alone sufficiently identical to life on this planet to reproduce, would be so unlikely as to provide some evidence of a common creator.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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evilnoodle wrote:
That is far from true. In my case anyway.
Glad to hear it.
evilnoodle wrote:
Being an atheist definitely doesn't qualify you as bad or evil.
I agree, just as being religious does not mean you are good or evil, but the problem is that a lot of people believe it is true. I am an athiest (obviously :-D) but would never hurt anyone, except in self defence of course, I don't steal or do anything else illegal. I just do not believe in god and to some that makes me a heratic/infidel who should be killed. This is why I think religion can be very dangerous, not for my own sake but for the sake of humanity. regards,
Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]
I am a Christian and we want everyone to be approached by the Wonderful gospel of Our Father in Heaven sometime in their life and just by doing that how can your statement of all religious people being prejudice be true? I know that there are some religious groups in the world that would think that, but they don't pray to my God. My God is THE God of Love. All you see around you was created in someway. There is just NO obvious or scientific explanation for everything around you just to one day BE there. For example, look at the Human body...it is the most incredible thing we know, the way it works is just no way of thinking it just "happened" one day... I am not saying this to convert you, I'm just telling you that our God lives and He loves you, no matter who you are. I believe that everyone that reads this would realize that everything you are, are not just a matter of chance. There is a greater plan for all of us!