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  • L led mike

    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

    I think that if you ever reached that limit then you might want to seriously reconsider your design.

    or the switch/case limit or the if/elseif limit or the .... or if none of that makes sense to you try this[^]

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    vytheese
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    Oh God, thats classic link. :) Thanks, Vythees

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    • L leppie

      Seeing Assembly metatokens takes the following form: 00 000000, where the former is the type, and the latter is the code, I would say the maximum number of methoddef's in an assembly would be limited to 24-bits, iow 16.7 million. Dunno if there is a limitation on a classes though.

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      Ed Poore
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      There is a limit, I remember someone a while ago (I've got a feeling in this forum) hit a limit on the number of fields in anycase that they could include in a class.  Buggered if I can remember where it was or what it was :sigh:


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        A nice research. Thanks, Vythees

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        leppie
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        Not research, I know it from working with the spec :) And those values can be accessed from .NET 2 (nowadays).

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        • E Ed Poore

          There is a limit, I remember someone a while ago (I've got a feeling in this forum) hit a limit on the number of fields in anycase that they could include in a class.  Buggered if I can remember where it was or what it was :sigh:


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          leppie
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          Maybe you are thinking about the parameter limit, that is 16383/4.

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            Maybe you are thinking about the parameter limit, that is 16383/4.

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            Ed Poore
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            No, I'm pretty sure that someone managed to hit a limit on the number of fields that could be contained in a class.  I'll do some digging.


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            • V vytheese

              Just curiosity ;) , Did anyone have idea of how many methods a single C# class can allow ? I heard, it is compiler dependent If true, what is the maximum no allowed by the standard compiler ? Thanks, Vythees

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              Sean Michael Murphy
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              I let this run for an hour to get to 5000 before I gave up. Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

              using System;
              using System.Collections.Generic;
              using System.Text;
              using System.CodeDom.Compiler;
                 
              namespace MethodCountLimitFinder {
                 class Program {
                    static void Main(string[] args) {
                       Int32 methodCount = 1;
                       Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider cscp = new Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider();
                       ICodeCompiler icc = cscp.CreateCompiler();
                 
                       CompilerParameters cp = new CompilerParameters();
                       cp.GenerateExecutable = false;
                       cp.GenerateInMemory = true;
                 
                       CompilerResults cr = null;
                       string pre = "using System;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                Environment.NewLine +
                                "namespace Tester {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                " class Test {" + Environment.NewLine;
                       string post = " }" + Environment.NewLine +
                                "}";
                       string inner = string.Empty;
                 
                       while (true) {
                          inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                   " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                   " }" + Envi

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                I let this run for an hour to get to 5000 before I gave up. Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

                using System;
                using System.Collections.Generic;
                using System.Text;
                using System.CodeDom.Compiler;
                   
                namespace MethodCountLimitFinder {
                   class Program {
                      static void Main(string[] args) {
                         Int32 methodCount = 1;
                         Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider cscp = new Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider();
                         ICodeCompiler icc = cscp.CreateCompiler();
                   
                         CompilerParameters cp = new CompilerParameters();
                         cp.GenerateExecutable = false;
                         cp.GenerateInMemory = true;
                   
                         CompilerResults cr = null;
                         string pre = "using System;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                  Environment.NewLine +
                                  "namespace Tester {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                  " class Test {" + Environment.NewLine;
                         string post = " }" + Environment.NewLine +
                                  "}";
                         string inner = string.Empty;
                   
                         while (true) {
                            inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                     " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                     " }" + Envi

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                Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                while (true) { inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine; cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; methodCount++; if (methodCount % 10 == 0) System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString()); }

                Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

                No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.


                "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                • V vytheese

                  I agree, I think then there should be the same constraint exist in .NET class also. Thanks, Vythees

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                  Even assuming there is a constraint, you're talking about 2 totally different languages so why should they be the same?

                  -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                    Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                    while (true) { inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine; cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; methodCount++; if (methodCount % 10 == 0) System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString()); }

                    Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                    Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

                    No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.


                    "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                    Martin 0
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                    Cannot been said to often! Good answere!

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                    • M Martin 0

                      Cannot been said to often! Good answere!

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                      Well it can be said too often, but it's appropriate here.

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                        Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                        while (true) { inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine; cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; methodCount++; if (methodCount % 10 == 0) System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString()); }

                        Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                        Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

                        No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.


                        "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                        dnh wrote:

                        No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.

                        Hmmm. Interesting. When I originally undertook to code this snippet to try to figure an answer to this guys question, optimization was pretty far from my mind. I mean, I cranked the original bit of code out in 15 minutes (or so) and had originally coded it so the methods would be recreated every time. I took another 5 minutes and optimized it so that only 1 method (the new one) would have to be concatenated to the "guts", which was then stuck in between the fixed "header" and "footer" of the class. It ran slowly, but I assumed that most of the overhead was in the actual code compilation (compiling classes of 15000 lines), and not a little bit of string concatenation. So I've re-written it using StringBuilder and timed both versions for 500 iterations. The original code did 500 iterations on my PC in 161.5222 seconds. This version:

                        StringBuilder inner = new StringBuilder();
                         
                        DateTime startTime = DateTime.Now;
                           
                        for (Int32 i = 0; i < 500; i++) {
                           inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                        " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                        " }" + Environment.NewLine);
                         
                           StringBuilder code = new StringBuilder(pre);
                           code.Append(inner);
                           code.Append(post);
                           cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, code.ToString());
                         
                           if (cr.Errors.Count > 0)
                              break;
                         
                           methodCount++;
                         
                           if (methodCount % 10 == 0)
                              System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString());
                        }
                         
                        TimeSpan ts = DateTime.Now - startTime;
                         
                        System.Console.WriteLine(ts.TotalSeconds);

                        did it in 160.111. Much less that 1% slower. Not a string concatenation to be found, except for the line joins. Anything to add? Thanks. Sean

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                          dnh wrote:

                          No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.

                          Hmmm. Interesting. When I originally undertook to code this snippet to try to figure an answer to this guys question, optimization was pretty far from my mind. I mean, I cranked the original bit of code out in 15 minutes (or so) and had originally coded it so the methods would be recreated every time. I took another 5 minutes and optimized it so that only 1 method (the new one) would have to be concatenated to the "guts", which was then stuck in between the fixed "header" and "footer" of the class. It ran slowly, but I assumed that most of the overhead was in the actual code compilation (compiling classes of 15000 lines), and not a little bit of string concatenation. So I've re-written it using StringBuilder and timed both versions for 500 iterations. The original code did 500 iterations on my PC in 161.5222 seconds. This version:

                          StringBuilder inner = new StringBuilder();
                           
                          DateTime startTime = DateTime.Now;
                             
                          for (Int32 i = 0; i < 500; i++) {
                             inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                          " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                          " }" + Environment.NewLine);
                           
                             StringBuilder code = new StringBuilder(pre);
                             code.Append(inner);
                             code.Append(post);
                             cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, code.ToString());
                           
                             if (cr.Errors.Count > 0)
                                break;
                           
                             methodCount++;
                           
                             if (methodCount % 10 == 0)
                                System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString());
                          }
                           
                          TimeSpan ts = DateTime.Now - startTime;
                           
                          System.Console.WriteLine(ts.TotalSeconds);

                          did it in 160.111. Much less that 1% slower. Not a string concatenation to be found, except for the line joins. Anything to add? Thanks. Sean

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                          Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                          Anything to add?

                          I'd agree that most time takes compilation, but the thing about string concatenation with + is that it's -unlike compilation - completely unnecessary. And I don't think that using StringBuilder for concatenating strings in big loops is optimalization - I think it's something you should do without thinking. btw you're still allocating 7 or so strings in

                          inner.Append("      public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                          "         return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                          "      }" + Environment.NewLine);
                          

                          every cycle, that's 3500 unnecessary allocations :) Anyway, cool way to check for number of methods limit indeed.


                          "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                            dnh wrote:

                            No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.

                            Hmmm. Interesting. When I originally undertook to code this snippet to try to figure an answer to this guys question, optimization was pretty far from my mind. I mean, I cranked the original bit of code out in 15 minutes (or so) and had originally coded it so the methods would be recreated every time. I took another 5 minutes and optimized it so that only 1 method (the new one) would have to be concatenated to the "guts", which was then stuck in between the fixed "header" and "footer" of the class. It ran slowly, but I assumed that most of the overhead was in the actual code compilation (compiling classes of 15000 lines), and not a little bit of string concatenation. So I've re-written it using StringBuilder and timed both versions for 500 iterations. The original code did 500 iterations on my PC in 161.5222 seconds. This version:

                            StringBuilder inner = new StringBuilder();
                             
                            DateTime startTime = DateTime.Now;
                               
                            for (Int32 i = 0; i < 500; i++) {
                               inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                            " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                            " }" + Environment.NewLine);
                             
                               StringBuilder code = new StringBuilder(pre);
                               code.Append(inner);
                               code.Append(post);
                               cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, code.ToString());
                             
                               if (cr.Errors.Count > 0)
                                  break;
                             
                               methodCount++;
                             
                               if (methodCount % 10 == 0)
                                  System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString());
                            }
                             
                            TimeSpan ts = DateTime.Now - startTime;
                             
                            System.Console.WriteLine(ts.TotalSeconds);

                            did it in 160.111. Much less that 1% slower. Not a string concatenation to be found, except for the line joins. Anything to add? Thanks. Sean

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                            Hi, while( true) { do { inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine); methodCount++; } while ((methodCount % 1000) != 0); cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner.ToString() + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString() + " Compiled successfuly ==> so not succed"); } System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount + " may be approximately to -1000 of method count"); I modified slightly your code as the above and executed, Its going on till 100000 ( above 1 lakh ), My machine got down, So I planned to run today night. Now I feeling, I shouldn't ask this question first of all ;) Thanks, Vythees -- modified at 5:24 Tuesday 3rd July, 2007 Thanks, Vythees

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                              Hi, while( true) { do { inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine); methodCount++; } while ((methodCount % 1000) != 0); cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner.ToString() + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString() + " Compiled successfuly ==> so not succed"); } System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount + " may be approximately to -1000 of method count"); I modified slightly your code as the above and executed, Its going on till 100000 ( above 1 lakh ), My machine got down, So I planned to run today night. Now I feeling, I shouldn't ask this question first of all ;) Thanks, Vythees -- modified at 5:24 Tuesday 3rd July, 2007 Thanks, Vythees

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                              vytheeswaran wrote:

                              Now I feeling, I shouldn't ask this question first of all

                              Don't be crazy. I enjoyed thinking about it. Sean

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                                Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                                Anything to add?

                                I'd agree that most time takes compilation, but the thing about string concatenation with + is that it's -unlike compilation - completely unnecessary. And I don't think that using StringBuilder for concatenating strings in big loops is optimalization - I think it's something you should do without thinking. btw you're still allocating 7 or so strings in

                                inner.Append("      public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                "         return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                "      }" + Environment.NewLine);
                                

                                every cycle, that's 3500 unnecessary allocations :) Anyway, cool way to check for number of methods limit indeed.


                                "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                                dnh wrote:

                                I think it's something you should do without thinking.

                                Never do anything without thinking.

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                                  I let this run for an hour to get to 5000 before I gave up. Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

                                  using System;
                                  using System.Collections.Generic;
                                  using System.Text;
                                  using System.CodeDom.Compiler;
                                     
                                  namespace MethodCountLimitFinder {
                                     class Program {
                                        static void Main(string[] args) {
                                           Int32 methodCount = 1;
                                           Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider cscp = new Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider();
                                           ICodeCompiler icc = cscp.CreateCompiler();
                                     
                                           CompilerParameters cp = new CompilerParameters();
                                           cp.GenerateExecutable = false;
                                           cp.GenerateInMemory = true;
                                     
                                           CompilerResults cr = null;
                                           string pre = "using System;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                    Environment.NewLine +
                                                    "namespace Tester {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                    " class Test {" + Environment.NewLine;
                                           string post = " }" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                    "}";
                                           string inner = string.Empty;
                                     
                                           while (true) {
                                              inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                       " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                                       " }" + Envi

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                                  A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

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                                    dnh wrote:

                                    I think it's something you should do without thinking.

                                    Never do anything without thinking.

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                                    I'll repeat: *Always* use string builder for concatenating strings in big loops. And I stay behind my claim. That being said, if that loop had about 5 iterations in 99,99% and much more in 0,01%, then you have to thinkg about it - IIRC StringBuilder would be slower. But if that task is something that must end in some very limited time or under very limited memory, you can't afford that 0,01% and even if performing worse in average, StringBuilder would be better choice.


                                    "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                                      A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

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                                      In reference to A: error CS1034: Compiler limit exceeded: Line cannot exceed 16777214 characters The following succeeds at 1000000, and then I killed it while it tried 2000000.

                                      namespace MethodCountLimitFinder
                                      {
                                      class Program
                                      {
                                      [System.STAThreadAttribute]
                                      static void Main ( string [] args )
                                      {
                                      Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider provider =
                                      new Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider() ;

                                              System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters cp = 
                                                  new System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters() ;
                                              cp.GenerateExecutable = false ;
                                              cp.GenerateInMemory = true ;
                                      
                                              System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerResults cr = null ;
                                      
                                              System.Text.StringBuilder inner = 
                                                  new System.Text.StringBuilder ( "namespace Tester { class Test {" ) ;
                                      
                                              int methodCount = 1000000 ;
                                      
                                              while ( true )
                                              {
                                                  System.Console.WriteLine ( methodCount ) ;
                                                  
                                                  for ( int i = methodCount ; i > 0 ; i-- )
                                                  {
                                                      inner.AppendFormat ( "void M{0}(){{}}\\n" , methodCount++ ) ;
                                                  }
                                                  
                                                  inner.Append ( "}}" ) ;
                                                  
                                                  cr = provider.CompileAssemblyFromSource ( cp , inner.ToString() ) ;
                                                  
                                                  if ( cr.Errors.Count > 0 )
                                                  {
                                                      break ;
                                                  }
                                                  
                                                  inner.Remove ( inner.Length - 2 , 2 ) ;
                                              }
                                      
                                              foreach (  System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerError ce in cr.Errors )
                                              {
                                                  System.Console.WriteLine ( ce.ToString() ) ;
                                              }
                                          }
                                      }
                                      

                                      }

                                      -- modified at 21:11 Tuesday 3rd July, 2007 2000000 and counting...

                                      C:\>maxi
                                      1000000
                                      2000000
                                      4000000
                                      error CS0001: Internal compiler error (0x80004005)
                                      error CS0001: Internal compiler error (0xc0000017)
                                      error CS0583: Internal Compiler Error (0xc0000005 at address 5A16E208): likely culprit is 'PARSE'.
                                      error CS0586: Internal Compiler Error: stage 'PARSE'
                                      error CS0587: Internal Compiler Error: stage 'PARSE'
                                      error CS0587: Internal Compiler Error: stage 'BEGIN'

                                      C:\>

                                      -- modified at 1:56 Wednesday 4th July, 2007 After 3000000 I started hitting resource limits and timeouts. So now I simply have a program write a file with the code and compile it at the command lin

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                                        A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

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                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

                                        Both excellent suggestions. 1) The NewLines was so I could preview the code during the initial stages of development. Same reason for the indents. I like even my autogenerated code to be neat and tidy. :) 2) Yup. Could have done a more efficient search, but was more interested in starting the app to get the result. By the time I had written the original and the slightly optimized version, I had spent 45 minutes and was getting tired of the exercise. And I thought that The Answer would actually be fairly low (thought it would probably be 256, 512 or 1024 max). I was surprised to see it climb over 2K, but kept expecting it to fail shortly. It never did, so I published the snippet and the result and encouraged others to continue in the work. The application was really intended as a starting point for figuring out the answer to this guys question. It was not a fully peer reviewed, optimized, documented, shrink-wrapped product, as you and others have adequately demonstrated by now... Sean

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