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  • V vytheese

    I agree, I think then there should be the same constraint exist in .NET class also. Thanks, Vythees

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    Dan Neely
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    Even assuming there is a constraint, you're talking about 2 totally different languages so why should they be the same?

    -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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    • D DavidNohejl

      Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

      while (true) { inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine; cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; methodCount++; if (methodCount % 10 == 0) System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString()); }

      Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

      Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

      No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.


      "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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      Martin 0
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      Cannot been said to often! Good answere!

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      • M Martin 0

        Cannot been said to often! Good answere!

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Well it can be said too often, but it's appropriate here.

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        • D DavidNohejl

          Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

          while (true) { inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine; cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; methodCount++; if (methodCount % 10 == 0) System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString()); }

          Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

          Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

          No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.


          "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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          Sean Michael Murphy
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          dnh wrote:

          No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.

          Hmmm. Interesting. When I originally undertook to code this snippet to try to figure an answer to this guys question, optimization was pretty far from my mind. I mean, I cranked the original bit of code out in 15 minutes (or so) and had originally coded it so the methods would be recreated every time. I took another 5 minutes and optimized it so that only 1 method (the new one) would have to be concatenated to the "guts", which was then stuck in between the fixed "header" and "footer" of the class. It ran slowly, but I assumed that most of the overhead was in the actual code compilation (compiling classes of 15000 lines), and not a little bit of string concatenation. So I've re-written it using StringBuilder and timed both versions for 500 iterations. The original code did 500 iterations on my PC in 161.5222 seconds. This version:

          StringBuilder inner = new StringBuilder();
           
          DateTime startTime = DateTime.Now;
             
          for (Int32 i = 0; i < 500; i++) {
             inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                          " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                          " }" + Environment.NewLine);
           
             StringBuilder code = new StringBuilder(pre);
             code.Append(inner);
             code.Append(post);
             cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, code.ToString());
           
             if (cr.Errors.Count > 0)
                break;
           
             methodCount++;
           
             if (methodCount % 10 == 0)
                System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString());
          }
           
          TimeSpan ts = DateTime.Now - startTime;
           
          System.Console.WriteLine(ts.TotalSeconds);

          did it in 160.111. Much less that 1% slower. Not a string concatenation to be found, except for the line joins. Anything to add? Thanks. Sean

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            dnh wrote:

            No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.

            Hmmm. Interesting. When I originally undertook to code this snippet to try to figure an answer to this guys question, optimization was pretty far from my mind. I mean, I cranked the original bit of code out in 15 minutes (or so) and had originally coded it so the methods would be recreated every time. I took another 5 minutes and optimized it so that only 1 method (the new one) would have to be concatenated to the "guts", which was then stuck in between the fixed "header" and "footer" of the class. It ran slowly, but I assumed that most of the overhead was in the actual code compilation (compiling classes of 15000 lines), and not a little bit of string concatenation. So I've re-written it using StringBuilder and timed both versions for 500 iterations. The original code did 500 iterations on my PC in 161.5222 seconds. This version:

            StringBuilder inner = new StringBuilder();
             
            DateTime startTime = DateTime.Now;
               
            for (Int32 i = 0; i < 500; i++) {
               inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                            " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                            " }" + Environment.NewLine);
             
               StringBuilder code = new StringBuilder(pre);
               code.Append(inner);
               code.Append(post);
               cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, code.ToString());
             
               if (cr.Errors.Count > 0)
                  break;
             
               methodCount++;
             
               if (methodCount % 10 == 0)
                  System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString());
            }
             
            TimeSpan ts = DateTime.Now - startTime;
             
            System.Console.WriteLine(ts.TotalSeconds);

            did it in 160.111. Much less that 1% slower. Not a string concatenation to be found, except for the line joins. Anything to add? Thanks. Sean

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            Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

            Anything to add?

            I'd agree that most time takes compilation, but the thing about string concatenation with + is that it's -unlike compilation - completely unnecessary. And I don't think that using StringBuilder for concatenating strings in big loops is optimalization - I think it's something you should do without thinking. btw you're still allocating 7 or so strings in

            inner.Append("      public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                            "         return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                            "      }" + Environment.NewLine);
            

            every cycle, that's 3500 unnecessary allocations :) Anyway, cool way to check for number of methods limit indeed.


            "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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            • S Sean Michael Murphy

              dnh wrote:

              No wonder, always use StringBuilder for string concatenation in a loop.

              Hmmm. Interesting. When I originally undertook to code this snippet to try to figure an answer to this guys question, optimization was pretty far from my mind. I mean, I cranked the original bit of code out in 15 minutes (or so) and had originally coded it so the methods would be recreated every time. I took another 5 minutes and optimized it so that only 1 method (the new one) would have to be concatenated to the "guts", which was then stuck in between the fixed "header" and "footer" of the class. It ran slowly, but I assumed that most of the overhead was in the actual code compilation (compiling classes of 15000 lines), and not a little bit of string concatenation. So I've re-written it using StringBuilder and timed both versions for 500 iterations. The original code did 500 iterations on my PC in 161.5222 seconds. This version:

              StringBuilder inner = new StringBuilder();
               
              DateTime startTime = DateTime.Now;
                 
              for (Int32 i = 0; i < 500; i++) {
                 inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                              " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                              " }" + Environment.NewLine);
               
                 StringBuilder code = new StringBuilder(pre);
                 code.Append(inner);
                 code.Append(post);
                 cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, code.ToString());
               
                 if (cr.Errors.Count > 0)
                    break;
               
                 methodCount++;
               
                 if (methodCount % 10 == 0)
                    System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString());
              }
               
              TimeSpan ts = DateTime.Now - startTime;
               
              System.Console.WriteLine(ts.TotalSeconds);

              did it in 160.111. Much less that 1% slower. Not a string concatenation to be found, except for the line joins. Anything to add? Thanks. Sean

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              Hi, while( true) { do { inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine); methodCount++; } while ((methodCount % 1000) != 0); cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner.ToString() + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString() + " Compiled successfuly ==> so not succed"); } System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount + " may be approximately to -1000 of method count"); I modified slightly your code as the above and executed, Its going on till 100000 ( above 1 lakh ), My machine got down, So I planned to run today night. Now I feeling, I shouldn't ask this question first of all ;) Thanks, Vythees -- modified at 5:24 Tuesday 3rd July, 2007 Thanks, Vythees

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                Hi, while( true) { do { inner.Append(" public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine + " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine + " }" + Environment.NewLine); methodCount++; } while ((methodCount % 1000) != 0); cr = icc.CompileAssemblyFromSource(cp, pre + inner.ToString() + post); if (cr.Errors.Count > 0) break; System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount.ToString() + " Compiled successfuly ==> so not succed"); } System.Console.WriteLine(methodCount + " may be approximately to -1000 of method count"); I modified slightly your code as the above and executed, Its going on till 100000 ( above 1 lakh ), My machine got down, So I planned to run today night. Now I feeling, I shouldn't ask this question first of all ;) Thanks, Vythees -- modified at 5:24 Tuesday 3rd July, 2007 Thanks, Vythees

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                Sean Michael Murphy
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                vytheeswaran wrote:

                Now I feeling, I shouldn't ask this question first of all

                Don't be crazy. I enjoyed thinking about it. Sean

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                • D DavidNohejl

                  Sean Michael Murphy wrote:

                  Anything to add?

                  I'd agree that most time takes compilation, but the thing about string concatenation with + is that it's -unlike compilation - completely unnecessary. And I don't think that using StringBuilder for concatenating strings in big loops is optimalization - I think it's something you should do without thinking. btw you're still allocating 7 or so strings in

                  inner.Append("      public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                  "         return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                  "      }" + Environment.NewLine);
                  

                  every cycle, that's 3500 unnecessary allocations :) Anyway, cool way to check for number of methods limit indeed.


                  "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  dnh wrote:

                  I think it's something you should do without thinking.

                  Never do anything without thinking.

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                    I let this run for an hour to get to 5000 before I gave up. Someone with more CPU and physical RAM than I have should run it and see where it ends...

                    using System;
                    using System.Collections.Generic;
                    using System.Text;
                    using System.CodeDom.Compiler;
                       
                    namespace MethodCountLimitFinder {
                       class Program {
                          static void Main(string[] args) {
                             Int32 methodCount = 1;
                             Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider cscp = new Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider();
                             ICodeCompiler icc = cscp.CreateCompiler();
                       
                             CompilerParameters cp = new CompilerParameters();
                             cp.GenerateExecutable = false;
                             cp.GenerateInMemory = true;
                       
                             CompilerResults cr = null;
                             string pre = "using System;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                      Environment.NewLine +
                                      "namespace Tester {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                      " class Test {" + Environment.NewLine;
                             string post = " }" + Environment.NewLine +
                                      "}";
                             string inner = string.Empty;
                       
                             while (true) {
                                inner += " public Int32 Method" + methodCount.ToString() + "() {" + Environment.NewLine +
                                         " return 42;" + Environment.NewLine +
                                         " }" + Envi

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      dnh wrote:

                      I think it's something you should do without thinking.

                      Never do anything without thinking.

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                      DavidNohejl
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                      I'll repeat: *Always* use string builder for concatenating strings in big loops. And I stay behind my claim. That being said, if that loop had about 5 iterations in 99,99% and much more in 0,01%, then you have to thinkg about it - IIRC StringBuilder would be slower. But if that task is something that must end in some very limited time or under very limited memory, you can't afford that 0,01% and even if performing worse in average, StringBuilder would be better choice.


                      "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

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                        In reference to A: error CS1034: Compiler limit exceeded: Line cannot exceed 16777214 characters The following succeeds at 1000000, and then I killed it while it tried 2000000.

                        namespace MethodCountLimitFinder
                        {
                        class Program
                        {
                        [System.STAThreadAttribute]
                        static void Main ( string [] args )
                        {
                        Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider provider =
                        new Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeProvider() ;

                                System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters cp = 
                                    new System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters() ;
                                cp.GenerateExecutable = false ;
                                cp.GenerateInMemory = true ;
                        
                                System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerResults cr = null ;
                        
                                System.Text.StringBuilder inner = 
                                    new System.Text.StringBuilder ( "namespace Tester { class Test {" ) ;
                        
                                int methodCount = 1000000 ;
                        
                                while ( true )
                                {
                                    System.Console.WriteLine ( methodCount ) ;
                                    
                                    for ( int i = methodCount ; i > 0 ; i-- )
                                    {
                                        inner.AppendFormat ( "void M{0}(){{}}\\n" , methodCount++ ) ;
                                    }
                                    
                                    inner.Append ( "}}" ) ;
                                    
                                    cr = provider.CompileAssemblyFromSource ( cp , inner.ToString() ) ;
                                    
                                    if ( cr.Errors.Count > 0 )
                                    {
                                        break ;
                                    }
                                    
                                    inner.Remove ( inner.Length - 2 , 2 ) ;
                                }
                        
                                foreach (  System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerError ce in cr.Errors )
                                {
                                    System.Console.WriteLine ( ce.ToString() ) ;
                                }
                            }
                        }
                        

                        }

                        -- modified at 21:11 Tuesday 3rd July, 2007 2000000 and counting...

                        C:\>maxi
                        1000000
                        2000000
                        4000000
                        error CS0001: Internal compiler error (0x80004005)
                        error CS0001: Internal compiler error (0xc0000017)
                        error CS0583: Internal Compiler Error (0xc0000005 at address 5A16E208): likely culprit is 'PARSE'.
                        error CS0586: Internal Compiler Error: stage 'PARSE'
                        error CS0587: Internal Compiler Error: stage 'PARSE'
                        error CS0587: Internal Compiler Error: stage 'BEGIN'

                        C:\>

                        -- modified at 1:56 Wednesday 4th July, 2007 After 3000000 I started hitting resource limits and timeouts. So now I simply have a program write a file with the code and compile it at the command lin

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

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                          Sean Michael Murphy
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                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          A) I don't think there's any need for including the NewLines. B) Why step by one? Why not double methodCount after each successful compile?

                          Both excellent suggestions. 1) The NewLines was so I could preview the code during the initial stages of development. Same reason for the indents. I like even my autogenerated code to be neat and tidy. :) 2) Yup. Could have done a more efficient search, but was more interested in starting the app to get the result. By the time I had written the original and the slightly optimized version, I had spent 45 minutes and was getting tired of the exercise. And I thought that The Answer would actually be fairly low (thought it would probably be 256, 512 or 1024 max). I was surprised to see it climb over 2K, but kept expecting it to fail shortly. It never did, so I published the snippet and the result and encouraged others to continue in the work. The application was really intended as a starting point for figuring out the answer to this guys question. It was not a fully peer reviewed, optimized, documented, shrink-wrapped product, as you and others have adequately demonstrated by now... Sean

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