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    Dave Sexton
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    An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007


    I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

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    But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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      An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007


      I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

      • • •

      But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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      Christian Graus
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      It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Note that it's an Irish company.:-D

        Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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          It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

          I disagree; you can certainly do that. I would be surprised, however, if the response was anything but derision and laughter...


          Software Zen: delete this;

          Fold With Us![^]

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            An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007


            I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

            • • •

            But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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            stevepqr
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            Put this in the bin with anti-gravity boots, xray goggles and perpetual motion machines - got to be a publicity stunt of some sort because its not free energy!

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            • C Christian Graus

              It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              Dave Sexton
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              'defy basic laws of physics'

              I think they're just using the phrase to hype the technology.

              Christian Graus wrote:

              Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax.

              I'm trying to figure that out myself.


              I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

              • • •

              But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

                I disagree; you can certainly do that. I would be surprised, however, if the response was anything but derision and laughter...


                Software Zen: delete this;

                Fold With Us![^]

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                Christian Graus
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                LOL - you are, of course, correct.

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                • D Dave Sexton

                  An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007


                  I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

                  • • •

                  But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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                  J4amieC
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                  Dave Sexton wrote:

                  Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips?

                  Sorry, was something not clear in the article (which was dated today)? Today the invention will go on public display for the first time with a live working demonstration to be streamed on the internet from 6pm tonight.

                  --- How to get answers to your questions[^]

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                    Dave Sexton wrote:

                    Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips?

                    Sorry, was something not clear in the article (which was dated today)? Today the invention will go on public display for the first time with a live working demonstration to be streamed on the internet from 6pm tonight.

                    --- How to get answers to your questions[^]

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                    Dave Sexton
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                    J4amieC wrote:

                    streamed on the internet

                    It's a big internet & no url was supplied. I checked their site & it said nothing about a stream tonight, I checked kinetica's site & found nothing there either. So, yeah, something was not clear.


                    I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

                    • • •

                    But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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                    • D Dave Sexton

                      An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007


                      I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

                      • • •

                      But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      I must admit to being sceptical. There have been many "free energy" claims in the past. The fact that they pitched straight to the media is concerning as well. More importantly, Steorn claims that while several PhDs have validated the practical application of the product, they won't go public because of the controversy.

                      Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                        Dario Solera
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

                        That deserves a 5.

                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                          J4amieC wrote:

                          streamed on the internet

                          It's a big internet & no url was supplied. I checked their site & it said nothing about a stream tonight, I checked kinetica's site & found nothing there either. So, yeah, something was not clear.


                          I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

                          • • •

                          But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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                          Duncan Edwards Jones
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                          have a look on the Wiki page[^] Given that external supply of energy by an electromagnetic source is a really easy cheat I would be beyond sceptical of this.

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                            It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                            SimulationofSai
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                            The universe is full of surprises, and we have a very very very limited understanding of it.....

                            SG

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                              I must admit to being sceptical. There have been many "free energy" claims in the past. The fact that they pitched straight to the media is concerning as well. More importantly, Steorn claims that while several PhDs have validated the practical application of the product, they won't go public because of the controversy.

                              Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                              Duncan Edwards Jones
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                              Perhaps they're not engineering PHDs? A friend of mine has a PHD and what she doesn't know about the workings of anything technical could fill so much storage as to cause a worldwide shortage :-)

                              '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                                An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007


                                I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.

                                • • •

                                But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson

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                                Matthew Faithfull
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                                I spent several months (while I 'worked' for a stupid company that failed to give me any work but expected me to turn up every day) researching this whole area and if I remeber rightly Steorn was just starting up 2 years ago when I moved on to do some real work. The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device[^], actaully a work of art in more ways than one. :-D I'll look into the links you posted as I'm on my sick bed today.

                                Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                  Put this in the bin with anti-gravity boots, xray goggles and perpetual motion machines - got to be a publicity stunt of some sort because its not free energy!

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                                  Rage
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                                  Steve_pqr wrote:

                                  anti-gravity boots, xray goggles

                                  Hey, you must have been living under a rock, I've been using these for several years to watch girls "dessous" without being noticed by levitating behind a tree for years.

                                  http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.

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                                    Steve_pqr wrote:

                                    anti-gravity boots, xray goggles

                                    Hey, you must have been living under a rock, I've been using these for several years to watch girls "dessous" without being noticed by levitating behind a tree for years.

                                    http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.

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                                    stevepqr
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                                    Hey, I was living under a rock - maybe thats why the boots didn't work?:-D

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                                      I spent several months (while I 'worked' for a stupid company that failed to give me any work but expected me to turn up every day) researching this whole area and if I remeber rightly Steorn was just starting up 2 years ago when I moved on to do some real work. The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device[^], actaully a work of art in more ways than one. :-D I'll look into the links you posted as I'm on my sick bed today.

                                      Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                      The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device

                                      Someone stood there and filmed this for 40mins??? Interesting device though (for the first few mins anyway) notice how the ball nudges the pendulums every time it goes round, its enclosed (in a vacuum to reduce friction?) hot lamps at the top are a heat source (thermal effects?) and the pendulum bobs are very close to the bottom plate under which you can't see (electromagnets?) Its probably a very low friction device - would be interesting to see how it is started up...

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                                        Perhaps they're not engineering PHDs? A friend of mine has a PHD and what she doesn't know about the workings of anything technical could fill so much storage as to cause a worldwide shortage :-)

                                        '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                                        Perhaps they're not engineering PHDs?

                                        I like the idea of somebody with a doctorate in fine arts or classical literature being asked to judge the validity of the technology.

                                        Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                        • S SimulationofSai

                                          The universe is full of surprises, and we have a very very very limited understanding of it.....

                                          SG

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Sure - you can defy our current understanding of the universe, I thought I said that. You just can't defy the way things *are*, you can only prove that we didn't understand it fully before.

                                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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