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  • B Bijesh

    I remember reading in Matt Ridley's excellent book 'Genome' that the last pope had also made a very similar statement.. That evolution is true, except that God 'introduced' something divine in humans at some point.

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    Paul Selormey
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    The point is who is the pope? Best regards, Paul.

    Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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    • P Paul Selormey

      Nothing strange from the dead "Virgin Mary" worshipper, just the parts are fitting together. I care very little about what he says, or stand for.

      "Our Earth is talking to us and we must listen to it and decipher its message if
      we want to survive,” he said.

      My desire is to listen to my Marker Maker, those who are His hears His voice. Best regards, Paul. -- modified at 6:20 Thursday 26th July, 2007

      Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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      _Damian S_
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      Paul Selormey wrote:

      My desire is to listen to my Marker, those who are His hears His voice.

      Is that like listening to your Nikko Pen? lol... I think you may mean "listen to my MAKER"

      ------------------------------------------- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Just bugger off and leave me alone!!

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        Paul Selormey wrote:

        My desire is to listen to my Marker, those who are His hears His voice.

        Is that like listening to your Nikko Pen? lol... I think you may mean "listen to my MAKER"

        ------------------------------------------- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Just bugger off and leave me alone!!

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        Paul Selormey
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        :laugh::laugh::laugh: Thanks for the correction. Best regards, Paul.

        Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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        • P Paul Selormey

          The point is who is the pope? Best regards, Paul.

          Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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          • P Paul Selormey

            Nothing strange from the dead "Virgin Mary" worshipper, just the parts are fitting together. I care very little about what he says, or stand for.

            "Our Earth is talking to us and we must listen to it and decipher its message if
            we want to survive,” he said.

            My desire is to listen to my Marker Maker, those who are His hears His voice. Best regards, Paul. -- modified at 6:20 Thursday 26th July, 2007

            Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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            Bradml
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            You forget that you personally have had no direct contact with your "Maker". You have simply heard his words through the mouth and pen of other humans. These words were no doubt interpreted multiple times since the first recording and what you are taught today is what man has interpreted to be the Christian Faith. As a Rabbi once preached at a B'nai Mitzvah I attended, the Torah (or Bible old testament) contains stories from god. These stories are guidlines for which should live our lives. They are to be interpreted by humans, as they were in the past, to try find their true meaning. My basic approach to this is: Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in shit if god is real. Now if you really want to we can take this discussion up at another location.


            Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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              You forget that you personally have had no direct contact with your "Maker". You have simply heard his words through the mouth and pen of other humans. These words were no doubt interpreted multiple times since the first recording and what you are taught today is what man has interpreted to be the Christian Faith. As a Rabbi once preached at a B'nai Mitzvah I attended, the Torah (or Bible old testament) contains stories from god. These stories are guidlines for which should live our lives. They are to be interpreted by humans, as they were in the past, to try find their true meaning. My basic approach to this is: Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in shit if god is real. Now if you really want to we can take this discussion up at another location.


              Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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              Paul Selormey
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              Bradml wrote:

              Now if you really want to we can take this discussion up at another location.

              Yeah, I will be grad for the opportunity. Which way? Best regards, Paul.

              Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                You forget that you personally have had no direct contact with your "Maker". You have simply heard his words through the mouth and pen of other humans. These words were no doubt interpreted multiple times since the first recording and what you are taught today is what man has interpreted to be the Christian Faith. As a Rabbi once preached at a B'nai Mitzvah I attended, the Torah (or Bible old testament) contains stories from god. These stories are guidlines for which should live our lives. They are to be interpreted by humans, as they were in the past, to try find their true meaning. My basic approach to this is: Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in shit if god is real. Now if you really want to we can take this discussion up at another location.


                Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                Rage
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                Bradml wrote:

                Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real

                Now that is an awesome statement.

                Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real - Bradml[^]

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                • B Bradml

                  Linkety[^] My thoughts are all there.


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                  Maximilien
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                  "There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live." ;P


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                  • P Paul Selormey

                    The point is who is the pope? Best regards, Paul.

                    Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                    Johan Lombaard
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                    The pope does not represent all christians, only catholics.

                    Johan Lombaard Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein

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                    • B Bradml

                      Linkety[^] My thoughts are all there.


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                      Rob Graham
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                      Jimmy Ropes is going to be really upset with you.

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                        Jimmy Ropes is going to be really upset with you.

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                        Bradml
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                        For reporting a story?


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                          Bradml wrote:

                          Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real

                          Now that is an awesome statement.

                          Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real - Bradml[^]

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                          Bradml
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                          Hey nice sig :cool:


                          Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                          • P Paul Selormey

                            Bradml wrote:

                            Now if you really want to we can take this discussion up at another location.

                            Yeah, I will be grad for the opportunity. Which way? Best regards, Paul.

                            Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                            Bradml
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                            Sorry for not replying sooner, Almighty Bob decided i was not to be notificated about this post. Just drop me an email and I will happily chat with you. I am going to get some sleep now but tomorrow I'll have some time for it.


                            Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                              Jimmy Ropes is going to be really upset with you.

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                              Troll

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                                For reporting a story?


                                Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                JimmyRopes
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                                Bradml wrote:

                                For reporting a story?

                                No, for the topic, but I see others have already expressed sentiments similar to mine that this is material suitable for the soapbox.

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                                • B Bradml

                                  Sorry for not replying sooner, Almighty Bob decided i was not to be notificated about this post. Just drop me an email and I will happily chat with you. I am going to get some sleep now but tomorrow I'll have some time for it.


                                  Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                  Paul Selormey
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                                  Same here, just got up and starting another day. I will try the email during the weekend. Best regards, Paul.

                                  Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                    Linkety[^] My thoughts are all there.


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                                    You know, this is definitely soap-box stuff, but I just have to weigh in here... a few years ago, one of my sons came as close to possible as losing an eye. I'm over it, he's over it, but it was a freak accident that forever altered his future. The hardest part for me was to see a 15 year old come to grips with something like this - it's probably harder than the injury itself. Anyway, in the process of learning all about the human eye, and it's incredible DESIGN, I have come to the conclusion that evolution is not a reasonable scientific theory. Period. The above statement is dogmatic, and I freely admit to it being so. And I will state that I am a Christian believer, but don't let that deter you. I am also an engineer in training, and there is no way I could ever conclude that the human eye could EVER evolve. It is simply too perfect. We look at a high end, state of the art motherboard, multiple layers, cooling systems, and we know that someone verybright and creative has designed this miracle of technology. Then we look at life and conclude it's random? Semi random? It isn't reasonable. just a different perspective. Now returning to randomly beating on my keyboard, hoping a functional piece of s/w emerges....

                                    Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. Overheard in a cubicle: "A project is just a bug under development." Seeking to rise above the intelligence of a one eared rabbit... Caught in a vortex of weirdness...

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                                      You know, this is definitely soap-box stuff, but I just have to weigh in here... a few years ago, one of my sons came as close to possible as losing an eye. I'm over it, he's over it, but it was a freak accident that forever altered his future. The hardest part for me was to see a 15 year old come to grips with something like this - it's probably harder than the injury itself. Anyway, in the process of learning all about the human eye, and it's incredible DESIGN, I have come to the conclusion that evolution is not a reasonable scientific theory. Period. The above statement is dogmatic, and I freely admit to it being so. And I will state that I am a Christian believer, but don't let that deter you. I am also an engineer in training, and there is no way I could ever conclude that the human eye could EVER evolve. It is simply too perfect. We look at a high end, state of the art motherboard, multiple layers, cooling systems, and we know that someone verybright and creative has designed this miracle of technology. Then we look at life and conclude it's random? Semi random? It isn't reasonable. just a different perspective. Now returning to randomly beating on my keyboard, hoping a functional piece of s/w emerges....

                                      Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. Overheard in a cubicle: "A project is just a bug under development." Seeking to rise above the intelligence of a one eared rabbit... Caught in a vortex of weirdness...

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                                      Bradml
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                                      I disagree with that simply because human knowledge does not span far enough to judge what is possible and what is not.


                                      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                        You know, this is definitely soap-box stuff, but I just have to weigh in here... a few years ago, one of my sons came as close to possible as losing an eye. I'm over it, he's over it, but it was a freak accident that forever altered his future. The hardest part for me was to see a 15 year old come to grips with something like this - it's probably harder than the injury itself. Anyway, in the process of learning all about the human eye, and it's incredible DESIGN, I have come to the conclusion that evolution is not a reasonable scientific theory. Period. The above statement is dogmatic, and I freely admit to it being so. And I will state that I am a Christian believer, but don't let that deter you. I am also an engineer in training, and there is no way I could ever conclude that the human eye could EVER evolve. It is simply too perfect. We look at a high end, state of the art motherboard, multiple layers, cooling systems, and we know that someone verybright and creative has designed this miracle of technology. Then we look at life and conclude it's random? Semi random? It isn't reasonable. just a different perspective. Now returning to randomly beating on my keyboard, hoping a functional piece of s/w emerges....

                                        Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. Overheard in a cubicle: "A project is just a bug under development." Seeking to rise above the intelligence of a one eared rabbit... Caught in a vortex of weirdness...

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                                        Incredible eye design? Roughly speaking - we have 24-hour day and during one third of it the human eye is pretty useless. Ergo – Thomas Edison invents a light bulb – both evolution and HUMAN design. That is incredible! Lots of people are using glasses because this “incredible design” is not working for them. An eagle can spot a fish in the water from hundreds of feet above – that is an evolution in action my friend. Why are you giving credit to God who was created by an ignorant human for sole purpose of keeping the flock in ignorance? “Thank God” for separation of churches!

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                                          You know, this is definitely soap-box stuff, but I just have to weigh in here... a few years ago, one of my sons came as close to possible as losing an eye. I'm over it, he's over it, but it was a freak accident that forever altered his future. The hardest part for me was to see a 15 year old come to grips with something like this - it's probably harder than the injury itself. Anyway, in the process of learning all about the human eye, and it's incredible DESIGN, I have come to the conclusion that evolution is not a reasonable scientific theory. Period. The above statement is dogmatic, and I freely admit to it being so. And I will state that I am a Christian believer, but don't let that deter you. I am also an engineer in training, and there is no way I could ever conclude that the human eye could EVER evolve. It is simply too perfect. We look at a high end, state of the art motherboard, multiple layers, cooling systems, and we know that someone verybright and creative has designed this miracle of technology. Then we look at life and conclude it's random? Semi random? It isn't reasonable. just a different perspective. Now returning to randomly beating on my keyboard, hoping a functional piece of s/w emerges....

                                          Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. Overheard in a cubicle: "A project is just a bug under development." Seeking to rise above the intelligence of a one eared rabbit... Caught in a vortex of weirdness...

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                                          charlieg
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                                          as I said, this is soapbox material. Your faith is apparently stronger than mine.

                                          Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. Overheard in a cubicle: "A project is just a bug under development." Seeking to rise above the intelligence of a one eared rabbit... Caught in a vortex of weirdness...

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