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All this for 20 bucks an hour...

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  • J Jerry Hammond

    Must have strong knowledge of the following: -Microsoft Windows Operating Systems from 98 to Vista -Microsoft Office Suites especially Outlook -Windows security model, including NTFS file system, User Rights, Services, and Active Directory objects -Configure and manage corporate MS server systems (Exchange, Active Directory, DNS/DHCP, print servers, system imaging, etc.) -Anti-Virus / Anti-spam / Anti-Spy ware services -Symantec Ghost is a must They have got to be kidding!

    "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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    realJSOP
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    Our sysadmin was complaining about this last week. Companies are looking for super admins, but aren't willing to pay the big bucks for qualified people. Just being capable with Active Directory is worth $20 an hour.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    • J Jerry Hammond

      Maybe. I've noticed that in the Salt Lake City area there has been an over all decline in salaries while at the same time there has been a marked increase in skill set requirements. Is it a trend? Maybe. It could also be an anomaly and will correct itself shortly when those positions remain unfilled.

      "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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      Kevin McFarlane
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      Jerry Hammond wrote:

      there has been an over all decline in salaries while at the same time there has been a marked increase in skill set requirements. Is it a trend?

      Yes. It's happening in the UK as well. The type of rate/skill set in your original post is occasionally seen in UK job boards too.

      Kevin

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      • J Jerry Hammond

        Ok... Not sore, per se, but I think it a shame that someone tries to justify a low ball salary and their reasoning is someone else is stupid/pathetic/desperate enough to accept it.

        "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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        I think Nish's point was perfectly valid and reasonable. You didn't include any details so it's anyone's guess where this is or what it pertains to. He's quite right though: if you can't think outside the U.S., think of it in U.S. terms, pick a tiny, poor town in a poor state and think about how much they are paying an in-house computer tech at a starting level wage.


        "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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          I think Nish's point was perfectly valid and reasonable. You didn't include any details so it's anyone's guess where this is or what it pertains to. He's quite right though: if you can't think outside the U.S., think of it in U.S. terms, pick a tiny, poor town in a poor state and think about how much they are paying an in-house computer tech at a starting level wage.


          "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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          Jerry Hammond
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          John Cardinal wrote:

          if you can't think outside the U.S.,

          Oh must I to be a good person?:(

          "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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          • J Jerry Hammond

            Must have strong knowledge of the following: -Microsoft Windows Operating Systems from 98 to Vista -Microsoft Office Suites especially Outlook -Windows security model, including NTFS file system, User Rights, Services, and Active Directory objects -Configure and manage corporate MS server systems (Exchange, Active Directory, DNS/DHCP, print servers, system imaging, etc.) -Anti-Virus / Anti-spam / Anti-Spy ware services -Symantec Ghost is a must They have got to be kidding!

            "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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            John M Drescher
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            This highly depends on location and how long you have been out of work. If the job was in my area and the person was out of work for long enough I can see them taking this $20/hr job being that this is not a horrible salary in Pittsburgh, PA. Although I agree anyone with these qualifications has to be desperate to accept that.

            John

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            • J Jerry Hammond

              John Cardinal wrote:

              if you can't think outside the U.S.,

              Oh must I to be a good person?:(

              "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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              I'll settle for open minded... ;)


              "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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                I'll settle for open minded... ;)


                "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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                Jerry Hammond
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                Well, you know how us knuckle-dragging, slope-headed Yank are...never think about anyone but ourselves.

                "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                • J Jerry Hammond

                  Now Nish, I said 'bucks', American slang representing a "U.S." dollar. Edit: To be sure, and knowing some will think me myopic, I'm really not concerned nor aware of the pay rates in India.

                  "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                  "bucks" is not only American slang and does not only mean "U.S. dollar".


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                  • J Jerry Hammond

                    Now Nish, I said 'bucks', American slang representing a "U.S." dollar. Edit: To be sure, and knowing some will think me myopic, I'm really not concerned nor aware of the pay rates in India.

                    "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    Jerry Hammond wrote:

                    'bucks', American slang representing a "U.S." dollar

                    Slowly and steadily, I think even in India, people use this to denote local currency. :)

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                    • J Jerry Hammond

                      Must have strong knowledge of the following: -Microsoft Windows Operating Systems from 98 to Vista -Microsoft Office Suites especially Outlook -Windows security model, including NTFS file system, User Rights, Services, and Active Directory objects -Configure and manage corporate MS server systems (Exchange, Active Directory, DNS/DHCP, print servers, system imaging, etc.) -Anti-Virus / Anti-spam / Anti-Spy ware services -Symantec Ghost is a must They have got to be kidding!

                      "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                      If I take the calculation from Nish, ~44 000 $ ~ 34000€, that is a very common salary for someone in the IT in France. I have a lot of friends who do not even earn that. I've recently tried to move jobs in France, 5 years experienced programmer, for a project leading, I was offered 32 000€ a year.

                      Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real - Bradml[^]

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                      • J Jerry Hammond

                        Must have strong knowledge of the following: -Microsoft Windows Operating Systems from 98 to Vista -Microsoft Office Suites especially Outlook -Windows security model, including NTFS file system, User Rights, Services, and Active Directory objects -Configure and manage corporate MS server systems (Exchange, Active Directory, DNS/DHCP, print servers, system imaging, etc.) -Anti-Virus / Anti-spam / Anti-Spy ware services -Symantec Ghost is a must They have got to be kidding!

                        "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                        ednrgc
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                        I got an email from a headhunter that asked if I was interested in a new Project Manager position. In the message was the rate for the position: $20/hr. Wow!!! Where do I sign up? :rolleyes:

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                        • J Jerry Hammond

                          Must have strong knowledge of the following: -Microsoft Windows Operating Systems from 98 to Vista -Microsoft Office Suites especially Outlook -Windows security model, including NTFS file system, User Rights, Services, and Active Directory objects -Configure and manage corporate MS server systems (Exchange, Active Directory, DNS/DHCP, print servers, system imaging, etc.) -Anti-Virus / Anti-spam / Anti-Spy ware services -Symantec Ghost is a must They have got to be kidding!

                          "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                          Roger Wright
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                          Jerry Hammond wrote:

                          They have got to be kidding!

                          Damn right! Nobody ever paid me anywhere near that much for knowing all that.

                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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