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  • E Erik Funkenbusch

    I doubt much of anyone remembers me. I used to be here quite a bit a number of years ago (go ahead, look at my status ;) ) If anyone remembers the Find Kent Sharkey contest.. I was a winner ;) Anyways... so I notice Code Project has changed quite a bit over the years. But I can't believe it's *STILL* written in classic ASP. Wow. I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago. I guess it was never meant to be. Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX. So what's the deal? Are we going to be stuck with these kludgy old forums forever?

    -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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    Josh Smith
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    CPhog[^]

    :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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    • E Erik Funkenbusch

      I doubt much of anyone remembers me. I used to be here quite a bit a number of years ago (go ahead, look at my status ;) ) If anyone remembers the Find Kent Sharkey contest.. I was a winner ;) Anyways... so I notice Code Project has changed quite a bit over the years. But I can't believe it's *STILL* written in classic ASP. Wow. I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago. I guess it was never meant to be. Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX. So what's the deal? Are we going to be stuck with these kludgy old forums forever?

      -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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      Gary Wheeler
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      Pssst. The ASP.NET version is on the way.


      Software Zen: delete this;

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        Pssst. The ASP.NET version is on the way.


        Software Zen: delete this;

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        Erik Funkenbusch
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        Sweet! Or is that "on the way" in programmer time? ;)

        -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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          CPhog[^]

          :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

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          Erik Funkenbusch
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          Lol, thanks. but I'm an old stogey. I like IE, and am not very fond of FF.

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            Pssst. The ASP.NET version is on the way.


            Software Zen: delete this;

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            Douglas Troy
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            Actually, I thought he was doing it all in Ruby... :rolleyes:


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              Actually, I thought he was doing it all in Ruby... :rolleyes:


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              Erik Funkenbusch
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              Ugh...

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                Actually, I thought he was doing it all in Ruby... :rolleyes:


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                WillemM
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                Don't do that, now you woke up the ruby dogs...

                WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog

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                  Don't do that, now you woke up the ruby dogs...

                  WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog

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                  Brady Kelly
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                  Roob let the dawgs out...:)

                  I do not believe they are right who say that the defects of famous men should be ignored. I think it is better that we should know them. Then, though we are conscious of having faults as glaring as theirs, we can believe that that is no hindrance to our achieving also something of their virtues. - W. Somerset Maugham My New Blog

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                  • D Douglas Troy

                    Actually, I thought he was doing it all in Ruby... :rolleyes:


                    :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                    Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Who's Ruby - and what's he doing with her.

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      Who's Ruby - and what's he doing with her.

                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      Scott Dorman
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                      :laugh: Nice!

                      Scott.


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                      • E Erik Funkenbusch

                        I doubt much of anyone remembers me. I used to be here quite a bit a number of years ago (go ahead, look at my status ;) ) If anyone remembers the Find Kent Sharkey contest.. I was a winner ;) Anyways... so I notice Code Project has changed quite a bit over the years. But I can't believe it's *STILL* written in classic ASP. Wow. I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago. I guess it was never meant to be. Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX. So what's the deal? Are we going to be stuck with these kludgy old forums forever?

                        -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                        I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

                        Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

                        Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                        Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

                        Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                          I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

                          Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

                          Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                          Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

                          Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Come on Chris. You know that this should be taken over to the Suggestions board.

                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                            I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

                            Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

                            Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                            Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

                            Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Fernando A Gomez F
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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            Yep - but it's like Vista:

                            X| Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff? :)


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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              Yep - but it's like Vista:

                              X| Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff? :)


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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                              Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff?

                              No. Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed. Only this time there's nothing for you to "hack" in the registry to switch it off.

                              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff?

                                No. Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed. Only this time there's nothing for you to "hack" in the registry to switch it off.

                                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                :laugh:


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                                • E Erik Funkenbusch

                                  I doubt much of anyone remembers me. I used to be here quite a bit a number of years ago (go ahead, look at my status ;) ) If anyone remembers the Find Kent Sharkey contest.. I was a winner ;) Anyways... so I notice Code Project has changed quite a bit over the years. But I can't believe it's *STILL* written in classic ASP. Wow. I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago. I guess it was never meant to be. Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX. So what's the deal? Are we going to be stuck with these kludgy old forums forever?

                                  -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                                  peterchen
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                                  I definitely remember your name - and that I didn't make a connection to the Kent hunt should be blamed on my memory rather than your impression. Welcome back! Since Gary couldn't keep his mouth shut, I probably won't be grilled for adding that it's in the "hunt down bugs like a dog and nail them" phase.


                                  We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                                    I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

                                    Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

                                    Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                                    Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

                                    Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                    Erik Funkenbusch
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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                                    Good point. I've always liked the way threading works on CP, with a few niggles. If you're in "Thread View", AJAX would help to keep the area of focus from jumping around so much. Message View and Topic View could be greatly improved with AJAX by retrieving all the message bodies of a thread when you click on any message of that thread (allowing fast DHTML expansion after the first click). So I guess you're right, message retrieval and display could be improved, not necessarily the threading model itself. Although, i'd like to see a mode similar to GMANE, with the threads in one pane, and the bodies visible in another. A lot less jumping around IMO.. but the old way works just as well.

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                                      I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

                                      Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

                                      Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                                      Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

                                      Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      code frog 0
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                                      I think if people want to complain about the site they ought to chip in and support it.;)

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                        Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff?

                                        No. Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed. Only this time there's nothing for you to "hack" in the registry to switch it off.

                                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                        El Corazon
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                                        Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                                        Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          Who's Ruby - and what's he doing with her.

                                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                          El Corazon
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                                          Shhhh.... The party was going great, and all the boys were feeling Mary. Mary had to leave, so they all jumped for Joy. But joy was too fast.... Ruby claimed to do EVERYTHING.... So everyone played with Ruby all night long.

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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