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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

    Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff?

    No. Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed. Only this time there's nothing for you to "hack" in the registry to switch it off.

    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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    Fernando A Gomez F
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    :laugh:


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    • C Chris Maunder

      Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

      I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

      Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

      Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

      Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

      Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Erik Funkenbusch
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

      Good point. I've always liked the way threading works on CP, with a few niggles. If you're in "Thread View", AJAX would help to keep the area of focus from jumping around so much. Message View and Topic View could be greatly improved with AJAX by retrieving all the message bodies of a thread when you click on any message of that thread (allowing fast DHTML expansion after the first click). So I guess you're right, message retrieval and display could be improved, not necessarily the threading model itself. Although, i'd like to see a mode similar to GMANE, with the threads in one pane, and the bodies visible in another. A lot less jumping around IMO.. but the old way works just as well.

      -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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      • E Erik Funkenbusch

        I doubt much of anyone remembers me. I used to be here quite a bit a number of years ago (go ahead, look at my status ;) ) If anyone remembers the Find Kent Sharkey contest.. I was a winner ;) Anyways... so I notice Code Project has changed quite a bit over the years. But I can't believe it's *STILL* written in classic ASP. Wow. I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago. I guess it was never meant to be. Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX. So what's the deal? Are we going to be stuck with these kludgy old forums forever?

        -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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        peterchen
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        I definitely remember your name - and that I didn't make a connection to the Kent hunt should be blamed on my memory rather than your impression. Welcome back! Since Gary couldn't keep his mouth shut, I probably won't be grilled for adding that it's in the "hunt down bugs like a dog and nail them" phase.


        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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        • C Chris Maunder

          Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

          I thought someone had been working on an ASP.NET port years ago

          Yep - but it's like Vista: we threw away all the code we had a year ago and started from scratch. The new site is in beta.

          Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

          Much has been said about keeping the, somewhat unorthodox, forum threading mechanisms on CP intact, but I think they could benefit greatly from AJAX.

          Not sure what you mean here. The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          code frog 0
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          I think if people want to complain about the site they ought to chip in and support it.;)

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

            Are you adding ribbons and fancy-but-useless stuff?

            No. Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed. Only this time there's nothing for you to "hack" in the registry to switch it off.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            El Corazon
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            Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

            Every time you try to do something, it pops up a dialog to ask if you approve of this action being performed

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              Who's Ruby - and what's he doing with her.

              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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              El Corazon
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              Shhhh.... The party was going great, and all the boys were feeling Mary. Mary had to leave, so they all jumped for Joy. But joy was too fast.... Ruby claimed to do EVERYTHING.... So everyone played with Ruby all night long.

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              • P peterchen

                I definitely remember your name - and that I didn't make a connection to the Kent hunt should be blamed on my memory rather than your impression. Welcome back! Since Gary couldn't keep his mouth shut, I probably won't be grilled for adding that it's in the "hunt down bugs like a dog and nail them" phase.


                We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                Erik Funkenbusch
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                Ahh.. Peter. Yes, I remember you as well. I was just looking at our profiles and you're 2 months older than I am here.. lol.. If you need any help testing let me know.

                -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                • E Erik Funkenbusch

                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  The threading model and how the messages are retrieved are independent. Which would you prefer to see changed: the order in which messages are listed or the method in which message bodies are retrieved/displayed or both?

                  Good point. I've always liked the way threading works on CP, with a few niggles. If you're in "Thread View", AJAX would help to keep the area of focus from jumping around so much. Message View and Topic View could be greatly improved with AJAX by retrieving all the message bodies of a thread when you click on any message of that thread (allowing fast DHTML expansion after the first click). So I guess you're right, message retrieval and display could be improved, not necessarily the threading model itself. Although, i'd like to see a mode similar to GMANE, with the threads in one pane, and the bodies visible in another. A lot less jumping around IMO.. but the old way works just as well.

                  -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                  RoswellNX
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                  AJAX would be a pain though, when surfing on a mobile...the JavaScript stuff is a problem even right now, but only getting to see the first post of each thread would be hell Roswell

                  "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                    AJAX would be a pain though, when surfing on a mobile...the JavaScript stuff is a problem even right now, but only getting to see the first post of each thread would be hell Roswell

                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                    Antonio VillaRaigosa
                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                    Erik Funkenbusch
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                    That's what Expanded mode is for.

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                    • E Erik Funkenbusch

                      That's what Expanded mode is for.

                      -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                      RoswellNX
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                      True, but all of the garbage at the top of a page maxes out the phone's RAM, so i rarely see more than half a thread in expanded mode, although i do use that mode on the mobile almost exclusively. Roswell

                      "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                      Antonio VillaRaigosa
                      City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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