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    PhilLenoir
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    A colleague just passed me this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/opinion/27havel.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin[^] I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject. I (personally) think that programmers have a special responsibility as we're smart (right?) and we tend to be relatively wealthy (I said "relatively!")

    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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      A colleague just passed me this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/opinion/27havel.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin[^] I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject. I (personally) think that programmers have a special responsibility as we're smart (right?) and we tend to be relatively wealthy (I said "relatively!")

      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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      QuiJohn
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      1 for your sig.


      Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency! -Emily Dickinson

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        A colleague just passed me this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/opinion/27havel.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin[^] I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject. I (personally) think that programmers have a special responsibility as we're smart (right?) and we tend to be relatively wealthy (I said "relatively!")

        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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        Diego Moita
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        Hey Phil, come to the Soapbox! There's a big party going on about Global Warming there. I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.


        Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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          Hey Phil, come to the Soapbox! There's a big party going on about Global Warming there. I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.


          Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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          El Corazon
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          Diego Moita wrote:

          everyone trolling and insulting each other.

          so, a normal/average day in the soapbox? now the group hug day, THAT was disturbing.

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Hey Phil, come to the Soapbox! There's a big party going on about Global Warming there. I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.


            Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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            Patrick Etc
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            Diego Moita wrote:

            I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.

            :laugh: :laugh: There have been no less than 4 troll fights in the past two days. It's hilarious.


            The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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              Diego Moita wrote:

              I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.

              :laugh: :laugh: There have been no less than 4 troll fights in the past two days. It's hilarious.


              The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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              Chris Meech
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              Wait until the weekend. Things usually heat up then. :)

              Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Stercorum pro cerebro habes. [Cicero]

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                Diego Moita wrote:

                everyone trolling and insulting each other.

                so, a normal/average day in the soapbox? now the group hug day, THAT was disturbing.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                Eytukan
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                Soapbox? where is it?:~ lol, I've abandoned it totally!


                Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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                  A colleague just passed me this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/opinion/27havel.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin[^] I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject. I (personally) think that programmers have a special responsibility as we're smart (right?) and we tend to be relatively wealthy (I said "relatively!")

                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                  Member 96
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                  I was driving through town a few days ago following a not too old Toyota. It had badly damaged piston rings and oily smoke was spewing out of the back of it. It stank, it clouded up the atmosphere all around the car when it was idling at the lights and streamed back behind it moving. It's obviously been smoking for a long time, it had smoke stains on the bumper. Climate change or not, I can't imagine people who would not feel some sort of guilt. Do what you want but don't harm others. PS: 5 for your sig. :)


                  Modo vincis, modo vinceris.

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                    I was driving through town a few days ago following a not too old Toyota. It had badly damaged piston rings and oily smoke was spewing out of the back of it. It stank, it clouded up the atmosphere all around the car when it was idling at the lights and streamed back behind it moving. It's obviously been smoking for a long time, it had smoke stains on the bumper. Climate change or not, I can't imagine people who would not feel some sort of guilt. Do what you want but don't harm others. PS: 5 for your sig. :)


                    Modo vincis, modo vinceris.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    John Cardinal wrote:

                    Do what you want but don't harm others.

                    Nowadays, there's always some jerk that takes offense at something and feels he has a right to curtail your behavior because of his offense. Marc

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                      John Cardinal wrote:

                      Do what you want but don't harm others.

                      Nowadays, there's always some jerk that takes offense at something and feels he has a right to curtail your behavior because of his offense. Marc

                      Thyme In The Country
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                      Marc, I thought that was called democracy? .... "Hey! Don't rob that Granny!" .... "You're curtailing my freedoms, dude!" So you think that it's OK to run a vehicle that spews out hydrocarbons. It happens to be againt the law on most of the planet. Did you even read the original article?

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                        Hey Phil, come to the Soapbox! There's a big party going on about Global Warming there. I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.


                        Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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                        PhilLenoir
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                        Never tried it. I usually end up here from Insider. I'll check it out thanks! Re you sig: I once read a Darwin Award Honourable mention about a guy and a vaccum cleaner!:doh:

                        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                          A colleague just passed me this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/opinion/27havel.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin[^] I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject. I (personally) think that programmers have a special responsibility as we're smart (right?) and we tend to be relatively wealthy (I said "relatively!")

                          Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                          TheGeneral69
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                          the media outlets are benevolent organizations with no other agenda than to inform humanity with the truth.

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                            A colleague just passed me this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/opinion/27havel.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin[^] I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject. I (personally) think that programmers have a special responsibility as we're smart (right?) and we tend to be relatively wealthy (I said "relatively!")

                            Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                            John M Drescher
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                            PhilLenoir wrote:

                            I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject.

                            I completely disagree but this is soapbox material so my discussion ends at that.

                            John

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                              Hey Phil, come to the Soapbox! There's a big party going on about Global Warming there. I mean, a party in the Soapbox style: everyone trolling and insulting each other.


                              Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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                              Paul Conrad
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                              I agree, it's the SB for this topic :rolleyes:

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                                Marc, I thought that was called democracy? .... "Hey! Don't rob that Granny!" .... "You're curtailing my freedoms, dude!" So you think that it's OK to run a vehicle that spews out hydrocarbons. It happens to be againt the law on most of the planet. Did you even read the original article?

                                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                lost in transition
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                                Trolling down the river.:)


                                God Bless, Jason
                                I am not perfect but I try to be better than those before me. So those who come after me will be better than I am.

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                                  PhilLenoir wrote:

                                  I thought that it was one of the best essays I've ever read on the subject.

                                  I completely disagree but this is soapbox material so my discussion ends at that.

                                  John

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                                  PhilLenoir
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                                  John, If two people always agree with each other then at least one of them isn't thinking. Phil

                                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                    Marc, I thought that was called democracy? .... "Hey! Don't rob that Granny!" .... "You're curtailing my freedoms, dude!" So you think that it's OK to run a vehicle that spews out hydrocarbons. It happens to be againt the law on most of the planet. Did you even read the original article?

                                    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    PhilLenoir wrote:

                                    Did you even read the original article?

                                    I think you missed the point. I wasn't criticizing John for being upset at the guy's oil tailpipe, I was making a comment that nowadays it seems all you have to do is breath and someone gets offended. Marc

                                    Thyme In The Country
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