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  • M Mircea Grelus

    So I've installed Vista in a virtual machine, and a strange thing is happening: I cannot type single quotes. It will simply not display them. Unless I type 2 times and double quotes will be displayed then. Is there a setting in Vista for disabling this? Or what the heck is happening. I've been playing with Visual Studio 2008 and this "feature" is driving me mad. Oh, and this is happening everywhere, notepad, VS 2008, run command, everywhere. I've googled but to no success. Any ideas?

    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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    Russell Morris
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    Are you sure it's not some screwy bit of resolution scaling or other bizarre font-rendering effect? I used to detest running SQLServer 2000's script editor because, for whatever reason, apostrophes and commas simply didn't render. If I copied all of the text and pasted it into notepad, there they were, but they'd never show up in the script editor itself. Open up notepad on your vista box, type in a single apostrophe, save the file, and open it on your guest OS (that you know doesn't have this problem). If the apostrophe is there, you're good to go. If it's not there, then I have absolutely no idea what could possibly be happening... Do you have your keyboard settings set with a typical layout and locale?

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      Are you sure it's not some screwy bit of resolution scaling or other bizarre font-rendering effect? I used to detest running SQLServer 2000's script editor because, for whatever reason, apostrophes and commas simply didn't render. If I copied all of the text and pasted it into notepad, there they were, but they'd never show up in the script editor itself. Open up notepad on your vista box, type in a single apostrophe, save the file, and open it on your guest OS (that you know doesn't have this problem). If the apostrophe is there, you're good to go. If it's not there, then I have absolutely no idea what could possibly be happening... Do you have your keyboard settings set with a typical layout and locale?

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      Mircea Grelus
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      Nope. Typed once, saved the file; in the properties windows it is displayed as having 0 bytes. Copied anyway to the host OS, opened => nothing displayed. And then the strangest thing: opened the file again in Vista (after being closed) and typed another quote. Surprise. TWO quotes displayed. :wtf: This is madness! Madness I say!

      Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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        I'd try a re-install, I'm using vista too and they work fine.


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        Mircea Grelus
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        Just out of curiosity, what version of Vista do you have installed? I'm using Vista Enterprise.

        Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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          Nope. Typed once, saved the file; in the properties windows it is displayed as having 0 bytes. Copied anyway to the host OS, opened => nothing displayed. And then the strangest thing: opened the file again in Vista (after being closed) and typed another quote. Surprise. TWO quotes displayed. :wtf: This is madness! Madness I say!

          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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          Russell Morris
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          Mircea Grelus wrote:

          This is madness! Madness I say!

          Yikes! It almost sounds like, for whatever reason, Vista is interpreting the apostrophe as some sort of begin-chord indicator. I'm sorry, but I don't know what to tell you. It might be worth posting on an MSDN forum.

          -- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

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          • M Mircea Grelus

            Just out of curiosity, what version of Vista do you have installed? I'm using Vista Enterprise.

            Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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            Jonathan Darka
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            Vista Ultimate on two separate machines. regards,


            Jonathan Wilkes Darka[Xanya.net]

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            • R Russell Morris

              Mircea Grelus wrote:

              This is madness! Madness I say!

              Yikes! It almost sounds like, for whatever reason, Vista is interpreting the apostrophe as some sort of begin-chord indicator. I'm sorry, but I don't know what to tell you. It might be worth posting on an MSDN forum.

              -- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

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              Fernando A Gomez F
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              Mmm... that got me thinking... in my keyboard, the diacritic mark ´ usually doesn't appear unless I type it with a vowel (i.e. á). But that's only because my keyboard is configured to work with spanish language. If I change these settings, the ´ mark appears right away. Couldn't be something like this, that you have some obscure keyboard configuration? I mean, not only the language setting, but also the encoding?


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              • M Mircea Grelus

                So I've installed Vista in a virtual machine, and a strange thing is happening: I cannot type single quotes. It will simply not display them. Unless I type 2 times and double quotes will be displayed then. Is there a setting in Vista for disabling this? Or what the heck is happening. I've been playing with Visual Studio 2008 and this "feature" is driving me mad. Oh, and this is happening everywhere, notepad, VS 2008, run command, everywhere. I've googled but to no success. Any ideas?

                Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                Mladen Jankovic
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                Are you absolutely sure that you use English as keyboard input language? :~

                Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                • M Mircea Grelus

                  Nope. Typed once, saved the file; in the properties windows it is displayed as having 0 bytes. Copied anyway to the host OS, opened => nothing displayed. And then the strangest thing: opened the file again in Vista (after being closed) and typed another quote. Surprise. TWO quotes displayed. :wtf: This is madness! Madness I say!

                  Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                  NormDroid
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                  Quote madness, my thought was a locale problem or setting.

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                    Mmm... that got me thinking... in my keyboard, the diacritic mark ´ usually doesn't appear unless I type it with a vowel (i.e. á). But that's only because my keyboard is configured to work with spanish language. If I change these settings, the ´ mark appears right away. Couldn't be something like this, that you have some obscure keyboard configuration? I mean, not only the language setting, but also the encoding?


                    Hope is the negation of reality - Raistlin Majere

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                    Mircea Grelus
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                    :wtf: My keyboard was set up as English (United Kingdom). When switching it to English (United States) it all works ok. I don't get it though, does the UK English has any special characters like the ones you mentioned? I'm not aware of that.

                    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                    • M Mircea Grelus

                      :wtf: My keyboard was set up as English (United Kingdom). When switching it to English (United States) it all works ok. I don't get it though, does the UK English has any special characters like the ones you mentioned? I'm not aware of that.

                      Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                      El Corazon
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                      ahhhh, but MS and UK are currently in a tizzy. you might have accidentally stepped on the battlefield... ;)

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      • M Mircea Grelus

                        So I've installed Vista in a virtual machine, and a strange thing is happening: I cannot type single quotes. It will simply not display them. Unless I type 2 times and double quotes will be displayed then. Is there a setting in Vista for disabling this? Or what the heck is happening. I've been playing with Visual Studio 2008 and this "feature" is driving me mad. Oh, and this is happening everywhere, notepad, VS 2008, run command, everywhere. I've googled but to no success. Any ideas?

                        Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                        James Brown
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                        If you turned your monitor upside-down you could use commas instead? Like this ,,,,,,,,,,,, just a thought..


                        http://www.catch22.net

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                          If you turned your monitor upside-down you could use commas instead? Like this ,,,,,,,,,,,, just a thought..


                          http://www.catch22.net

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                          Mircea Grelus
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                          :doh: stupid me. And here I was ... complaining.

                          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                            :doh: stupid me. And here I was ... complaining.

                            Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                            :-D


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                            • M Mircea Grelus

                              :wtf: My keyboard was set up as English (United Kingdom). When switching it to English (United States) it all works ok. I don't get it though, does the UK English has any special characters like the ones you mentioned? I'm not aware of that.

                              Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                              Fernando A Gomez F
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                              Mircea Grelus wrote:

                              does the UK English has any special characters like the ones you mentioned?

                              Well, I'm not aware of something like that. A bug perhaps? Maybe any UK citizen here can explain that...


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                              • M Mircea Grelus

                                :doh: stupid me. And here I was ... complaining.

                                Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                El Corazon
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                                Mircea Grelus wrote:

                                stupid me. And here I was ... complaining

                                It justifies developing in Australia, then you your monitor would be upside down from where it is now, so it should work. ;) See if your boss goes for it!

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  Mircea Grelus wrote:

                                  stupid me. And here I was ... complaining

                                  It justifies developing in Australia, then you your monitor would be upside down from where it is now, so it should work. ;) See if your boss goes for it!

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  Mircea Grelus
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                                  I'd take a development job in Australia any day! Be it developing sideways, backwards, downwards, crosswords, either as a reference to Australia or any other country ... Any offer? :) :-> man I love the summer and seaside.

                                  Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                  • M Mircea Grelus

                                    So I've installed Vista in a virtual machine, and a strange thing is happening: I cannot type single quotes. It will simply not display them. Unless I type 2 times and double quotes will be displayed then. Is there a setting in Vista for disabling this? Or what the heck is happening. I've been playing with Visual Studio 2008 and this "feature" is driving me mad. Oh, and this is happening everywhere, notepad, VS 2008, run command, everywhere. I've googled but to no success. Any ideas?

                                    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    Apparently it's a ploy by Microsoft to p*ss off people like me who have Irish surnames. The alternative explanation is that it's there as part of the security upgrade - no more SQL Injection attacks.

                                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                      Apparently it's a ploy by Microsoft to p*ss off people like me who have Irish surnames. The alternative explanation is that it's there as part of the security upgrade - no more SQL Injection attacks.

                                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                      Mircea Grelus
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                                      :laugh: That must be a bug though. Cause if I press ' and then o it ends up as ó; or " and o => ö. Though I doubt UK English has these characters.

                                      Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                        :laugh: That must be a bug though. Cause if I press ' and then o it ends up as ó; or " and o => ö. Though I doubt UK English has these characters.

                                        Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Ah - it sounds to me as though the apostrophe is acting as a sticky key. In other words, you press the apostrophe and then you can use it to create an accented character.

                                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                          Ah - it sounds to me as though the apostrophe is acting as a sticky key. In other words, you press the apostrophe and then you can use it to create an accented character.

                                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                          Mircea Grelus
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                                          Exactly. That would make sense for a language that uses these characters. But UK English? Come on ... it doesn't have them. Or does it? (old dialects or something?)

                                          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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