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  • J Josh Knox

    A recent job opening said they wanted systems development exp rather that application development. Can someone clarify the differences for me? Josh Knox that-guy.net


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    Chris Losinger
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    systems = boring


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      systems = boring


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      Chris Losinger wrote: systems = boring Nope! I disagree ... (system = BIG FUN) AND (system = very late hours debugging the damn zillion threads and synch problems) Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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      • J Josh Knox

        A recent job opening said they wanted systems development exp rather that application development. Can someone clarify the differences for me? Josh Knox that-guy.net


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        Well , you have the dull app job and the real fun of programming threads, ipc mechanisms , protocols and hardware and byte stuff ! Come back such lovely times :(( YEAH ! System Programming RULES ! :-D Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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        • J Joao Vaz

          Chris Losinger wrote: systems = boring Nope! I disagree ... (system = BIG FUN) AND (system = very late hours debugging the damn zillion threads and synch problems) Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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          Joao Vaz wrote: (system = very late hours debugging the damn zillion threads and synch problems) Saaaaay, I didn't know you were sneaking in after hours debugging my code... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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          • J Josh Knox

            A recent job opening said they wanted systems development exp rather that application development. Can someone clarify the differences for me? Josh Knox that-guy.net


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            Christopher Duncan
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            Application development generates GPFs. Systems development generates BSODs. Questions? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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              Josh Knox wrote: they wanted systems development exp rather that application development. Can someone clarify the differences for me? Well what the other two guys said could both be true, but I would think the second one is probably more feasible. You get Function Developers, Class Developers, Namespace Developers, Application Developers and System Developers. (well, not really, but this is just an illustration.) So a function developer just develops individual functions. The class guy puts them together into working classes while the namespace guy puts the classes together. Eventually you end up with an application which is put together by an Application developer. The systems developer basically thinks about how various apps work together and how another new app can be integrated into the existing structure created by the other apps. Basically. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Brian Delahunty wrote: one of my boys on the inside instead of the outside benjymous wrote: All the male CP inhabitants cross their legs in unison

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              Paul Watson wrote: The systems developer basically thinks about how various apps work together and how another new app can be integrated into the existing structure But, even beyond mere software, a systems developer may also have to include hardware specifications and business processes in the overall approach. Unfortunately, to some, there is more to getting a job done than just writing software. Dave "You can say that again." -- Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

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              • P Paul Watson

                Josh Knox wrote: they wanted systems development exp rather that application development. Can someone clarify the differences for me? Well what the other two guys said could both be true, but I would think the second one is probably more feasible. You get Function Developers, Class Developers, Namespace Developers, Application Developers and System Developers. (well, not really, but this is just an illustration.) So a function developer just develops individual functions. The class guy puts them together into working classes while the namespace guy puts the classes together. Eventually you end up with an application which is put together by an Application developer. The systems developer basically thinks about how various apps work together and how another new app can be integrated into the existing structure created by the other apps. Basically. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Brian Delahunty wrote: one of my boys on the inside instead of the outside benjymous wrote: All the male CP inhabitants cross their legs in unison

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                Paul Watson wrote: You get Function Developers, Class Developers, Namespace Developers, Application Developers and System Developers. (well, not really, but this is just an illustration.) That is a rather diverse listing of developers, I think you forgot Assembly Developer. :) Nick Parker

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                  Application development generates GPFs. Systems development generates BSODs. Questions? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                  That is the single most lucid definition of the two terms I've heard in 20+ years of programming:-) I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!

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                    Application development generates GPFs. Systems development generates BSODs. Questions? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                    that needs to be on a coffee mug, or a cube sticker, or a t-shirt, or somebody's sig -John

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      Joao Vaz wrote: (system = very late hours debugging the damn zillion threads and synch problems) Saaaaay, I didn't know you were sneaking in after hours debugging my code... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote: Saaaaay, I didn't know you were sneaking in after hours debugging my code... LOL :laugh: Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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