Development Laptop
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Just my opinion mind, but I'd go for something with 17"+ of screen real estate. I have an Inspiron 9200 which does a reasonable job with VS 2005 and SQL Server running in the background, although I did upgrade it to 2 gigs of ram and I went for 7200 rpm HDD (almost unheard of in Laptop circles) as battery power/conservation were not that vital to me. I expect the newer dual core models are even better.
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
martin_hughes wrote:
almost unheard of in Laptop circles
How many years ago was that? My MBP came with a 7200rpm.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
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Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
I'd recommend the MacBook Pro series from Apple. Runs Windows nicely. p.s. What the heck is up with the voting on the forums? Red and grey all over, worse than a soggy newspaper.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
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The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who can not code at all!
Thanks for all the fish wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who can not code at all!
Nurse. Fishy here's off his meds again. Dose him up; STAT!
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
Core2 duo, fastest that you can afford 17" or better, don't skimp on the resolution if you can afford it. 7200RPM drives, don't skimp if you don't have to. If you must go 5400RPM for battery life, go hybrid for slightly better speed. Buy an extra battery, no really. If you want a dev laptop you end up with lowered battery life and although you will rarely use the batter, usually using wall power (being mobile, not necessarily wireless dev environment), but you will use it on occasions and then you will be glad you have it. If you know you will never use it, drop the extra, but otherwise it comes in handy on the rare occassions of battery only. At work we buy alienware, though the price is expensive, partly for the name. Alienware is now owned by Dell, so they are really Dell now. Only difference with Alienware tends to be higher resolutions, premium components and detailed testing. Alienware sells to the gaming crowd, not dev, so you can even have the tester play your favorite game on your laptop and give you a report on how well it will perform. For the gaming crowd that is great for the dev folks, not so much. Though if you think right and pick your components you can get an Alienware equivalent from about half the laptop vendors.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Just my opinion mind, but I'd go for something with 17"+ of screen real estate. I have an Inspiron 9200 which does a reasonable job with VS 2005 and SQL Server running in the background, although I did upgrade it to 2 gigs of ram and I went for 7200 rpm HDD (almost unheard of in Laptop circles) as battery power/conservation were not that vital to me. I expect the newer dual core models are even better.
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
Thanks Martin for your comments :) Regards,
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
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martin_hughes wrote:
almost unheard of in Laptop circles
How many years ago was that? My MBP came with a 7200rpm.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
December 2004, if memory serves - the stock HDD was 4800 RPM!
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
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I'd recommend the MacBook Pro series from Apple. Runs Windows nicely. p.s. What the heck is up with the voting on the forums? Red and grey all over, worse than a soggy newspaper.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
Paul Watson wrote:
Red and grey all over, worse than a soggy newspaper
someone bleed on your newspaper? I must live in a small town, we still do B&W! of course this reminds me of an old series of jokes from growing up in the dark ages.... what's black and white and red all over? ( a newspaper: spelled 'read' all over). Alternatives: A skunk walking through red paint. A zebra with a nose bleed. The CP lounge (also works with the spelling 'read' for a double entendre when the univoter is around)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Core2 duo, fastest that you can afford 17" or better, don't skimp on the resolution if you can afford it. 7200RPM drives, don't skimp if you don't have to. If you must go 5400RPM for battery life, go hybrid for slightly better speed. Buy an extra battery, no really. If you want a dev laptop you end up with lowered battery life and although you will rarely use the batter, usually using wall power (being mobile, not necessarily wireless dev environment), but you will use it on occasions and then you will be glad you have it. If you know you will never use it, drop the extra, but otherwise it comes in handy on the rare occassions of battery only. At work we buy alienware, though the price is expensive, partly for the name. Alienware is now owned by Dell, so they are really Dell now. Only difference with Alienware tends to be higher resolutions, premium components and detailed testing. Alienware sells to the gaming crowd, not dev, so you can even have the tester play your favorite game on your laptop and give you a report on how well it will perform. For the gaming crowd that is great for the dev folks, not so much. Though if you think right and pick your components you can get an Alienware equivalent from about half the laptop vendors.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El, thanks for the reply. Helps alot. Regards,
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
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Thanks for all the fish wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who can not code at all!
Nurse. Fishy here's off his meds again. Dose him up; STAT!
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
did someone order the psychodelic cactus... peyote for the fish!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Paul Watson wrote:
Red and grey all over, worse than a soggy newspaper
someone bleed on your newspaper? I must live in a small town, we still do B&W! of course this reminds me of an old series of jokes from growing up in the dark ages.... what's black and white and red all over? ( a newspaper: spelled 'read' all over). Alternatives: A skunk walking through red paint. A zebra with a nose bleed. The CP lounge (also works with the spelling 'read' for a double entendre when the univoter is around)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
of course this reminds me of an old series of jokes from growing up in the dark ages.... what's black and white and red all over?
Exactly the joke I was thinking of :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
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Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
What is with 17" laptops? I find even a 15" too big. Your battery life will suffer, your back will suffer, you have to find more room (planes, trains and automobiles etc.) and you are invariably forced to carry it around in a Humvee sized backpack. I have two 19" monitors at work that I plug my laptop into everyday and do the bulk of my work on. Everywhere else the 15" screen suffices and makes it easy to slip into a thin neoprene case that can tuck under my arm and into seat-back pockets. If you work at home then have some monitors at home. Ideally I'd like a 12"/13" screen to make it even more portable.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
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Thanks for all the fish wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who can not code at all!
Nurse. Fishy here's off his meds again. Dose him up; STAT!
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Fishy here's off his meds again.
Or maybe bit a hallucinogenic baited hook?
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
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El, thanks for the reply. Helps alot. Regards,
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
I am sure nobody has pointed it out before, as you would have changed it, but...
Programm3r wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's
To Paraphrase Douglas Adams... THAN C Programmers sounds more grammatically correct than That C Pro...etc I understand it is a typo, not a thinko, so I will not burn too deeply! :-D
------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.
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The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who can not code at all!
Thanks for all the fish wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers
She sells C Shells down by the C-Store.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Thanks for all the fish wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers
She sells C Shells down by the C-Store.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Is the store next door c++? Is the music store across the road from it C#? Is the last store on the Mall C Omega? Is the Store that failed the Grade D? ============================================= PS, is there an ALT code for an Omega? and if so, what is it? Thanks!
------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.
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What is with 17" laptops? I find even a 15" too big. Your battery life will suffer, your back will suffer, you have to find more room (planes, trains and automobiles etc.) and you are invariably forced to carry it around in a Humvee sized backpack. I have two 19" monitors at work that I plug my laptop into everyday and do the bulk of my work on. Everywhere else the 15" screen suffices and makes it easy to slip into a thin neoprene case that can tuck under my arm and into seat-back pockets. If you work at home then have some monitors at home. Ideally I'd like a 12"/13" screen to make it even more portable.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Andy Brummer wrote:
Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.
"It is allowed on all Hands, that the primitive way of breaking Eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger End: But his present Majesty's Grand-father, while he was a Boy, going to eat an Egg, and breaking it according to the ancient Practice, happened to cut one of his Fingers. Whereupon the Emperor his Father published an Edict, commanding all his Subjects, upon great Penaltys, to break the smaller End of their Eggs. The People so highly resented this Law, that our Histories tell us there have been six Rebellions raised on that account; wherein one Emperor lost his Life, and another his Crown. These civil Commotions were constantly fomented by the Monarchs of Blefuscu; and when they were quelled, the Exiles always fled for Refuge to that Empire. It is computed, that eleven thousand Persons have, at several times, suffered Death, rather than submit to break their Eggs at the smaller End. Many hundred large Volumes have been published upon this Controversy: But the books of the Big-Endians have been long forbidden, and the whole Party rendered incapable by Law of holding Employments. During the Course of these Troubles, the Emperors of Blefuscu did frequently expostulate by their Ambassadors, accusing us of making a Schism in Religion, by offending against a fundamental Doctrine of our great Prophet Lustrog, in the fifty-fourth Chapter of the Brundrecal (which is their Alcoran.) This, however, is thought to be a meer Strain upon the Text: For the Words are these: That all true Believers shall break their Eggs at the convenient End: and which is the convenient End, seems, in my humble Opinion, to be left to every Man's Conscience, or at least in the power of the Chief Magistrate to determine." :)
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
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"It is allowed on all Hands, that the primitive way of breaking Eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger End: But his present Majesty's Grand-father, while he was a Boy, going to eat an Egg, and breaking it according to the ancient Practice, happened to cut one of his Fingers. Whereupon the Emperor his Father published an Edict, commanding all his Subjects, upon great Penaltys, to break the smaller End of their Eggs. The People so highly resented this Law, that our Histories tell us there have been six Rebellions raised on that account; wherein one Emperor lost his Life, and another his Crown. These civil Commotions were constantly fomented by the Monarchs of Blefuscu; and when they were quelled, the Exiles always fled for Refuge to that Empire. It is computed, that eleven thousand Persons have, at several times, suffered Death, rather than submit to break their Eggs at the smaller End. Many hundred large Volumes have been published upon this Controversy: But the books of the Big-Endians have been long forbidden, and the whole Party rendered incapable by Law of holding Employments. During the Course of these Troubles, the Emperors of Blefuscu did frequently expostulate by their Ambassadors, accusing us of making a Schism in Religion, by offending against a fundamental Doctrine of our great Prophet Lustrog, in the fifty-fourth Chapter of the Brundrecal (which is their Alcoran.) This, however, is thought to be a meer Strain upon the Text: For the Words are these: That all true Believers shall break their Eggs at the convenient End: and which is the convenient End, seems, in my humble Opinion, to be left to every Man's Conscience, or at least in the power of the Chief Magistrate to determine." :)
"On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.
Gulliver's Travels? is that so?
------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.
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Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
I just got a new customized HP about a month ago. HP Pavilion dv9500z customizable Notebook PC AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-66 (2.3 GHz, 512KB+512KB L2 Cache ) 17.0" WSXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050) 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 802.11a/b/g/n (draft 802.11n) WLAN and Bluetooth 2x 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
only two letters away from being an asset
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I am sure nobody has pointed it out before, as you would have changed it, but...
Programm3r wrote:
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's
To Paraphrase Douglas Adams... THAN C Programmers sounds more grammatically correct than That C Pro...etc I understand it is a typo, not a thinko, so I will not burn too deeply! :-D
------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.
Hi Dalek, Strange this is that I have used this sig for the past year and nine months, and now all of a sudden everyone is making a big fuss over my sig, but no worries, I won't become a cry baby over it, just wanted to point out some facts. Regards,
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^
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I just got a new customized HP about a month ago. HP Pavilion dv9500z customizable Notebook PC AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-66 (2.3 GHz, 512KB+512KB L2 Cache ) 17.0" WSXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050) 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 802.11a/b/g/n (draft 802.11n) WLAN and Bluetooth 2x 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
only two letters away from being an asset
Being an AMD man myself ... I like the specs above :) Regards,
The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^