Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. For the English Language masters...

For the English Language masters...

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
question
27 Posts 14 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

    Thank you. :)

    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
    Tech Gossips
    A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

    M Offline
    M Offline
    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    Hey no worries :)

    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      I've always been right on instinct

      :) Thank you.

      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
      Tech Gossips
      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

      R Offline
      R Offline
      Rajesh R Subramanian
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      Ravel H Joyce wrote:

      I've always been right on instincg

      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

      Thank you.

      :confused:

      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. ...formerly known as brahmma Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S soap brain

        I've never personally needed to learn any rules about this - I've always been right on instinct ever since I was very little. However, this looks like it knows what it's talking about.[^] At the end, it says, "Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither."

        "What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."

        V Offline
        V Offline
        Vikram A Punathambekar
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

        I've never personally needed to learn any rules about this - I've always been right on instinct ever since I was very little.

        Same here, and my family doesn't even speak English (except for my younger brother, but I don't speak English with him).

        Cheers, Vikram.


        "If a trend is truly global, then that trend ought to be visible across ANY subset of that data" - fat_boy

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • H hayrob

          "i" before "e" except after "c". Correct: believe, receive

          B Offline
          B Offline
          benjymous
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          Sadly this rule isn't sufficient either, to be honest, you could try in vein to work out standardised rules - The English language is somewhat weird and inconsistant, probably due to the kaleidoscopic way it's been merged from various sources, since ancient times most of our European neighbours have invaded at some point or other, and the language reflects that with many foreign influenced words. Science tends not to play by the rules either. You could probably do with some caffeine by now, I'm sure!

          -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

          M C 2 Replies Last reply
          0
          • B benjymous

            Sadly this rule isn't sufficient either, to be honest, you could try in vein to work out standardised rules - The English language is somewhat weird and inconsistant, probably due to the kaleidoscopic way it's been merged from various sources, since ancient times most of our European neighbours have invaded at some point or other, and the language reflects that with many foreign influenced words. Science tends not to play by the rules either. You could probably do with some caffeine by now, I'm sure!

            -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

            M Offline
            M Offline
            moon_stick
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            I'm pretty sure that you try 'in vain' rather than 'in vein' but a nice post to show some of the horrible inconsistencies in English! Gets my 5 :-)

            It definitely isn't definatley

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • J Johann Gerell

              So, I'm Swedish and have some difficulties to differ between "insure" and "ensure". When coding, I tend to use "ensure" as in the function void EnsureProperState() and in the comment // Ensures that nothing bad will happen with bla bla bla. To me "insure" is about physical insurance, like "life insurance" or "vehicle insurance". Is there a more strict difference between them?

              -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

              M Offline
              M Offline
              moon_stick
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              According to the Oxford English Dictionary: insure • verb 1 arrange for compensation in the event of damage to or loss of (property, life, or a person), in exchange for regular payments to a company. 2 secure the payment of (a sum) in this way. 3 (insure against) protect (someone) against (a possible eventuality). 4 another term for ENSURE. so technically you can use either. Personally, I would tend to use ensure to mean 'to make sure some has or will happen' and use insure as in term 1 of the above definition. Strangely, words starting in / en don't always have different meanings - enquire and inquire for example, both mean the same thing.

              It definitely isn't definatley

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • J Johann Gerell

                So, I'm Swedish and have some difficulties to differ between "insure" and "ensure". When coding, I tend to use "ensure" as in the function void EnsureProperState() and in the comment // Ensures that nothing bad will happen with bla bla bla. To me "insure" is about physical insurance, like "life insurance" or "vehicle insurance". Is there a more strict difference between them?

                -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

                D Offline
                D Offline
                Dalek Dave
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                You have it exactly. To Ensure means to guarantee something happens, to Insure is to guard against! That seems a bit trite, but your definition is absolutely correct.

                ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • S soap brain

                  I've never personally needed to learn any rules about this - I've always been right on instinct ever since I was very little. However, this looks like it knows what it's talking about.[^] At the end, it says, "Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither."

                  "What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."

                  D Offline
                  D Offline
                  Dalek Dave
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  I've always been right on instinct

                  ALWAYS? Thats quite a boast, even Einstein said he was wrong once! (ok he was wrong when he mis-corrected what was already right about his special theory, he soon corrected it back :) )

                  ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

                  S 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • B benjymous

                    Sadly this rule isn't sufficient either, to be honest, you could try in vein to work out standardised rules - The English language is somewhat weird and inconsistant, probably due to the kaleidoscopic way it's been merged from various sources, since ancient times most of our European neighbours have invaded at some point or other, and the language reflects that with many foreign influenced words. Science tends not to play by the rules either. You could probably do with some caffeine by now, I'm sure!

                    -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

                    C Offline
                    C Offline
                    ChandraRam
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    benjymous wrote:

                    inconsistaent

                    :)

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      I've always been right on instinct

                      ALWAYS? Thats quite a boast, even Einstein said he was wrong once! (ok he was wrong when he mis-corrected what was already right about his special theory, he soon corrected it back :) )

                      ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

                      S Offline
                      S Offline
                      soap brain
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      Yes, always. ;P

                      "What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."

                      D 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • S soap brain

                        Yes, always. ;P

                        "What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."

                        D Offline
                        D Offline
                        Dalek Dave
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        I like your Confidence! :-D

                        ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

                        S 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • D Dalek Dave

                          I like your Confidence! :-D

                          ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

                          S Offline
                          S Offline
                          soap brain
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          I like your praise!

                          "What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • J Johann Gerell

                            So, I'm Swedish and have some difficulties to differ between "insure" and "ensure". When coding, I tend to use "ensure" as in the function void EnsureProperState() and in the comment // Ensures that nothing bad will happen with bla bla bla. To me "insure" is about physical insurance, like "life insurance" or "vehicle insurance". Is there a more strict difference between them?

                            -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

                            L Offline
                            L Offline
                            Lost User
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            Use "make sure" instead of "ensure". That way you'll never go wrong and you don't have to remember all those prefixes. Example: int i, e; i = i; // make sure that i is i e = e; // ... and e is e :)

                            J 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • L Lost User

                              Use "make sure" instead of "ensure". That way you'll never go wrong and you don't have to remember all those prefixes. Example: int i, e; i = i; // make sure that i is i e = e; // ... and e is e :)

                              J Offline
                              J Offline
                              Johann Gerell
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              Well, that doesn't fit into my way of naming functions: MakeSureXYZ() would in my world mean that a SureXYZ object will be somehow "made" by that function, whereas EnsureXYZ() cannot be misunderstood. :)

                              -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

                              L 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • J Johann Gerell

                                So, I'm Swedish and have some difficulties to differ between "insure" and "ensure". When coding, I tend to use "ensure" as in the function void EnsureProperState() and in the comment // Ensures that nothing bad will happen with bla bla bla. To me "insure" is about physical insurance, like "life insurance" or "vehicle insurance". Is there a more strict difference between them?

                                -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

                                realJSOPR Offline
                                realJSOPR Offline
                                realJSOP
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                You are correct sir.

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                                J 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  You are correct sir.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                                  J Offline
                                  J Offline
                                  Johann Gerell
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  Gosh! I'm flabbergasted! I've never been "sir"-ed before... :rolleyes:

                                  -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • J Johann Gerell

                                    Well, that doesn't fit into my way of naming functions: MakeSureXYZ() would in my world mean that a SureXYZ object will be somehow "made" by that function, whereas EnsureXYZ() cannot be misunderstood. :)

                                    -- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time - Bertrand Russel

                                    L Offline
                                    L Offline
                                    Lost User
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    I thought it was about the use of "ensure" inside comments, not naming functions with it. In that case, using Ensure as a prefix sounds just as weird to me as using MakeSure. :P If I'm not sure about something I just ASSERT it and fix problems later.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    Reply
                                    • Reply as topic
                                    Log in to reply
                                    • Oldest to Newest
                                    • Newest to Oldest
                                    • Most Votes


                                    • Login

                                    • Don't have an account? Register

                                    • Login or register to search.
                                    • First post
                                      Last post
                                    0
                                    • Categories
                                    • Recent
                                    • Tags
                                    • Popular
                                    • World
                                    • Users
                                    • Groups