Mac Development
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I am not sure how many people will get impressed by the following syntax:
Named parameters. I love 'em. Started writing a simple CAD program on OS/2 using Objective C (GCC) long before i ever took C++ seriously (never finished it though; the environment was sadly lacking when it came to OS/2 GUI dev). :sigh:
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
One thing though, I once considered that VS is the best IDE available. Now after being exposed to IDE's such as XCode, Eclipse and NetBeans, I don't think it is true anymore. It is amazing how different IDEs have come close to VS and some are even better than VS.
You know, i'm not entirely convinced that IDEs in general are a good end when it comes to working with non-trivial projects. In some ways, i guess i'm realizing how much i've lost by allowing myself to become accustom to using VS for everything. There was a time when the first thing i'd do on a new project was write a set of scripts and MAKEFILEs to automate building, testing, and putting together an installation. Now i set up a VS project and do the rest manually... The former is a good deal quicker than dealing with
make, but with the rest it just might be a net loss. :~Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
I too used to be a VS addicted individual. When I bought my MacBook Pro I found I could still use VS (through Virtual Machine) running it better on the Mac than it ran on the PC based solution. I had experience with Eclipse though and one of the things that I liked with it was the ability to use the scripts of past. In fact that is one of the many real strengths in my opinion. So much so that I have made a concerted effort that future development will not happen in VS when and where ever possible.
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It all started when my wife gifted me a new iMac on my birthday. At that time Mac was something new to me and for about a month I used it for VS development, launching VS on virtual machines. Then one day I became curious how I can develop a simple application for Mac. Then the iPhone SDK was released and I got deeper into iPhone and mac development. Initially, I resisted Objective-C, which is the primary development language for Mac. The syntax looked ugly to me. I am not sure how many people will get impressed by the following syntax:
[rect setWidth:100 height:200];But gradually as I understand more and more. I love Objective-C which is a combination of C and Small-talk. So it has the goodies of C and also that of dynamically typed languages such as Ruby and JavaScript. One thing though, I once considered that VS is the best IDE available. Now after being exposed to IDE's such as XCode, Eclipse and NetBeans, I don't think it is true anymore. It is amazing how different IDEs have come close to VS and some are even better than VS.You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
Interesting thread..I just bought a MacBook Pro last week to start working on a couple IPhone apps. At first, I didn't like the look of Objective-C. I'm actually starting to like it, but, I still feel like several aspects are a step backward. Working with raw pointers and having to manage memory just seems wrong these days :). I guess I've been spoiled too long by managed languages like C# and Java. I am actually writing this post from my MacBook. I also have Vista on here as well. I now only need to switch to Windows to work with Visual Studio and SQL Server. Everything else I need is on the Mac side (even Office)!
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It all started when my wife gifted me a new iMac on my birthday. At that time Mac was something new to me and for about a month I used it for VS development, launching VS on virtual machines. Then one day I became curious how I can develop a simple application for Mac. Then the iPhone SDK was released and I got deeper into iPhone and mac development. Initially, I resisted Objective-C, which is the primary development language for Mac. The syntax looked ugly to me. I am not sure how many people will get impressed by the following syntax:
[rect setWidth:100 height:200];But gradually as I understand more and more. I love Objective-C which is a combination of C and Small-talk. So it has the goodies of C and also that of dynamically typed languages such as Ruby and JavaScript. One thing though, I once considered that VS is the best IDE available. Now after being exposed to IDE's such as XCode, Eclipse and NetBeans, I don't think it is true anymore. It is amazing how different IDEs have come close to VS and some are even better than VS.You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
Until it gets Microsoft .NET and VS with C# and VB, heck no. C and C++ (even managed) are ultra-ugly. That snippet made want to barf. X|
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Until it gets Microsoft .NET and VS with C# and VB, heck no. C and C++ (even managed) are ultra-ugly. That snippet made want to barf. X|
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I forgot something so hideous. UNIX.
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