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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    Oakman wrote:

    Which explains why there aren't any large bodies of water in Earth. I'm glad he cleared that up.

    Yeah me too. I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

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    73Zeppelin wrote:

    I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

    But what are we going to do about all that free floating hydrogen? Put up really large "No Smoking" signs?

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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

      But what are we going to do about all that free floating hydrogen? Put up really large "No Smoking" signs?

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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      Harness it for fuel cells so we can reduce CO2 emissions!

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        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

        Maybe he got confused with boiling and decomposition?

        Yeeeeeaaaaahhhh....:suss:

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        Well, I dunno, and he's almost certainly not going to tell us what was going on in that 'brain' of his.

        Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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          Chris Austin wrote:

          You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

          :laugh: I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one! Actually, no. I bet I get ZERO response.

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          73Zeppelin wrote:

          I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one!

          I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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            73Zeppelin wrote:

            I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one!

            I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

            Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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            That's because the Marxists have their mind-ray trained on you.

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              That's because the Marxists have their mind-ray trained on you.

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              Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

              Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                :laugh: The Marxists are the bunker!

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                  News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!! Check it out: Tim Craig wrote: 73Zeppelin: Similarly, there was no ozone layer at one point MrPlankton: How do you know that? Tim Craig: Because at one point before green plants, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere. No oxygen, no ozone. Idiot: You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen? :laugh: So, apparently atmospheric ozone can be generated at ground level via spontaneous breaking of the water molecule (and perceivably remain stable until it makes its way into the upper atmosphere)! What a discovery! What genius that lies behind this new mechanism of atmospheric ozone production! Nobel prize, nobel prize! Here's a clue idiot: Water contains: 2 HYDROGEN atoms and 1 OXYGEN atom Atmospheric oxygen is O2 - TWO OXYGEN atoms. Even if (stable) water were somehow miraculously able to break down spontaneously you'd still have only a free oxygen atom. So, where does the marvellous O2 come from that you propose? I'll tell you, it comes from this reaction called photolysis: 2H2O + 2NADP+ + 8 photons (light) 2NADPH + 2H+ + O2 But since you're such an idiot, I'm interested in your crackpot theory. How, exactly, does this miraculous theory of yours fit into the ozone cycle: O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) -> 2 O O + O2 -> O3 It is destroyed by the reaction with atomic oxygen: O3 + O -> 2 O2 ?? Do tell. Furthermore, maybe you'd like to explain your idea of how water spontaneously dissociates by being exposed to photons and results in the production of gaseous O2. I have a glass of water and a halogen lamp that emits UV here to test your theory. Waiting....

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                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                  News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!!

                  Though, of course, one expects true idiots, such as 73DipStick and his Amen Chorus, to refuse to think and understand:

                  Hydrogen peroxide tips[^] Hydrogen Peroxide on the other hand, is simply water with an extra oxygen molecule (H2O2) and breaks down into oxygen and water. It's certainly kinder on the environment. H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                  Water is O-H-O [edit: OOPS, obviously I meant: H-O-H] Hydrogen peroxide is H-O-O-H [edit:] When H-O-O-H "degrades" into H-O-H and O (obviously, intermediate steps happen), does that not leave a "free" atmospheric O atom? And, since atmospheric O atoms are "unstable," will not two of them "join" to from a "stable" atmospheric O-O "atom?" Did you know (and do you care, even now) that the cells of your own body generate small amounts of hydrogen peroxide? Your [edit: The] assertion[^] was that atmospheric oxygen (i.e. the O-O molecule) is *solely* the result of green plants. This assertion is not true; that was my entire point and claim.

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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                    :laugh: The Marxists are the bunker!

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                    Not mine...

                    Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!!

                      Though, of course, one expects true idiots, such as 73DipStick and his Amen Chorus, to refuse to think and understand:

                      Hydrogen peroxide tips[^] Hydrogen Peroxide on the other hand, is simply water with an extra oxygen molecule (H2O2) and breaks down into oxygen and water. It's certainly kinder on the environment. H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                      Water is O-H-O [edit: OOPS, obviously I meant: H-O-H] Hydrogen peroxide is H-O-O-H [edit:] When H-O-O-H "degrades" into H-O-H and O (obviously, intermediate steps happen), does that not leave a "free" atmospheric O atom? And, since atmospheric O atoms are "unstable," will not two of them "join" to from a "stable" atmospheric O-O "atom?" Did you know (and do you care, even now) that the cells of your own body generate small amounts of hydrogen peroxide? Your [edit: The] assertion[^] was that atmospheric oxygen (i.e. the O-O molecule) is *solely* the result of green plants. This assertion is not true; that was my entire point and claim.

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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                      Of course!!! This explains why all fish are blondes!!!

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Ilíon wrote:

                        H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                        Of course!!! This explains why all fish are blondes!!!

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Of course!!! This explains why all fish are blondes!!!

                        But does it explain why even a "dumb blonde" has, or at least uses, more wisdom that you fools do?

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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one!

                          I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

                          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

                          Not to worry. Just never forget that most of these 'atheists' who frequent the SoapBox are not honest persons.

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                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!!

                            Though, of course, one expects true idiots, such as 73DipStick and his Amen Chorus, to refuse to think and understand:

                            Hydrogen peroxide tips[^] Hydrogen Peroxide on the other hand, is simply water with an extra oxygen molecule (H2O2) and breaks down into oxygen and water. It's certainly kinder on the environment. H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                            Water is O-H-O [edit: OOPS, obviously I meant: H-O-H] Hydrogen peroxide is H-O-O-H [edit:] When H-O-O-H "degrades" into H-O-H and O (obviously, intermediate steps happen), does that not leave a "free" atmospheric O atom? And, since atmospheric O atoms are "unstable," will not two of them "join" to from a "stable" atmospheric O-O "atom?" Did you know (and do you care, even now) that the cells of your own body generate small amounts of hydrogen peroxide? Your [edit: The] assertion[^] was that atmospheric oxygen (i.e. the O-O molecule) is *solely* the result of green plants. This assertion is not true; that was my entire point and claim.

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                            So, yeah. Apparently when you say "water", you actually mean "hydrogen peroxide". I see. You're a lying moron now. Anyways, your frantic google search for hydrogen peroxide still hasn't answered my question about how you believe this can create atmospheric oxygen in detectable quantities let alone miraculously produce upper atmosphere ozone. We're still waiting for you to stop lying and dodging and to finally admit you really are clueless. :laugh: I can't believe you keep posting on this board after the number of times you've been humiliated. You're like Pavlov's dog, only dumber.

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

                              Not to worry. Just never forget that most of these 'atheists' who frequent the SoapBox are not honest persons.

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              Not to worry. Just never forget that most of these 'atheists' who frequent the SoapBox are not honest persons.

                              As opposed to you who has just been caught in a bold-faced lie? :laugh: You crack me up, idiot.

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                Of course!!! This explains why all fish are blondes!!!

                                But does it explain why even a "dumb blonde" has, or at least uses, more wisdom that you fools do?

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                                Ilíon wrote:

                                But does it explain why even a "dumb blonde" has, or at least uses, more wisdom that you fools do?

                                Other than a level of insult more suited to the second grade, have you got anything to say?

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                                  News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!!

                                  Though, of course, one expects true idiots, such as 73DipStick and his Amen Chorus, to refuse to think and understand:

                                  Hydrogen peroxide tips[^] Hydrogen Peroxide on the other hand, is simply water with an extra oxygen molecule (H2O2) and breaks down into oxygen and water. It's certainly kinder on the environment. H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                                  Water is O-H-O [edit: OOPS, obviously I meant: H-O-H] Hydrogen peroxide is H-O-O-H [edit:] When H-O-O-H "degrades" into H-O-H and O (obviously, intermediate steps happen), does that not leave a "free" atmospheric O atom? And, since atmospheric O atoms are "unstable," will not two of them "join" to from a "stable" atmospheric O-O "atom?" Did you know (and do you care, even now) that the cells of your own body generate small amounts of hydrogen peroxide? Your [edit: The] assertion[^] was that atmospheric oxygen (i.e. the O-O molecule) is *solely* the result of green plants. This assertion is not true; that was my entire point and claim.

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                                  Just because I enjoy seeing you completely humiliated, would you mind explaining why your important hydrogen peroxide contribution isn't considered part of the oxygen cycle[^]? How can you explain this? Has it simply been overlooked? Perhaps you're a monumental idiot? :laugh:

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                                    So, yeah. Apparently when you say "water", you actually mean "hydrogen peroxide". I see. You're a lying moron now. Anyways, your frantic google search for hydrogen peroxide still hasn't answered my question about how you believe this can create atmospheric oxygen in detectable quantities let alone miraculously produce upper atmosphere ozone. We're still waiting for you to stop lying and dodging and to finally admit you really are clueless. :laugh: I can't believe you keep posting on this board after the number of times you've been humiliated. You're like Pavlov's dog, only dumber.

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                                    But, we knew that.

                                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                                    So, yeah. Apparently when you say "water", you actually mean "hydrogen peroxide". I see.

                                    Where did the hydrogen peroxide that was generated by sunlight acting upon water come from? Where did the hydrogen peroxide that was generated living cells come from? From water.

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                                      Just because I enjoy seeing you completely humiliated, would you mind explaining why your important hydrogen peroxide contribution isn't considered part of the oxygen cycle[^]? How can you explain this? Has it simply been overlooked? Perhaps you're a monumental idiot? :laugh:

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                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      Just because I enjoy seeing you completely humiliated, would you mind explaining why your important hydrogen peroxide contribution isn't considered part of the oxygen cycle[^]?

                                      As I said previously, my point and claim is only that your assertion that atmospheric O-O is solely the result of photosynthesis is false. To be blunt, I think you enjoy completely humiliating yourself.

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                                        Ilíon wrote:

                                        But does it explain why even a "dumb blonde" has, or at least uses, more wisdom that you fools do?

                                        Other than a level of insult more suited to the second grade, have you got anything to say?

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        Other than a level of insult more suited to the second grade, have you got anything to say?

                                        When have you *ever* done other than attempt insults suited to second grade? It's your entire oeuvre.

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                                          But, we knew that.

                                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                                          So, yeah. Apparently when you say "water", you actually mean "hydrogen peroxide". I see.

                                          Where did the hydrogen peroxide that was generated by sunlight acting upon water come from? Where did the hydrogen peroxide that was generated living cells come from? From water.

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                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          Where did the hydrogen peroxide that was generated by sunlight acting upon water come from? Where did the hydrogen peroxide that was generated living cells come from?

                                          :laugh: That's not under dispute, dipshit. Your fantasy that (well, first it was just plain water that could "degrade", now you've changed course lied and suggested hydrogen peroxide) hydrogen peroxide contributes to atmospheric oxygen and ozone before (or even after for that matter) the existence of plants has been demonstrated to be completely unfounded. Remember the basis of the original discussion, deceiver? I'll remind you: We were discussing the fact that upper atmospheric ozone couldn't exist without plants. You're claiming it could because water (now it's hydrogen peroxide) "degrading" had something to do with the presence of an ozone layer. Presumably you meant that since ozone requires oxygen as a precursor, oxygen is being produced by sunlight interacting with concentrations (on the order of nano moles) of hydrogen peroxide in naturally occurring water and somehow this ends up as atmospheric ozone or some other complete bullshit you've dreamed up in the last 2 hours. I've shown that to be completely false based on chemistry and the oxygen cycle. Have you figured out that you're completely wrong yet or do you need futher humiliation?

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