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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
I've put VS2008 Express, on my old Athlon XP2100+ with 2GB of RAM, in parallel with a full install of VS2005 and it definitely gives the impression of being faster. Maybe that's just the 'Express' edition but I don't think so as the differences don't run that deep. You're not the first person to report this thought, there was someone else a few weeks ago, so I suspect it's some specific problem causing a slowdown in 2008. No idea what though.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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I've put VS2008 Express, on my old Athlon XP2100+ with 2GB of RAM, in parallel with a full install of VS2005 and it definitely gives the impression of being faster. Maybe that's just the 'Express' edition but I don't think so as the differences don't run that deep. You're not the first person to report this thought, there was someone else a few weeks ago, so I suspect it's some specific problem causing a slowdown in 2008. No idea what though.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Thanks nice to know I am not alone.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
You're not the first person to report this thought, there was someone else a few weeks ago,
Missed that thread, sorry for the repost.
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
I have been moving my projects from VS2005 to VS2008 for the past 4~5 months. I use both vs2005 and vs2008 on a daily basis on the same machine. As far as can tell vs2008 is way faster, more stable, and much more responsive than vs2005. That is what I see here. Might be different for others with different computers, but with my setup VS2008 is way better than vs2005
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
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I have been moving my projects from VS2005 to VS2008 for the past 4~5 months. I use both vs2005 and vs2008 on a daily basis on the same machine. As far as can tell vs2008 is way faster, more stable, and much more responsive than vs2005. That is what I see here. Might be different for others with different computers, but with my setup VS2008 is way better than vs2005
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
I agree 100% with you. The other thing I have noticed is that the documentation opens much more quickly when you press the F1 key. VS2005 help just grinds and grinds while it builds the index.
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
I'm running XP Pro with VS 2008 on three year-old equipment, and it runs fine. Running Vista won't help. Many people forget that disk access is also part of the Visual Studio performance equation. I put my source code on a completely different physical drive.
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I agree 100% with you. The other thing I have noticed is that the documentation opens much more quickly when you press the F1 key. VS2005 help just grinds and grinds while it builds the index.
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Well ... To me VS2003 was fine and running smoothly...and then .Net 2.0 came and the move to VS2005. I was never found of that one. It felt like they added too much weight to it and it made the whole thing slow and unresponsive. With VS2008, it feels like they removed that extra weight and finally made things fly again. Vs2005 brought many new tools to the game and it feels like it was a first attempt at some of those things. VS2008 improved all those and cleaned them up at the same time. The two IDEs are extremely similar. It's just that 2008 seems lighter...or fresher. VS2005 would crash two or three times a day. The start page would take forever to load. Adding references was taking forever. Help like you said was unbelievably slow. Everything is just a little faster in VS2008. The IDE itself is much more stable. I don't experience any crashes in the course of the day. They only thing that I find strange/weird/unexpected is that every now and then intellisense along with navigation bars will stop working. I'll click on the navigation bar so that it'll take me to another method in my file and it will come out empty...I'll try intellisense and nothing will happen. Close the IDE and restart ...everything works. 30 minutes later nothing works anymore. I've gotten so I hardly use them now. I still like VS2008 much much better than VS2005, but quite frankly now that I think of it. Once you take out intellisense VS feels like one big bloated text editor. I could do just as well with a good text editor with syntax highlighting.
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
Drop Norton Anti-Virus or McAfee if you're running them. These programs are highly intrusive in a running program, particularly one running .NET or scripts, for very little benefit and high risk of breaking the program. McAfee had a habit of blanking out MessageBox.Show for a while.
DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991
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Drop Norton Anti-Virus or McAfee if you're running them. These programs are highly intrusive in a running program, particularly one running .NET or scripts, for very little benefit and high risk of breaking the program. McAfee had a habit of blanking out MessageBox.Show for a while.
DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991
Mike Dimmick wrote:
McAfee
Don't you get me started talking about the most horrible thing on earth! I uninstalled it in a week, to buy NOD32.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
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Well ... To me VS2003 was fine and running smoothly...and then .Net 2.0 came and the move to VS2005. I was never found of that one. It felt like they added too much weight to it and it made the whole thing slow and unresponsive. With VS2008, it feels like they removed that extra weight and finally made things fly again. Vs2005 brought many new tools to the game and it feels like it was a first attempt at some of those things. VS2008 improved all those and cleaned them up at the same time. The two IDEs are extremely similar. It's just that 2008 seems lighter...or fresher. VS2005 would crash two or three times a day. The start page would take forever to load. Adding references was taking forever. Help like you said was unbelievably slow. Everything is just a little faster in VS2008. The IDE itself is much more stable. I don't experience any crashes in the course of the day. They only thing that I find strange/weird/unexpected is that every now and then intellisense along with navigation bars will stop working. I'll click on the navigation bar so that it'll take me to another method in my file and it will come out empty...I'll try intellisense and nothing will happen. Close the IDE and restart ...everything works. 30 minutes later nothing works anymore. I've gotten so I hardly use them now. I still like VS2008 much much better than VS2005, but quite frankly now that I think of it. Once you take out intellisense VS feels like one big bloated text editor. I could do just as well with a good text editor with syntax highlighting.
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
I used to find I was constantly battleing with the WinForms designer in 2k3 :/ it would crash a few times a day and often do things like disconnect all the events on a form! Then I moved on to 2k5 and it was a bit better but it had the WSOD and it did feel heavier :\ finally along came 2k5 SP1 and that seemed to sort everything. I've only had a bit of a play with 2k8 at home really but so far it's been very nice and stable and fast :D
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Mike Dimmick wrote:
McAfee
Don't you get me started talking about the most horrible thing on earth! I uninstalled it in a week, to buy NOD32.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
Au Contraire my friend, Norton is the devil's own creation. I would love to spend five minutes with the project's lead designer :mad:
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Mike Dimmick wrote:
McAfee
Don't you get me started talking about the most horrible thing on earth! I uninstalled it in a week, to buy NOD32.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
We use NOD32 in our company, 100+ PCs now.
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
Changing to Vista (I hesitate to even use the word upgrade) is not going to solve any performance issues (unless the particular performance issue that is bugging you is that your PC runs too fast) Stick with XP and try to fix visual studio if I were you I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
VS2008 is definitely faster. I have a pretty good system and run Server OS only at home.
God bless, Ernest Laurentin
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Changing to Vista (I hesitate to even use the word upgrade) is not going to solve any performance issues (unless the particular performance issue that is bugging you is that your PC runs too fast) Stick with XP and try to fix visual studio if I were you I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.
Russell Jones wrote:
I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.
Sadly, not soon enough to suit my (and millions of others) taste. But that's in the hope that M$ has acknowledged that they did an incredibly botched job with Vista and have actually worked on improving it.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
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Well ... To me VS2003 was fine and running smoothly...and then .Net 2.0 came and the move to VS2005. I was never found of that one. It felt like they added too much weight to it and it made the whole thing slow and unresponsive. With VS2008, it feels like they removed that extra weight and finally made things fly again. Vs2005 brought many new tools to the game and it feels like it was a first attempt at some of those things. VS2008 improved all those and cleaned them up at the same time. The two IDEs are extremely similar. It's just that 2008 seems lighter...or fresher. VS2005 would crash two or three times a day. The start page would take forever to load. Adding references was taking forever. Help like you said was unbelievably slow. Everything is just a little faster in VS2008. The IDE itself is much more stable. I don't experience any crashes in the course of the day. They only thing that I find strange/weird/unexpected is that every now and then intellisense along with navigation bars will stop working. I'll click on the navigation bar so that it'll take me to another method in my file and it will come out empty...I'll try intellisense and nothing will happen. Close the IDE and restart ...everything works. 30 minutes later nothing works anymore. I've gotten so I hardly use them now. I still like VS2008 much much better than VS2005, but quite frankly now that I think of it. Once you take out intellisense VS feels like one big bloated text editor. I could do just as well with a good text editor with syntax highlighting.
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
Occasionally, I need to work on legacy code in VS 6.0. I know it's old and buggy, but VS 6.0 is so lightening quick. I don't want to go back, but I would very much like some of the old quickness to return to the IDE. :sigh:
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Occasionally, I need to work on legacy code in VS 6.0. I know it's old and buggy, but VS 6.0 is so lightening quick. I don't want to go back, but I would very much like some of the old quickness to return to the IDE. :sigh:
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Changing to Vista (I hesitate to even use the word upgrade) is not going to solve any performance issues (unless the particular performance issue that is bugging you is that your PC runs too fast) Stick with XP and try to fix visual studio if I were you I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.
Not really true for very large projects. I have Vista and it's superfetch caching makes a giant project I have load in an instant where it takes about 20 seconds with superfetch turned off.
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I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?
this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak
Well I've always felt that VS2008 is much faster than VS2005. The only experience I can consider is that I've installed VS2005 into an XP VM and VS2008 into another XP VM running on the same computer running Vista x64 and definitely thought tha 2008 one was faster. So my experiences directly contradict yours, sorry.
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