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  • D Dewm Solo

    Well ... To me VS2003 was fine and running smoothly...and then .Net 2.0 came and the move to VS2005. I was never found of that one. It felt like they added too much weight to it and it made the whole thing slow and unresponsive. With VS2008, it feels like they removed that extra weight and finally made things fly again. Vs2005 brought many new tools to the game and it feels like it was a first attempt at some of those things. VS2008 improved all those and cleaned them up at the same time. The two IDEs are extremely similar. It's just that 2008 seems lighter...or fresher. VS2005 would crash two or three times a day. The start page would take forever to load. Adding references was taking forever. Help like you said was unbelievably slow. Everything is just a little faster in VS2008. The IDE itself is much more stable. I don't experience any crashes in the course of the day. They only thing that I find strange/weird/unexpected is that every now and then intellisense along with navigation bars will stop working. I'll click on the navigation bar so that it'll take me to another method in my file and it will come out empty...I'll try intellisense and nothing will happen. Close the IDE and restart ...everything works. 30 minutes later nothing works anymore. I've gotten so I hardly use them now. I still like VS2008 much much better than VS2005, but quite frankly now that I think of it. Once you take out intellisense VS feels like one big bloated text editor. I could do just as well with a good text editor with syntax highlighting.

    Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer

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    originSH
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    I used to find I was constantly battleing with the WinForms designer in 2k3 :/ it would crash a few times a day and often do things like disconnect all the events on a form! Then I moved on to 2k5 and it was a bit better but it had the WSOD and it did feel heavier :\ finally along came 2k5 SP1 and that seemed to sort everything. I've only had a bit of a play with 2k8 at home really but so far it's been very nice and stable and fast :D

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    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

      Mike Dimmick wrote:

      McAfee

      Don't you get me started talking about the most horrible thing on earth! I uninstalled it in a week, to buy NOD32.

      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      Au Contraire my friend, Norton is the devil's own creation. I would love to spend five minutes with the project's lead designer :mad:

      "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        Mike Dimmick wrote:

        McAfee

        Don't you get me started talking about the most horrible thing on earth! I uninstalled it in a week, to buy NOD32.

        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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        We use NOD32 in our company, 100+ PCs now.

        www.software-kinetics.co.uk

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        • J Jim Warburton

          I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?

          this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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          Russell Jones
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          Changing to Vista (I hesitate to even use the word upgrade) is not going to solve any performance issues (unless the particular performance issue that is bugging you is that your PC runs too fast) Stick with XP and try to fix visual studio if I were you I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.

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          • J Jim Warburton

            I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?

            this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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            Ernest Laurentin
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            VS2008 is definitely faster. I have a pretty good system and run Server OS only at home.

            God bless, Ernest Laurentin

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            • R Russell Jones

              Changing to Vista (I hesitate to even use the word upgrade) is not going to solve any performance issues (unless the particular performance issue that is bugging you is that your PC runs too fast) Stick with XP and try to fix visual studio if I were you I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              Russell Jones wrote:

              I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.

              Sadly, not soon enough to suit my (and millions of others) taste. But that's in the hope that M$ has acknowledged that they did an incredibly botched job with Vista and have actually worked on improving it.

              "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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              • D Dewm Solo

                Well ... To me VS2003 was fine and running smoothly...and then .Net 2.0 came and the move to VS2005. I was never found of that one. It felt like they added too much weight to it and it made the whole thing slow and unresponsive. With VS2008, it feels like they removed that extra weight and finally made things fly again. Vs2005 brought many new tools to the game and it feels like it was a first attempt at some of those things. VS2008 improved all those and cleaned them up at the same time. The two IDEs are extremely similar. It's just that 2008 seems lighter...or fresher. VS2005 would crash two or three times a day. The start page would take forever to load. Adding references was taking forever. Help like you said was unbelievably slow. Everything is just a little faster in VS2008. The IDE itself is much more stable. I don't experience any crashes in the course of the day. They only thing that I find strange/weird/unexpected is that every now and then intellisense along with navigation bars will stop working. I'll click on the navigation bar so that it'll take me to another method in my file and it will come out empty...I'll try intellisense and nothing will happen. Close the IDE and restart ...everything works. 30 minutes later nothing works anymore. I've gotten so I hardly use them now. I still like VS2008 much much better than VS2005, but quite frankly now that I think of it. Once you take out intellisense VS feels like one big bloated text editor. I could do just as well with a good text editor with syntax highlighting.

                Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer

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                Gene OK
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                Occasionally, I need to work on legacy code in VS 6.0. I know it's old and buggy, but VS 6.0 is so lightening quick. I don't want to go back, but I would very much like some of the old quickness to return to the IDE. :sigh:

                CodeWiz51 -- Life is not a spectator sport. I came to play. Code's Musings | Code's Articles

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                  Occasionally, I need to work on legacy code in VS 6.0. I know it's old and buggy, but VS 6.0 is so lightening quick. I don't want to go back, but I would very much like some of the old quickness to return to the IDE. :sigh:

                  CodeWiz51 -- Life is not a spectator sport. I came to play. Code's Musings | Code's Articles

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                  Dewm Solo
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                  Sometimes I wish I could go back to that IDE...or any other C++ IDE. We work with managed C++ here so my choice of IDE is rather limited.

                  Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer

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                  • R Russell Jones

                    Changing to Vista (I hesitate to even use the word upgrade) is not going to solve any performance issues (unless the particular performance issue that is bugging you is that your PC runs too fast) Stick with XP and try to fix visual studio if I were you I'm sure Windows 7 will be here soon enough.

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                    Not really true for very large projects. I have Vista and it's superfetch caching makes a giant project I have load in an instant where it takes about 20 seconds with superfetch turned off.


                    "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                    • J Jim Warburton

                      I recently installed VS2008 on my computer (I have the memory/processor to easily handle the demand), needed access to WPF. I find it is much slower than VS2005. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I am still running XP, any thoughts if upgrading to Vista would help?

                      this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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                      Ed Poore
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                      Well I've always felt that VS2008 is much faster than VS2005. The only experience I can consider is that I've installed VS2005 into an XP VM and VS2008 into another XP VM running on the same computer running Vista x64 and definitely thought tha 2008 one was faster. So my experiences directly contradict yours, sorry.


                      I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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