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  • M Marc Clifton

    So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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    Ed Poore
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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready!

    Get a faster computer :rolleyes: Seriously I'm amazed at the issues people have with Vista, I've been running it non-stop for coming up to a year know and never had any issues with it at all. Office 2007 has been fine as well, the only time it's slowed down was when I was writing out equations and after the 30th odd page it began to slow down as I editing the equations.


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    • M Marc Clifton

      So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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      Alsvha
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      My word 2007 starts on Vista x64 in about a second to two. Ready to type. Perhaps the problem isn't Word2K7

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      • Z Zoltan Balazs

        Hey if it's not Word then it must be Vista's fault ;)

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        Graham Shanks
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        Zoltan Balazs wrote:

        Hey if it's not Word then it must be Vista's fault

        Even when it's not running on Vista it's Vista's fault :)

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        • M Marc Clifton

          So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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          Pete OHanlon
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          The other article authors on this site have bribed your computer so that you have to slow down producing articles - little do they know that all your articles are written in Frontpage. Seriously though, why do you need anything more powerful than Notepad? It's more than feature complete for a lot of my customers.

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            I still use Office 97. :)

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            I would still have been on Office 97 had I not needed to upgrade to Office 2000 at the time for MS Access. (I'd been using an Access-less version of Office 97.) I've not noticed anything in later versions of Office (higher than 97) that provide a compelling reason for me to upgrade. (I guess if I had an MSDN Sub or similar then I would have upgraded but I don't.)

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              The other article authors on this site have bribed your computer so that you have to slow down producing articles - little do they know that all your articles are written in Frontpage. Seriously though, why do you need anything more powerful than Notepad? It's more than feature complete for a lot of my customers.

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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              Seriously though, why do you need anything more powerful than Notepad? It's more than feature complete for a lot of my customers.

              That's a neat trick Pete, taking customer requirements, developing a spec, spending a couple of months in development and then delivering Notepad and getting paid for it :)

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              • M martin_hughes

                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                Seriously though, why do you need anything more powerful than Notepad? It's more than feature complete for a lot of my customers.

                That's a neat trick Pete, taking customer requirements, developing a spec, spending a couple of months in development and then delivering Notepad and getting paid for it :)

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                martin_hughes wrote:

                That's a neat trick Pete, taking customer requirements, developing a spec, spending a couple of months in development and then delivering Notepad and getting paid for it

                Hey - we're a full service outfit. Mind you this is why I employ a 27 stone goon called Karl - he's finally mastered the phrase "Pay up or else."

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  it's [Word] so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready!

                  There is a solution. :~ Solution to Word 2007 Problems[^] :-D

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                  Even ssssslllloooowwwweeeerrrrr........

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                    The other article authors on this site have bribed your computer so that you have to slow down producing articles - little do they know that all your articles are written in Frontpage. Seriously though, why do you need anything more powerful than Notepad? It's more than feature complete for a lot of my customers.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    Seriously though, why do you need anything more powerful than Notepad? It's more than feature complete for a lot of my customers.

                    Ironically, I fire up notepad almost always first. In this particular case, I wanted some pretty headers and clickable links. I almost used FrontPage but thought, well, let's give Word a try, I haven't used in ages! But I discovered that notepad does wierd things with line wraps. If you have linewrap enabled, it places hard returns in strange locations, like it's formatting to a printer or something. Marc

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                      Even ssssslllloooowwwweeeerrrrr........

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                      Alpha Nerd wrote:

                      Even ssssslllloooowwwweeeerrrrr........

                      That's strange. I don't find it slow at all. We are professional publishers so publishing tools are the core of our every day work. The problem with Word is that if the document is large (say 800 - 1000 pages) word just chokes and is unworkable. Anything over 500 pages is impossible to edit. None of the editors have been complaining about large documents since we switched to OpenOffice. I, personally, implement SharePoint and Office Interop utilities (Microsoft.Office.Interop.Word.dll in this case) to automate parts of the publishing process. When I implement Word programmatically the process takes an inordinate amount of time to complete, especially applying styles to a document. Because some of our customers mandate that documents under review are delivered to their editors in Word I will be stuck with the white elephant for the foreseeable future.

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                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                        What OS?

                        vista

                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                        All my Office Start Menu shortcuts have stopped working (they just do nothing)

                        yep. i still have the icons, though. a look at the Properties shows that they're not typical shortcuts (the Target is read-only and isn't an exe, for example). i fixed it by creating normal shortcuts and pinning them to the top of the start menu.

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                        have you tried word safe mode?

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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                          Hmm. Microsoft must have hired away some of the Lotus Notes team. Notes does the same thing. Around 7-10 seconds after you start writing a new e-mail, it locks up for about 5 seconds. It eventually catches up. Unfortunately, I'm a wordy bugger, so I can't finish an e-mail in 7 seconds and send it.

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                            My wife still holds Office 2003 over my head. She never forgave me for upgrading from Office 97. I've been afraid to take the Office 2007 CD out of it's MSDN wrapper after that last thrashing.

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                            here here, I am tempted to go to open office but if I change office apps I'll be in the dog house for the next few months while she gets used to the different UI. I guess I'll wait till I have pissed her off for someting else and load the new office while I'm already on the dog shop.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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                              Reason: You installed Vista on your bicycle computer. Solution: Turn off Aero.

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                                Alpha Nerd wrote:

                                Even ssssslllloooowwwweeeerrrrr........

                                That's strange. I don't find it slow at all. We are professional publishers so publishing tools are the core of our every day work. The problem with Word is that if the document is large (say 800 - 1000 pages) word just chokes and is unworkable. Anything over 500 pages is impossible to edit. None of the editors have been complaining about large documents since we switched to OpenOffice. I, personally, implement SharePoint and Office Interop utilities (Microsoft.Office.Interop.Word.dll in this case) to automate parts of the publishing process. When I implement Word programmatically the process takes an inordinate amount of time to complete, especially applying styles to a document. Because some of our customers mandate that documents under review are delivered to their editors in Word I will be stuck with the white elephant for the foreseeable future.

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                                The Cake of Deceit
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                                That's wrong. Java makes Oo.org so sssssssssssssllllllllllllllllloooooowwwwwwwwwwww...........

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                                  That's wrong. Java makes Oo.org so sssssssssssssllllllllllllllllloooooowwwwwwwwwwww...........

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                                  Alpha Nerd wrote:

                                  Java makes Oo.org so sssssssssssssllllllllllllllllloooooowwwwwwwwwwww...........

                                  Sounds like you don't have enough memory.

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                                    Alpha Nerd wrote:

                                    Java makes Oo.org so sssssssssssssllllllllllllllllloooooowwwwwwwwwwww...........

                                    Sounds like you don't have enough memory.

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                                    The Cake of Deceit
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                                    1 GB with 3Ghz dual-core processor. If I can run the killer of RAM (Firefox 2) smoothly four 4 fours, something is wrong with OO.org.

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