Useless Administration and Shameless Political Stunt

[Kannan Coder]

Me too. Because my house is on a hill top. :-D

[ChandraRam]

Why would I need an electric bike at all then? ;P A good bicycle should do for exercise

[Vasudevan Deepak Kumar]

The features enumerated are really promising. Wonder what is then preventing the society from switching to it sparing the non-renewable resource? :confused:

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[Lost User]

I think that petrol should be completely unregulated. Diesel should be available on subsidy only to public utilities and freight carriers. No subsidies for airline fuel. Subsidized LPG for cooking should be available only for families below poverty line. If there is real concern about taxes, government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped. I am sure every Indian will agree that far more can be done for far less money, if the bureaucracy is trimmed down and simpler distribution schemes for welfare is implemented. In Kerala, the government has about 3 lakhs employees. There are only less than 2000 panchayats (town in US terms). The government effectively employs 150 people per panchayat. Nothing much happens in these panchayats anyway. They can't even maintain infrastructure or provide effective waste disposal. Proper computerization with simplified administrative procedures is required. (the current ones were made when there was no telephone or motor vehicles; files are being manually send by post everyday). I know that it will not happen; firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

[Vasudevan Deepak Kumar]

Thomas George wrote:

government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped

Very much. At least this befits Government of Tamil Nadu very much. I am not sure, how this government is going to respond to the crazy schemes like Free LPG and Free Color TV for masses, which were launched purely to strenghten their vote banks.

Thomas George wrote:

firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

Very much true. Much of the lazy a$$es need to be given a kick. :)

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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

Very much true. Much of the lazy a$$es need to be given a kick.

The best part would be that we will miss nothing :)

[Vasudevan Deepak Kumar]

We would rather gain a lot of thing. 1) Significant savings for the exchequer 2) Better management of public taxes instead of just letting them in the drain. 3) Better name and fame for the various departments of the government since the rampantly corrupt political skunks are being cleared off.

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Just whan India is fgoing to get a car they can afford, they cant afford the fuel. Sorry guys, looks like the western lifestyle just keeps slipping out of reach... :)

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[Rama Krishna Vavilala]

I am not sure what you are ranting about here. I think it is unfortunate that in India petrol proces are in control of the government a opposed to the free market. That to me will be the real rant rather than the price increase.

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[Vasudevan Deepak Kumar]

The purchase of car is an one-time investment. The number of times we purchase fuel and its ratio against the original investment seems to have gone through a really horrible sea-change and the current manifestation of it being a terrifying price model of the non-renewable resource. :)

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[Vasudevan Deepak Kumar]

The bureocratic processes are actively interfering the free flow of fuel. Isn't it?

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[Rajesh R Subramanian]

Sadly yes. The politicians - they must be shot. All of them. :|

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[Ilion]

ChandraRam wrote:

Kannan.Coder: The main advantage is that it wouldn’t make air, sound pollution. ChandraRam: Are you sure? Think about how we will charge the electric bikes - how it is produced...

Exactly! If we (as individuals, as societies) are going to make these sorts of decisions with "the environment" being the decisive factor, then we have to look at the whole picture.

[Ilion]

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

The politicians - they must be shot. All of them.

Shoot the lawyers. Most politicians are lawyers, so thinning that herd will be doubly beneficial.

[Vikram A Punathambekar]

I was going to reply to VDK, but you've said pretty much everything I wanted to.

Thomas George wrote:

firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though

Not as welcome as firing at them. ;P

Cheers, Vikram.

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[Vikram A Punathambekar]

How the hell is raising the prices a 'stunt'? Besides, the cost of procurement is rising; given that the arseholes in Govt will not reduce taxes/duties, how will the oil companies survive?

Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes

I'm not sure what the right emoticon here is. I, for one, would kill a politician if they tried to lick my privates.

Cheers, Vikram.

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[Rajesh R Subramanian]

I'll be more than happy thinning the herd; but sadly it ain't gonna happen. :sigh:

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[Rajesh R Subramanian]

Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

Besides, the cost of procurement is rising; given that the arseholes in Govt will not reduce taxes/duties, how will the oil companies survive?

Which oil companies are you talking about? Oil isn't distributed by any private agency in India. It is all government-run in our country and that monopoly is what is causing this misery.

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[Vikram A Punathambekar]

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

Which oil companies are you talking about?

Pretty much every one.

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

Oil isn't distributed by any private agency in India.

There used to be Reliance Petroleum but they downed shutters recently. I'm sure there are others (Shell?). Read on below.

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

It is all government-run in our country

So what? They are still distinct entities and have to pay for their imports.

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

that monopoly is what is causing this misery.

It is this monopoly, helped by subsidies, that is keeping the price 'down' at Rs. 55. The private companies went bust because they didn't get subsidies, and nobody went to them to buy petrol at the higher regular price. If it weren't for the subsidies, petrol would be much costlier than Rs. 55.

Cheers, Vikram.

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[Rajesh R Subramanian]

I should have put it this way. Oil price is government regulated in our country, no matter who sells it. And reliance petroleum is closed down? When? It's been months, but I remember filling up my diesel tank at a reliance oil outlet on Thane - Belapur road.

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