CP in 2030...
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
in 2030, CP will be all about fixing the Y2.038K bug. -c
To explain Donald Knuth's relevance to computing is like explaining Paul's relevance to the Catholic Church. He isn't God, he isn't the Son of God, but he was sent by God to explain God to the masses.
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
2030 eh, heck I can't even imagine what it'll be like in a year's time. Chris and the rest of the volunteers have done such great work so far. My hopes for the next couple of years. Some kind of web-service to allow forum browsing via something a little better than a web-browser. A way to post little snippits of code rather than full blown articles (eh Paul, how's it going). Of course a version control system for the source code would be nice, so that we can all contribute to other's code without having to upload new zip files and articles. I hope to see CP rewritten with .NET too, then perhaps new features could be added by the rest of us without adding to Chris's workload. Michael :-) Death is the price we pay for progress, you know - The Doctor
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Woo Hoo! I found a web server that is a time portal into the future. Just type in the following url: (just change the year and site variables for any other time or site) http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com p.s. Give it a few seconds to calculate the changes -- Hook? check. Line? check. Sinker? check.
Tom Welch wrote: _http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com_ time.portal.web is down here. You sure the link is correct? Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
Doesn't this mean that in 28-30 years from now or kids will actually be surfing to CodeProject? Nick Parker
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Tom Welch wrote: _http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com_ time.portal.web is down here. You sure the link is correct? Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
Before you click on the link you have to install the new time warp plug-in for IE (Sorry, time warp isn't available in other browsers yet). You can get it here. Simon Walton wrote: You sure the link is correct? Certainly
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Tom Welch wrote: _http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com_ time.portal.web is down here. You sure the link is correct? Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
Maybe it worked perfectly and CP will be off the air by 2030 :-D not that I actually believe that David http://www.dundas.com
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
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Woo Hoo! I found a web server that is a time portal into the future. Just type in the following url: (just change the year and site variables for any other time or site) http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com p.s. Give it a few seconds to calculate the changes -- Hook? check. Line? check. Sinker? check.
Wow, that looks really cool. Thanks for the link. What is really scary is when you put in site=www.microsoft.com and it forwards you to www.earth.gov.
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Before you click on the link you have to install the new time warp plug-in for IE (Sorry, time warp isn't available in other browsers yet). You can get it here. Simon Walton wrote: You sure the link is correct? Certainly
Ryan Johnston wrote: You can get it here. Yow! I want this hat!
Shog9 --
Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
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Ryan Johnston wrote: You can get it here. Yow! I want this hat!
Shog9 --
Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
That is a nice hat.
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2030 eh, heck I can't even imagine what it'll be like in a year's time. Chris and the rest of the volunteers have done such great work so far. My hopes for the next couple of years. Some kind of web-service to allow forum browsing via something a little better than a web-browser. A way to post little snippits of code rather than full blown articles (eh Paul, how's it going). Of course a version control system for the source code would be nice, so that we can all contribute to other's code without having to upload new zip files and articles. I hope to see CP rewritten with .NET too, then perhaps new features could be added by the rest of us without adding to Chris's workload. Michael :-) Death is the price we pay for progress, you know - The Doctor
This was the sort of thing I was thinking about. If CP opens up so that we have non-browser client software connecting to it and it changes even more so that .NET extensions of almost any kind can be added by appropriately priviledged CP citizens, we'll be opening the door pretty wide for all kinds of future additions (plugins?). Online extreme programming cooperative coding sessions? Services something like SourceForge? Maybe some advanced stuff like online cooperative xp coding sessions? Sometimes I just like to think about things that I'll probably never get a chance to do... John
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Doesn't this mean that in 28-30 years from now or kids will actually be surfing to CodeProject? Nick Parker
Hmmm... And will the be on 3D virtual surf boards when they surf the net then? ;P
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BAH! In 2030 CP won't even exist. Heck, the world wide web probably won't exist. This whole internet thingy is just a fad.
Mike Mullikin - I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill
Mike Mullikin wrote: This whole internet thingy is just a fad. LOL John
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
Predicting the future is always a bit tricky (where's my personal jetpack that would fly me to work everday without the hassle of gridlocked traffic?) I think one obvious upgrade would be that an AI would quickly match people with the solution to their programming question. If for example, I wanted to know why my control wasn't repainting, the AI would draw from it's database of answers (that other people have posted) and reply that I need to call "RedrawWindow()". It's not that the AI would know the answer on its own, but could quickly match users with an answer in its database of already existing answers. The same would be true of the controls - e.g. "I need a control that acts like a dropdown window, but it..." Maybe all this could be done with voice commands, the AI would be interactive and ask me questions to narrow the search. Oh, and there would be no more programming questions in the lounge that begin with "I posted this in the programming forum, but no one could answer my question. I know I'm not supposed to post here, but..." I'm really not sure that VR or face-to-face lounge chats would add much. It's cool in a gee-whiz kind of way, but does it add much? I think programming will be quite a bit different. I think object oriented programming will still be around, but objects will be more powerful, modular, and have fewer bugs (perhaps they will be tested by AIs). But the process of defining objects will be quite a lot different than today. ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
You mean in 28 years I'm still going to be sitting here in my bathrobe answering 'I forgot my password' emails? :~ cheers, Chris Maunder
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Predicting the future is always a bit tricky (where's my personal jetpack that would fly me to work everday without the hassle of gridlocked traffic?) I think one obvious upgrade would be that an AI would quickly match people with the solution to their programming question. If for example, I wanted to know why my control wasn't repainting, the AI would draw from it's database of answers (that other people have posted) and reply that I need to call "RedrawWindow()". It's not that the AI would know the answer on its own, but could quickly match users with an answer in its database of already existing answers. The same would be true of the controls - e.g. "I need a control that acts like a dropdown window, but it..." Maybe all this could be done with voice commands, the AI would be interactive and ask me questions to narrow the search. Oh, and there would be no more programming questions in the lounge that begin with "I posted this in the programming forum, but no one could answer my question. I know I'm not supposed to post here, but..." I'm really not sure that VR or face-to-face lounge chats would add much. It's cool in a gee-whiz kind of way, but does it add much? I think programming will be quite a bit different. I think object oriented programming will still be around, but objects will be more powerful, modular, and have fewer bugs (perhaps they will be tested by AIs). But the process of defining objects will be quite a lot different than today. ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips
Brit wrote: Predicting the future is always a bit tricky Depends on what you are predicting. I predict that everyone who reads this will die! :-D If my prediction doesn't turn out to be true, I will be very impressed in deed.
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You mean in 28 years I'm still going to be sitting here in my bathrobe answering 'I forgot my password' emails? :~ cheers, Chris Maunder
I'm sure you will figure out how to make some kind of AI program take care of that for you.
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You mean in 28 years I'm still going to be sitting here in my bathrobe answering 'I forgot my password' emails? :~ cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: You mean in 28 years I'm still going to be sitting here in my bathrobe answering 'I forgot my password' emails? Yes, but it's going to be a different bathrobe. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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Brit wrote: Predicting the future is always a bit tricky Depends on what you are predicting. I predict that everyone who reads this will die! :-D If my prediction doesn't turn out to be true, I will be very impressed in deed.
I predict that everyone who reads this will die! Damn! I read it. Now, I will die. If my prediction doesn't turn out to be true, I will be very impressed in deed. But, your prediction cannot be proven untrue. Why? Because even if we find a way to eliminate aging, disease, and accidents and we're all sitting around on CP 200,000 years from now, I might still die at some point in the future. In other words, as long as I am alive, there is always the potential for me to die at some undefined point in the future. The only way to prove your prediction wrong is to gain the ability to see the future and see that I live forever. ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips
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Chris Maunder wrote: You mean in 28 years I'm still going to be sitting here in my bathrobe answering 'I forgot my password' emails? Yes, but it's going to be a different bathrobe. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
Yes, but it's going to be a different bathrobe. We hope it will, anyway! ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips