Ok..this is insane (in a good way)
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I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and have been learning the basics...selecting...getting to know the dock..stuff like that. I was feeling adventerous so I used VMWare Converter to grab a copy of a physical XP-based development system that I use (on it is SQL Server, BizTalk, Commerce Server, VS.NET, Office -- the works). I copied VMWare files over to the MacBook when the conversion was done, and installed VMWare Fusion on the MacBook. I held my breath and clicked the huge arrow symbol to start it. Not only did the virtual machine start -- using Unity, I am now able to run VS.NET and all my other stuff as if they are Mac applications -- I don't even see the VM's interface! As if that wasn't enough, I still have 500Mb free RAM even though the VM has 2Gb allocated to it (the MacBook has 4Gb). I am speechless :omg: Why can't we do this in Windows? This is incredible! Thanks for your comments last week - it looks like Mac is indeed the way to go.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
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I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and have been learning the basics...selecting...getting to know the dock..stuff like that. I was feeling adventerous so I used VMWare Converter to grab a copy of a physical XP-based development system that I use (on it is SQL Server, BizTalk, Commerce Server, VS.NET, Office -- the works). I copied VMWare files over to the MacBook when the conversion was done, and installed VMWare Fusion on the MacBook. I held my breath and clicked the huge arrow symbol to start it. Not only did the virtual machine start -- using Unity, I am now able to run VS.NET and all my other stuff as if they are Mac applications -- I don't even see the VM's interface! As if that wasn't enough, I still have 500Mb free RAM even though the VM has 2Gb allocated to it (the MacBook has 4Gb). I am speechless :omg: Why can't we do this in Windows? This is incredible! Thanks for your comments last week - it looks like Mac is indeed the way to go.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture.Wow - where do I get that ? I am off to google VMWare Converter...
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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Wow - where do I get that ? I am off to google VMWare Converter...
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Here ... http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/[^] And it's FREE :-D
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture. -
I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and have been learning the basics...selecting...getting to know the dock..stuff like that. I was feeling adventerous so I used VMWare Converter to grab a copy of a physical XP-based development system that I use (on it is SQL Server, BizTalk, Commerce Server, VS.NET, Office -- the works). I copied VMWare files over to the MacBook when the conversion was done, and installed VMWare Fusion on the MacBook. I held my breath and clicked the huge arrow symbol to start it. Not only did the virtual machine start -- using Unity, I am now able to run VS.NET and all my other stuff as if they are Mac applications -- I don't even see the VM's interface! As if that wasn't enough, I still have 500Mb free RAM even though the VM has 2Gb allocated to it (the MacBook has 4Gb). I am speechless :omg: Why can't we do this in Windows? This is incredible! Thanks for your comments last week - it looks like Mac is indeed the way to go.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture. -
I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and have been learning the basics...selecting...getting to know the dock..stuff like that. I was feeling adventerous so I used VMWare Converter to grab a copy of a physical XP-based development system that I use (on it is SQL Server, BizTalk, Commerce Server, VS.NET, Office -- the works). I copied VMWare files over to the MacBook when the conversion was done, and installed VMWare Fusion on the MacBook. I held my breath and clicked the huge arrow symbol to start it. Not only did the virtual machine start -- using Unity, I am now able to run VS.NET and all my other stuff as if they are Mac applications -- I don't even see the VM's interface! As if that wasn't enough, I still have 500Mb free RAM even though the VM has 2Gb allocated to it (the MacBook has 4Gb). I am speechless :omg: Why can't we do this in Windows? This is incredible! Thanks for your comments last week - it looks like Mac is indeed the way to go.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture.Erik Westermann wrote:
I don't even see the VM's interface!
Both VMWare Player and VPC can run in full screen mode on Windows.
Erik Westermann wrote:
Why can't we do this in Windows?
You can do all this in Windows. At my work we do all our development in VM. What I do not understand is why do you need to buy a Mac to install a Windows VM on it? It has to be a reason here somewhere, I just do not see it.
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Erik Westermann wrote:
I don't even see the VM's interface!
Both VMWare Player and VPC can run in full screen mode on Windows.
Erik Westermann wrote:
Why can't we do this in Windows?
You can do all this in Windows. At my work we do all our development in VM. What I do not understand is why do you need to buy a Mac to install a Windows VM on it? It has to be a reason here somewhere, I just do not see it.
The point is that I am not running it in a full screen window. The VM runs in the background, so there is no visible interface anywhere on the screen. VMWare Fusion sets up an icon on the Dock (like Windows Quick Launch) with the VM's start menu - so you can start applications in the Mac interface as if the are native to Mac (when in fact they are running in the VM). I do this because I want to work with a Mac, but my primary business is in Windows. This approach lets me enjoy the benefits of both.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
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I'm curious how that all works with the EULA's for those products. Is it legit or does it break the license agreements? Cheers, Drew.
Maybe this information will be helpful[^], since everyone has their own unique needs.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture. -
I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and have been learning the basics...selecting...getting to know the dock..stuff like that. I was feeling adventerous so I used VMWare Converter to grab a copy of a physical XP-based development system that I use (on it is SQL Server, BizTalk, Commerce Server, VS.NET, Office -- the works). I copied VMWare files over to the MacBook when the conversion was done, and installed VMWare Fusion on the MacBook. I held my breath and clicked the huge arrow symbol to start it. Not only did the virtual machine start -- using Unity, I am now able to run VS.NET and all my other stuff as if they are Mac applications -- I don't even see the VM's interface! As if that wasn't enough, I still have 500Mb free RAM even though the VM has 2Gb allocated to it (the MacBook has 4Gb). I am speechless :omg: Why can't we do this in Windows? This is incredible! Thanks for your comments last week - it looks like Mac is indeed the way to go.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture. -
The point is that I am not running it in a full screen window. The VM runs in the background, so there is no visible interface anywhere on the screen. VMWare Fusion sets up an icon on the Dock (like Windows Quick Launch) with the VM's start menu - so you can start applications in the Mac interface as if the are native to Mac (when in fact they are running in the VM). I do this because I want to work with a Mac, but my primary business is in Windows. This approach lets me enjoy the benefits of both.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture.I did not know that. Thanks.
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I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and have been learning the basics...selecting...getting to know the dock..stuff like that. I was feeling adventerous so I used VMWare Converter to grab a copy of a physical XP-based development system that I use (on it is SQL Server, BizTalk, Commerce Server, VS.NET, Office -- the works). I copied VMWare files over to the MacBook when the conversion was done, and installed VMWare Fusion on the MacBook. I held my breath and clicked the huge arrow symbol to start it. Not only did the virtual machine start -- using Unity, I am now able to run VS.NET and all my other stuff as if they are Mac applications -- I don't even see the VM's interface! As if that wasn't enough, I still have 500Mb free RAM even though the VM has 2Gb allocated to it (the MacBook has 4Gb). I am speechless :omg: Why can't we do this in Windows? This is incredible! Thanks for your comments last week - it looks like Mac is indeed the way to go.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture.Welcome to the Dark side :)
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Yeah it's pretty cool but my question is what makes you think you can't do that in Windows? (Because you can.)
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot
I suspect he means that he can't (practically) run OS X in Windows.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
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The point is that I am not running it in a full screen window. The VM runs in the background, so there is no visible interface anywhere on the screen. VMWare Fusion sets up an icon on the Dock (like Windows Quick Launch) with the VM's start menu - so you can start applications in the Mac interface as if the are native to Mac (when in fact they are running in the VM). I do this because I want to work with a Mac, but my primary business is in Windows. This approach lets me enjoy the benefits of both.
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture.I'm a PC guy, but that sounds insanely cool. I love VMWare.
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Yeah it's pretty cool but my question is what makes you think you can't do that in Windows? (Because you can.)
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot
Maybe this viedo will clarify... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIApJMzGzDQ[^]
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture. -
Maybe this viedo will clarify... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIApJMzGzDQ[^]
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI ...and lots of other cool TLAs related to integration and architecture.Ahhh! I see. Each windows app can be moved onto the Mac desktop while it's running, seemingly outside the windows virtual machine. That *is* cool. You should have said that in the first place. ;P
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot