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    Patrick Etc
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    Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


    It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      so far from all i have read is...it is a rigorous stressful interview that if you get an offer will be a low balled salary offer or they will just HB1 visa the job... and you want to work there why....

      ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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        Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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        Yusuf
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        It is not end of the world. I've blown so more interviews than I care to remember. Behind every blown opportunity I learned many lessons and I became better person. We learn more by loosing than winning. Look on the bright side of your life. :rose:

        Yusuf

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          so far from all i have read is...it is a rigorous stressful interview that if you get an offer will be a low balled salary offer or they will just HB1 visa the job... and you want to work there why....

          ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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          jgasm wrote:

          want to work there why....

          Exactly. Maybe like 20-25 years ago when it was young.

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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            Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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            Why would you want to work for a company that lost direction and doesn't recognize dedication and talent? ;)

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              It is not end of the world. I've blown so more interviews than I care to remember. Behind every blown opportunity I learned many lessons and I became better person. We learn more by loosing than winning. Look on the bright side of your life. :rose:

              Yusuf

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              Patrick Etc
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              Thanks :) I think I'm coming to the conclusion I suck at phone interviews. I've never obviously blown an in-person interview. Phone though... why the heck would someone expect reading code over the phone to go well?!


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                Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


                It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                Hey, I blew a phone interview once, a Tech interview with the Tech Program Manager. But I had a previous interview with the Program Director early, so after I screwed the pooch on that second interview, I called the director, thanked him for taking the time and effort and briefly explained what happened (I'm not 'book smart' to where I can answer questions asked directly from some tech manual, which that Tech guy wanted, I gave more 'real world' answers and, well he didn't like that.). Well, I spent 3.5 years there as Tech Lead/Manager for the Southern District...never give up hope, but always follow up with the person whom you are working with for the positions, even just to say thanks...

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                  Thanks :) I think I'm coming to the conclusion I suck at phone interviews. I've never obviously blown an in-person interview. Phone though... why the heck would someone expect reading code over the phone to go well?!


                  It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                  my biggest problem with phone interview is, my attention span is very short. I totally hate any thing with phone (phone interview, teleconference) I used to doze in my previous job every week in the status meeting were there were bunch of people on the phone. X|

                  Yusuf

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                    Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


                    It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                    Patty, chill man, so you *think* you blew the phone interview with MS, big deal. Its not the end of the world. Whether MS makes an offer or not is certainly not a reflection of how good of a person and an engineer you are :) And take it from an ex Microsoftie (they recruited me out of university after my internship), working there is seriously over-rated.

                    Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                    Sig history "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation

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                      Patty, chill man, so you *think* you blew the phone interview with MS, big deal. Its not the end of the world. Whether MS makes an offer or not is certainly not a reflection of how good of a person and an engineer you are :) And take it from an ex Microsoftie (they recruited me out of university after my internship), working there is seriously over-rated.

                      Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                      Sig history "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation

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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      Patty, chill man

                      LOL Most people, I would lambaste for calling me that, but that was hilarious so I just have to laugh :)

                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      so you *think* you blew the phone interview

                      Hehe.. point taken.

                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      Whether MS makes an offer or not is certainly not a reflection of how good of a person and an engineer you are

                      Yeah :) It's not like I'm short on prospects. There have just always been a few companies I thought it would be incredible to work for and I never actually thought they'd express interest.

                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      working there is seriously over-rated

                      I had a roommate once who worked at MS. He said the same thing. I think it's just a question of perspective.. once you've worked there it's "just a job" but, for someone on the outside it seems really cool.


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                        Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


                        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                        Patrick S wrote:

                        Blew a phone interview with Microsoft.

                        Uh, Patrick, dude... far be it from me to comment on your interviewing techniques... ...but i'm pretty sure that one only works in person. :rolleyes: (seriously though, cheer up, have a beer, read the sour grapes posts and enjoy the sunshine)

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                          Patrick S wrote:

                          Blew a phone interview with Microsoft.

                          Uh, Patrick, dude... far be it from me to comment on your interviewing techniques... ...but i'm pretty sure that one only works in person. :rolleyes: (seriously though, cheer up, have a beer, read the sour grapes posts and enjoy the sunshine)

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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          Uh, Patrick, dude... far be it from me to comment on your interviewing techniques... ...but i'm pretty sure that one only works in person. :rolleyes:

                          I don't know whether to LOL or X| :)

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          seriously though, cheer up, have a beer, read the sour grapes posts and enjoy the sunshine

                          Pbbbbt. I haven't even begun. Two phone interviews came out of 4-6 hours of work. But, you're probably right that some relaxation is in order ;)


                          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            Patty, chill man

                            LOL Most people, I would lambaste for calling me that, but that was hilarious so I just have to laugh :)

                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            so you *think* you blew the phone interview

                            Hehe.. point taken.

                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            Whether MS makes an offer or not is certainly not a reflection of how good of a person and an engineer you are

                            Yeah :) It's not like I'm short on prospects. There have just always been a few companies I thought it would be incredible to work for and I never actually thought they'd express interest.

                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            working there is seriously over-rated

                            I had a roommate once who worked at MS. He said the same thing. I think it's just a question of perspective.. once you've worked there it's "just a job" but, for someone on the outside it seems really cool.


                            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                            Patrick S wrote:

                            Most people, I would lambaste for calling me that, but that was hilarious so I just have to laugh

                            Lambaste... I haven't heard that word since I left Canada. My grandmother used to threaten my cousins and me with a proper caning like back in her day if we didn't quit our antics :laugh: Good times :) Have to make the crowds laugh man ;)

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                            There have just always been a few companies I thought it would be incredible to work for and I never actually thought they'd express interest.

                            Well, yeah, but from my experience and recently bastard cynical view of life, small innovative companies are THE place to be. Pay might not be so hot but the work will certainly be extremely interesting.

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                            I had a roommate once who worked at MS. He said the same thing.

                            See?

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                            for someone on the outside it seems really cool.

                            Totally. When I was at university, I would have happily slit throats and maimed little furry animals to work at M$.

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                              Hey, I blew a phone interview once, a Tech interview with the Tech Program Manager. But I had a previous interview with the Program Director early, so after I screwed the pooch on that second interview, I called the director, thanked him for taking the time and effort and briefly explained what happened (I'm not 'book smart' to where I can answer questions asked directly from some tech manual, which that Tech guy wanted, I gave more 'real world' answers and, well he didn't like that.). Well, I spent 3.5 years there as Tech Lead/Manager for the Southern District...never give up hope, but always follow up with the person whom you are working with for the positions, even just to say thanks...

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                              This reminds me how much exactly I hate some stupid tests, with questions like: “Please provide the exact names of all classes from MFC, involved in the inter-process communication and tread synchronization”. WTF?!? You do not need from a programmer you idiots; you’re need from a librarian!

                              The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.

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                                It is not end of the world. I've blown so more interviews than I care to remember. Behind every blown opportunity I learned many lessons and I became better person. We learn more by loosing than winning. Look on the bright side of your life. :rose:

                                Yusuf

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                                Yusuf wrote:

                                We learn more by loosing than winning. Look on the bright side of your life.

                                Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

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                                  Blew a phone interview with Microsoft. Sigh.. Ok, my friend (who was here) says I did fine. The interviewer said I did fine (course, he's not going to say "You blew it.") Maybe I'm too hard on myself. Maybe I care too much about the bloody outcome.


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                                  I've come to the conclusion not to make conclusions. I've had phone interviews go great and I never heard another thing, and those I thought I blew and I got a second round.

                                  Blog. http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                                    my biggest problem with phone interview is, my attention span is very short. I totally hate any thing with phone (phone interview, teleconference) I used to doze in my previous job every week in the status meeting were there were bunch of people on the phone. X|

                                    Yusuf

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                                    That's why I take notes at the same time so I can keep on point. Open a word doc and type the key words. I also keep notes on how the interviewer responded.

                                    Blog. http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                                      I've come to the conclusion not to make conclusions. I've had phone interviews go great and I never heard another thing, and those I thought I blew and I got a second round.

                                      Blog. http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                                      leckey wrote:

                                      I've had phone interviews go great and I never heard another thing, and those I thought I blew and I got a second round.

                                      The more I reflect on the phone interviews, the more I pretty much think the same thing. Once the emotions subside, I decide that there's simply no way for me to objectively evaluate how I did (aside from my own standards) or predict a potential outcome. If one of them calls me back, I'll plotz!


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                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        Patty, chill man

                                        LOL Most people, I would lambaste for calling me that, but that was hilarious so I just have to laugh :)

                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        so you *think* you blew the phone interview

                                        Hehe.. point taken.

                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        Whether MS makes an offer or not is certainly not a reflection of how good of a person and an engineer you are

                                        Yeah :) It's not like I'm short on prospects. There have just always been a few companies I thought it would be incredible to work for and I never actually thought they'd express interest.

                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        working there is seriously over-rated

                                        I had a roommate once who worked at MS. He said the same thing. I think it's just a question of perspective.. once you've worked there it's "just a job" but, for someone on the outside it seems really cool.


                                        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                                        Patrick S wrote:

                                        There have just always been a few companies I thought it would be incredible to work for

                                        I actually interviewed a guy who's CV stated (carefully worded) he had worked for MS in the UK (I was working there some years ago) who we held the position open for 2 days so we could interview him, an excellent CV, a total idiot when inteviewed. So he either lied on his CV or worked as the cleaner at the offices. There used to be real value in having MS on the CV, not so sure these days. And ask ANY contractor if they have blown a phone interview :^) You'll get over it and with prospects it will not even impact your lifestyle.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          This reminds me how much exactly I hate some stupid tests, with questions like: “Please provide the exact names of all classes from MFC, involved in the inter-process communication and tread synchronization”. WTF?!? You do not need from a programmer you idiots; you’re need from a librarian!

                                          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.

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                                          Spot on...oh well, that happens though...usually the job suxxors anyway if they're using those types of interview questions...

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