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To destroy Al Qaeda, we must end the war on terror: Rand Corporation

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    Adnan Siddiqi
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    Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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      Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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      Oakman
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      What do you mean we, brown man?

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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        Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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        Shog9 0
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        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

        No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true.

        Are you perhaps referring to the sort of truth that requires you close your eyes, clamp your hands over your ears, and yell "La La La La"?

        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

        p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :)

        :shrug: Have a 3 then. On me. yw...

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        • A Adnan Siddiqi

          Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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          Rob Graham
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          You should have actually read the report before you posted it, because as usual, you got it enteirely wrong. From the study: " Calling the efforts a war on terrorism raises public expectations — both in the United States and elsewhere — that there is a battlefield solution. It also tends to legitimize the terrorists’ view that they are conducting a jihad (holy war) against the United States and elevates them to the status of holy warriors. Terrorists should be perceived as criminals, not holy warriors." See, your buddies are really just common criminals, and should be imprisoned like any other. An the only excuse needed for dumping Islam into the rubbish bin of history is that it is a vile, homophobic, chauvinist, pack of lies promulgated by an intolerant and cruel pedophile.

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            You should have actually read the report before you posted it, because as usual, you got it enteirely wrong. From the study: " Calling the efforts a war on terrorism raises public expectations — both in the United States and elsewhere — that there is a battlefield solution. It also tends to legitimize the terrorists’ view that they are conducting a jihad (holy war) against the United States and elevates them to the status of holy warriors. Terrorists should be perceived as criminals, not holy warriors." See, your buddies are really just common criminals, and should be imprisoned like any other. An the only excuse needed for dumping Islam into the rubbish bin of history is that it is a vile, homophobic, chauvinist, pack of lies promulgated by an intolerant and cruel pedophile.

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            Paul Conrad
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            Rob Graham wrote:

            read the report before you posted it, because as usual, you got it enteirely wrong.

            Does that even surprise you?

            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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              You should have actually read the report before you posted it, because as usual, you got it enteirely wrong. From the study: " Calling the efforts a war on terrorism raises public expectations — both in the United States and elsewhere — that there is a battlefield solution. It also tends to legitimize the terrorists’ view that they are conducting a jihad (holy war) against the United States and elevates them to the status of holy warriors. Terrorists should be perceived as criminals, not holy warriors." See, your buddies are really just common criminals, and should be imprisoned like any other. An the only excuse needed for dumping Islam into the rubbish bin of history is that it is a vile, homophobic, chauvinist, pack of lies promulgated by an intolerant and cruel pedophile.

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              I don't like extreme Catholics. They're responsible for the deaths of probably millions, at a time when the world was in its last revolutionary stage (the Inquisition, the start of world trade). I don't like extreme Christians from the south. They show up on my UC campus and hold these demi-billboards on the lawn proclaiming how "Sinners burn in Hell!" and "Gays, Lesbians, Mormons, etc." specifically are going to burn in hell as well. I would think twice about helping them if they got heat stroke and collapsed. I don't like extreme Islamists, either - they make travel to Egypt or Turkey scary for me, and blow themselves up to kill infidels. See Catholics, minus the whole guilt for suicide thing, or being strongly motivated by wealth. The difference between all of the religions is small. The rituals that Islam has are different than, say, eating the blood and body of jebus, but I'd take a scarf over that any day. But why would you ever [i]ever[/i] hold such inflammatory, vile thoughts like this? (Re: Rob Graham's post). The first country / people / religion that is able to actually get rid of this kind of thinking, to support peace and prosperity (read: good health / satisfaction) for its people will be the last country we ever need. Yes, Oakman, then someone will bomb it off the map, and then where will all the hippies go. I can't hope this will ever be my reality, because we obviously haven't had enough time to evolve away from the need for tribal warfare, as a race. For proof, I'll cite Football in the US, Rugby in NZ / Oceania, Cricket in India / Britain; all these very violent sports that are celebrated at an almost religious level. /steps off soapbox

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              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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                Bassam Saoud
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                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy

                I dont agree with that logic. If that logic is true, whay are those fuckers terorizing lebanon? They are mentally ill and against every culture that is better than them.

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                  I don't like extreme Catholics. They're responsible for the deaths of probably millions, at a time when the world was in its last revolutionary stage (the Inquisition, the start of world trade). I don't like extreme Christians from the south. They show up on my UC campus and hold these demi-billboards on the lawn proclaiming how "Sinners burn in Hell!" and "Gays, Lesbians, Mormons, etc." specifically are going to burn in hell as well. I would think twice about helping them if they got heat stroke and collapsed. I don't like extreme Islamists, either - they make travel to Egypt or Turkey scary for me, and blow themselves up to kill infidels. See Catholics, minus the whole guilt for suicide thing, or being strongly motivated by wealth. The difference between all of the religions is small. The rituals that Islam has are different than, say, eating the blood and body of jebus, but I'd take a scarf over that any day. But why would you ever [i]ever[/i] hold such inflammatory, vile thoughts like this? (Re: Rob Graham's post). The first country / people / religion that is able to actually get rid of this kind of thinking, to support peace and prosperity (read: good health / satisfaction) for its people will be the last country we ever need. Yes, Oakman, then someone will bomb it off the map, and then where will all the hippies go. I can't hope this will ever be my reality, because we obviously haven't had enough time to evolve away from the need for tribal warfare, as a race. For proof, I'll cite Football in the US, Rugby in NZ / Oceania, Cricket in India / Britain; all these very violent sports that are celebrated at an almost religious level. /steps off soapbox

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                  bulg wrote:

                  Yes, Oakman, then someone will bomb it off the map, and then where will all the hippies go.

                  Careful, you're talking about my tree-hugging daughter. ;) I suspect you won't believe this, but most of us who have been anywhere near combat fervently hope that it never occurs again. However, it is just as often folks filled with hatred of all religions who start wars as the fanatics of any one religion. Atheists are, imho, as capable of being True Believers as the most rabid Muslim. And until all you hate-mongerers stop hurling epithets at each other, the odds of peace are relatively low. I suggest that next time you start thinking about how much you dislike this religion or that sport, you ask yourself what there is that might make you more tolerant of them. In the meantime, it would seem to me that you might be awfully glad that there are some folks willing to stand between the hippies and the predators. They're pretty much the only reason you and I get to shoot our mouths off without having to explain ourselves to the Gestapo, or the NKVD.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  • A Adnan Siddiqi

                    Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely.

                    Maybe a program like this would help the billions that are seeking the truth...

                    bool BestReligion(CReligion religion1, CReligion religion2)
                    {
                    if (religion1.start_date > religion2.start_date)
                    return true;

                    return false;
                    }

                    static void main()
                    {
                    List worldReligions = new List();

                    ...
                    CReligion christianity = new CReligion("Christianity", "04/03/33");
                    worldReligions[7] = christianity;
                    ...
                    CReligion islam = new CReligion("Islam", "01/01/622");
                    worldReligions[666] = islam;

                    BestReligion(worldReligions[7], worlReligions[666]);
                    }

                    If the U.S. wanted to get rid of Islam don't you think it would be banned in the U.S.? I have no idea why I wasted 5 minutes of my time writing this.

                    "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

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                      I don't like extreme Catholics. They're responsible for the deaths of probably millions, at a time when the world was in its last revolutionary stage (the Inquisition, the start of world trade). I don't like extreme Christians from the south. They show up on my UC campus and hold these demi-billboards on the lawn proclaiming how "Sinners burn in Hell!" and "Gays, Lesbians, Mormons, etc." specifically are going to burn in hell as well. I would think twice about helping them if they got heat stroke and collapsed. I don't like extreme Islamists, either - they make travel to Egypt or Turkey scary for me, and blow themselves up to kill infidels. See Catholics, minus the whole guilt for suicide thing, or being strongly motivated by wealth. The difference between all of the religions is small. The rituals that Islam has are different than, say, eating the blood and body of jebus, but I'd take a scarf over that any day. But why would you ever [i]ever[/i] hold such inflammatory, vile thoughts like this? (Re: Rob Graham's post). The first country / people / religion that is able to actually get rid of this kind of thinking, to support peace and prosperity (read: good health / satisfaction) for its people will be the last country we ever need. Yes, Oakman, then someone will bomb it off the map, and then where will all the hippies go. I can't hope this will ever be my reality, because we obviously haven't had enough time to evolve away from the need for tribal warfare, as a race. For proof, I'll cite Football in the US, Rugby in NZ / Oceania, Cricket in India / Britain; all these very violent sports that are celebrated at an almost religious level. /steps off soapbox

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                      If you had something to say to Oakman, why did you reply to me?

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                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                        Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely.

                        Maybe a program like this would help the billions that are seeking the truth...

                        bool BestReligion(CReligion religion1, CReligion religion2)
                        {
                        if (religion1.start_date > religion2.start_date)
                        return true;

                        return false;
                        }

                        static void main()
                        {
                        List worldReligions = new List();

                        ...
                        CReligion christianity = new CReligion("Christianity", "04/03/33");
                        worldReligions[7] = christianity;
                        ...
                        CReligion islam = new CReligion("Islam", "01/01/622");
                        worldReligions[666] = islam;

                        BestReligion(worldReligions[7], worlReligions[666]);
                        }

                        If the U.S. wanted to get rid of Islam don't you think it would be banned in the U.S.? I have no idea why I wasted 5 minutes of my time writing this.

                        "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

                        Jason Henderson

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                        So where does Judaism fit into your program? Are you ready to accept that output?

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                          So where does Judaism fit into your program? Are you ready to accept that output?

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                          Jason Henderson
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                          Obviously it wouldn't matter since the youngest religion would always be the best. I guess Scientology or Global Warming would win.

                          "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

                          Jason Henderson

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                            If you had something to say to Oakman, why did you reply to me?

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                            Oakman is the personification of negative one-liners on this forum for me (albeit half the time funny, still generally negative or belligerent). Sorry for the misunderstanding. To shorten my previous comment, why would you say such harsh things about Islam (or any religion)? By doing so, you become a part of the propagation of hate.

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                              Clickety[^] Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely. Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy. No Alqeda, No US. Bitter but true. :rolleyes: p.s: 1 voters are always helpful to prove my point :-)

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                              Reagan Conservative
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                              You're a TOTAL idiot. You couldn't make a logical argument if your life depended on it!

                              John P.

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                                Obviously it wouldn't matter since the youngest religion would always be the best. I guess Scientology or Global Warming would win.

                                "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

                                Jason Henderson

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                                All Hail his noodliness [^]. RAmen

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                                  Oakman is the personification of negative one-liners on this forum for me (albeit half the time funny, still generally negative or belligerent). Sorry for the misunderstanding. To shorten my previous comment, why would you say such harsh things about Islam (or any religion)? By doing so, you become a part of the propagation of hate.

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                                  bulg wrote:

                                  why would you say such harsh things about Islam

                                  Possibly because they are all true? More likely because it irks Adnan. And you.

                                  bulg wrote:

                                  a part of the propagation of hate.

                                  What a crock of shit that is.

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                                    All Hail his noodliness [^]. RAmen

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                                    Fake religions that no one believes but use only to make fun of fundies don't count. Sorry.

                                    "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

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                                      I don't like extreme Catholics. They're responsible for the deaths of probably millions, at a time when the world was in its last revolutionary stage (the Inquisition, the start of world trade). I don't like extreme Christians from the south. They show up on my UC campus and hold these demi-billboards on the lawn proclaiming how "Sinners burn in Hell!" and "Gays, Lesbians, Mormons, etc." specifically are going to burn in hell as well. I would think twice about helping them if they got heat stroke and collapsed. I don't like extreme Islamists, either - they make travel to Egypt or Turkey scary for me, and blow themselves up to kill infidels. See Catholics, minus the whole guilt for suicide thing, or being strongly motivated by wealth. The difference between all of the religions is small. The rituals that Islam has are different than, say, eating the blood and body of jebus, but I'd take a scarf over that any day. But why would you ever [i]ever[/i] hold such inflammatory, vile thoughts like this? (Re: Rob Graham's post). The first country / people / religion that is able to actually get rid of this kind of thinking, to support peace and prosperity (read: good health / satisfaction) for its people will be the last country we ever need. Yes, Oakman, then someone will bomb it off the map, and then where will all the hippies go. I can't hope this will ever be my reality, because we obviously haven't had enough time to evolve away from the need for tribal warfare, as a race. For proof, I'll cite Football in the US, Rugby in NZ / Oceania, Cricket in India / Britain; all these very violent sports that are celebrated at an almost religious level. /steps off soapbox

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                      Cricket is violent? :confused: [EDIT]Sure, there's the occassional disagreement, but cricket's not even a contact sport.[/EDIT]

                                      Cheers, Vıkram.


                                      "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                                        bulg wrote:

                                        why would you say such harsh things about Islam

                                        Possibly because they are all true? More likely because it irks Adnan. And you.

                                        bulg wrote:

                                        a part of the propagation of hate.

                                        What a crock of shit that is.

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                                          Fake religions that no one believes but use only to make fun of fundies don't count. Sorry.

                                          "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

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                                          Spoil sport. :-\

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