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Another Reason To Despise Vista

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  • R RandyBeck

    Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system. They want to change their networking protocols so that in the future any non-Microsoft system will not be compatible with theirs. They want to disable non-Microsoft systems from sharing info with Micirsoft systems, on a network. They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock with this. Yeah, they think that SMB, TCP/IP, and the whole world sharing info in a standardized way is bad. These guys are not playing on a field to help mankind, they just want to milk whatever money they can from those unfortunate enough to not understand what they are doing. On a side note, If asked, I don't even mention any Microsoft Certifications anymore just CCNA and LPIC, et al. With the marketing techniques that they are trying to push I am actually ashamed that I once wrote code using VS. Hey, Did anyone know that Microsoft tried to get a patent for a new email protocol. They basically wanted IEEE to lock out anyone not using a future Microsoft product from being able to send emails. Seriously, If you are a programmer, you should learn what is going on and make a moral and ethical choice to move to FOSS software.

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    Hans Dietrich
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    RandyBeck wrote:

    Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system.

    Do you have any links? I'd like to find out more about this.

    RandyBeck wrote:

    They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock

    Yeah, that's an oldie from Microsoft's playbook. Too bad they don't put as much effort into their QA as they do in their scheming. I'm sure you realize that most of the people here have no choice about what OS to use - it's what their employers want, end of discussion. I personally view Microsoft as god's gift to contractors.

    Best wishes, Hans


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    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

      Steve Echols wrote:

      Let me copy my own files damnit!

      On a related note, I have an old, unused installation of Vista. But my current Vista won't allow me to delete the hibernation file or the page file from the old install because only the system is allowed to do that!

      “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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      Graham Bradshaw
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      Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

      the hibernation file ... from the old install

      How can you have two hibernation files?

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      • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

        xtravagan wrote:

        You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties.

        I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains.

        xtravagan wrote:

        But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.

        I put the file there, so I am the owner. Not trying to delete, just copy, but I should be able to delete them too. It's not like I'm the pentagon or something. This shouldn't be that hard, i.e. I shouldn't have to google it. If I have google it, then their design=fail. At least the error message should tell me possible ways to fix the problem. End rant.


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        Jonathan C Dickinson
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        "I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains." It won't give you access until you grant permissions for Microsoft or the NSA...

        He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Chineese Proverb] Jonathan C Dickinson (C# Software Engineer)

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        • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

          xtravagan wrote:

          You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties.

          I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains.

          xtravagan wrote:

          But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.

          I put the file there, so I am the owner. Not trying to delete, just copy, but I should be able to delete them too. It's not like I'm the pentagon or something. This shouldn't be that hard, i.e. I shouldn't have to google it. If I have google it, then their design=fail. At least the error message should tell me possible ways to fix the problem. End rant.


          - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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          xtravagan
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          You didn't really put it there, the system did, it is just trying to protect itself from people yanking the file out when they shouldn't. Normally you delete these files by disabling paging and disabling hibernate. Deleting the hibernate file can be extremely hazardous as it might contain data you actually want. Not sure how the security tab looks like in all versions of Vista, but in Ultimate you have an advanced button, when you open that you will have an "Owner" tab, where you can take ownership.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...

            they did, however there are a lot of misconceptions about where the problems are. Sometimes the problem requires some software dropped on your non-Vista box to make it work right with Vista. Most people just see the copy problem, assume it was the one advertised well, and hate vista without ever checking how to fix it.

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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            • H Hans Dietrich

              RandyBeck wrote:

              Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system.

              Do you have any links? I'd like to find out more about this.

              RandyBeck wrote:

              They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock

              Yeah, that's an oldie from Microsoft's playbook. Too bad they don't put as much effort into their QA as they do in their scheming. I'm sure you realize that most of the people here have no choice about what OS to use - it's what their employers want, end of discussion. I personally view Microsoft as god's gift to contractors.

              Best wishes, Hans


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              RandyBeck
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              OMG, Links... I read this is Linux Journal or an online article associated with the Free Software Foundation. Great... the squirrels have been scurrying over my stack of magazines. I am now on a mission to find this and will post. I will be able to use this sucker as ammo later on. Though first, I've got to fly out for my sister-in-laws wedding I use a Win XP 64-bit workstation at work, for the sole purpose of running Pro/E Wildfire 4.0 w/Structural and Thermal Simulation and FEA. However, I am talking to the Pro/E Vendors and gathering information, for I will be wiping it out and installing the software on Linux. And yes, for some reason (many little ones), I do miss Visual Studio. However, morally and ethically I am able to sleep quite well for I will not be seeking absolution for any future computing deeds. ... well, I'm off to take part in a wedding and hopefully survive the onslaught of the females and their emotional roller coasters.

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