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  • J Junkie

    1. I have been using VS 6.0 Professional for quite sometime now. Would you recommend if I upgrade to VS.NET Professional? 2. What is its price? and Where can I get cheapest prices for the same package? Thanks, Junkie

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    Simon Walton
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    Unless you want to do .NET development, there are no advantages. It's roughly the same price as VS6 also, probably a bit more.

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    • J Junkie

      1. I have been using VS 6.0 Professional for quite sometime now. Would you recommend if I upgrade to VS.NET Professional? 2. What is its price? and Where can I get cheapest prices for the same package? Thanks, Junkie

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      Chris Maunder
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      Welcome to my parlour, said the spider to the fly :D 1) Absolutely. 2) From us - Details here. We have the cheapest price ($799, including Dundas Tools and the supporter benifits) of the full version but no one can beat Microsoft for the upgrade price (as far as I'm aware they are still offering $300 rebate on the upgrade price, making it under $200). We're itching to be able to offer upgrades but we simply haven't been able. :( cheers, Chris Maunder

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      • J Junkie

        1. I have been using VS 6.0 Professional for quite sometime now. Would you recommend if I upgrade to VS.NET Professional? 2. What is its price? and Where can I get cheapest prices for the same package? Thanks, Junkie

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        James T Johnson
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        Junkie wrote: Would you recommend if I upgrade to VS.NET Professional? Get the trial from MS so you can judge for yourself ;) VS.NET trial[^] James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies

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          Welcome to my parlour, said the spider to the fly :D 1) Absolutely. 2) From us - Details here. We have the cheapest price ($799, including Dundas Tools and the supporter benifits) of the full version but no one can beat Microsoft for the upgrade price (as far as I'm aware they are still offering $300 rebate on the upgrade price, making it under $200). We're itching to be able to offer upgrades but we simply haven't been able. :( cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Anders Molin
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          Chris Maunder wrote: We're itching to be able to offer upgrades but we simply haven't been able. That's too bad, and the only reason that I'm not a CodeProject Supporter :( - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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            Unless you want to do .NET development, there are no advantages. It's roughly the same price as VS6 also, probably a bit more.

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            Chris Maunder
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            Actually I disagree (and this is even without my marketing hat on). If you are writing purely C++ stuff then the advantages you get are a better compiler, better debugging and better error messages. You also get the updated ATL/MFC and WTL libraries. IF you use VB then it's useless. If you write ASP then it's by far the best ASP developement environment out there, with the advantage that you can move onto ASP.NET as soon as you are ready. cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Unless you want to do .NET development, there are no advantages. It's roughly the same price as VS6 also, probably a bit more.

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              Vagif Abilov
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              There are several advantages for VC++ development: - Much improved ATL (including rewritten service support and far better OLE DB provider templates); - Better compiler/debugger/C++ compliance (as Chris already pointed out in his message); - Improved STL implementation (the one that ships with VS6 is way old); - MFC and ATL now share many classes instead of reimplementing them (e.g. CString); - Bug fixes. This alone should be enough to consider upgrade. Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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                Actually I disagree (and this is even without my marketing hat on). If you are writing purely C++ stuff then the advantages you get are a better compiler, better debugging and better error messages. You also get the updated ATL/MFC and WTL libraries. IF you use VB then it's useless. If you write ASP then it's by far the best ASP developement environment out there, with the advantage that you can move onto ASP.NET as soon as you are ready. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Chris Maunder wrote: If you write ASP then it's by far the best ASP developement environment out there Blasphemer! (sp?) What about Dreamweaver?! :rolleyes: I wonder when these people will get the hint...


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                  Chris Maunder wrote: If you write ASP then it's by far the best ASP developement environment out there Blasphemer! (sp?) What about Dreamweaver?! :rolleyes: I wonder when these people will get the hint...


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                  Paul Ingles
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                  I use Dreamweaver MX at work, and although I haven't used it for ASP.NET development, I'd have to say that VS.NET is far nicer for doing that kind of thing. However, it does create applications more akin to a web-based VB form, its not really intended for doing layout etc. as you would expect from a normal website. -- Paul "It's always the last drink that kills you." [a wise man] MS Messenger: paul@oobaloo.co.uk Sonork: 100.22446

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                  • J Junkie

                    1. I have been using VS 6.0 Professional for quite sometime now. Would you recommend if I upgrade to VS.NET Professional? 2. What is its price? and Where can I get cheapest prices for the same package? Thanks, Junkie

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                    Christian Graus
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                    If you're a serious C++ user, it's worth it just for the STL upgrade. If you write web applications then it's worth it for ASP.NET and C# If you're writing code in VB, then you're screwed either way. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002

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                      If you're a serious C++ user, it's worth it just for the STL upgrade. If you write web applications then it's worth it for ASP.NET and C# If you're writing code in VB, then you're screwed either way. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Christian Graus wrote: If you're writing code in VB, then you're screwed either way. Somehow I knew that was coming. ;) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger

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