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BoneSoft wrote:
Whatever happened to Bush's nationalized retirement accounts idea?
Now that Social Security is going to the General Fund, do you think the Democrats and other Liberals are going to pass legislation that would eliminate all that extra money that they can spend buying our votes?
John P.
jparken wrote:
Now that Social Security is going to the General Fund,
I was under the impression that Reagan changed how SS worked for a long time. But in fact, it still works pretty much as it always has: Since 1932, SS has taken in more than it pays out. The difference is deposited in the SS Trust Fund which must, by law, buy US bonds with its cash. This year, like every one before it, SS will put money into the Trust Fund which in turn will go into the general coffers (as it always has) when the bonds are purchased. Until Reagan, the transactions were not recognized as income to the General Fund during the budget process, though they were treated that way once they were received. By recognizing the transactions, of course, Reagan was able to spend more money while not appearing to unbalance the budget (at least no worse than he did.) SS will continue to take in more than it disburses until 2017. In 2018, it will need to start cashing in some of the bonds that it holds. This is the 'problem' that our elected representatives believe they need to solve: an organization with a great deal of political clout is going to expect the U.S. Government to redeem the bonds it has been selling to that organization and its crochety old members or the last 80 years. Unfortunately, these transactions will also have to be recognized at budget time, just like the ones that allowed Reagan to spend more without making a big deal out of it - only these transactions are minuses, not pluses. :omg: If those bonds are redeemed as they should be, then SS will have enough to keep going until 2017. If they aren't, China will start demanding payment as well and that'll be a good time to know your survival skills.
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Could be, might be... blah, blah, blah. Have you actually got something to say about it? Do you wish to dispute what Colin Powell said? Do you want to try to argue that both parties suffer equally from the affliction?
oilFactotum wrote:
Could be, might be... blah, blah, blah. Have you actually got something to say about it?
OK, for the third of fourth time: Your statement was false. You cannot deduce one from the other (not logically anyway). "Could be, might be" were to show some of the myriad possible examples that would disprove your silly statement.
oilFactotum wrote:
Do you wish to dispute what Colin Powell said? Do you want to try to argue that both parties suffer equally from the affliction?
Despite the fact that Colin Powell is obviously the supreme authority on the subject... :rolleyes: Do you want to argue that both parties don't suffer equally from the affliction? Though there's not much point, neither of us knows or has any data on the topic. There are bigots all over the place and a lot of them hide it. Hell, let's not spend a whole second day beating around the bush... Were you trying to say that Republicans are more bigoted that Democrats?
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oilFactotum wrote:
Could be, might be... blah, blah, blah. Have you actually got something to say about it?
OK, for the third of fourth time: Your statement was false. You cannot deduce one from the other (not logically anyway). "Could be, might be" were to show some of the myriad possible examples that would disprove your silly statement.
oilFactotum wrote:
Do you wish to dispute what Colin Powell said? Do you want to try to argue that both parties suffer equally from the affliction?
Despite the fact that Colin Powell is obviously the supreme authority on the subject... :rolleyes: Do you want to argue that both parties don't suffer equally from the affliction? Though there's not much point, neither of us knows or has any data on the topic. There are bigots all over the place and a lot of them hide it. Hell, let's not spend a whole second day beating around the bush... Were you trying to say that Republicans are more bigoted that Democrats?
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BoneSoft wrote:
disprove your silly statement
There was nothing silly about it. You want to ignore the forest for the trees. Ignore the issue and argue symatics. So feel free to repeat yourself four, five and six times. Beating around the bush? What are you talking about? My statement was very direct
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Republicans are opposed to bigotry
oilFactotum wrote:
Never said they weren't. Yet it is clearly an issue within the party.
You can chose to quite playing games and address this point, or not. I'm betting on not. You much prefer to attack what you want me to be saying rather than what I actually say. :rolleyes:
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BoneSoft wrote:
disprove your silly statement
There was nothing silly about it. You want to ignore the forest for the trees. Ignore the issue and argue symatics. So feel free to repeat yourself four, five and six times. Beating around the bush? What are you talking about? My statement was very direct
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Republicans are opposed to bigotry
oilFactotum wrote:
Never said they weren't. Yet it is clearly an issue within the party.
You can chose to quite playing games and address this point, or not. I'm betting on not. You much prefer to attack what you want me to be saying rather than what I actually say. :rolleyes:
It's an issue within the party. Sure, that's correct. Of course it's also correct to say the same of the other party.
oilFactotum wrote:
You much prefer to attack what you want me to be saying rather than what I actually say.
Have you considered the possibility that you just suck at presenting arguments? It's not what I 'want' you to say, it's what you appear to be saying (and it's obviously not just me). I'm sorry, but it's difficult to be you and expect the benifit of the doubt on some things. That may be wrong, but that's the way things are.
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