What would you do in this situation?
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I would like to keep this thread fairly respectful. I'm not here to start a flame war. You are living in a dump with your family with no utilities whatsoever. You get electricity from your vehicle, water and food from the store, and you have a two burner portable propane stove. Your mother died of an overdose of morphine so you want to leave this house. You have been evicted and sued due to an argument with the landlady that ended with you cursing her out. You have several small animals to take care of.. Also you are mostly responsible for your little brother who is also autistic. What do you do?
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I would like to keep this thread fairly respectful. I'm not here to start a flame war. You are living in a dump with your family with no utilities whatsoever. You get electricity from your vehicle, water and food from the store, and you have a two burner portable propane stove. Your mother died of an overdose of morphine so you want to leave this house. You have been evicted and sued due to an argument with the landlady that ended with you cursing her out. You have several small animals to take care of.. Also you are mostly responsible for your little brother who is also autistic. What do you do?
I don't know (nor want to know) what city or state you live in, but I have some suggestions you might consider. 1. Your little brother is the most at risk here, contact the local child welfare agency to get help for him immediately. This may result in them placing your brother in state custody, but at least he will have the food, shelter and medical care you cannot at present provide. If they judge that your household is still tenable, they should be able to provide financial help from one of several Aid for dependant children programs. 2. If you or your grandmother belong to a church, go see the pastor, and ask him to suggest where to go for help with your situation. 3. Take the animals to an animal shelter. You are in no position to care for them, since their support competes with your own. Give them to someone who can afford them. 4. If your mother had worked at all (and paid FICA taxes), contact the local Social Security office to see if you can get any help from Aid For Dependent Children. It will likely not be much, but it is income. 5. If you have been evicted from the present house, you will need new shelter (eventually, the local law enforcement will arrive to physically eject you from the house). Typically you have 90-120 days after receiving the printed legal notice of eviction (the landlady's verbal statement that you are evicted is worthless, she still has to go to court). Again, contact the local state or city welfare agencies (DFCS, etc). 6. Contact Aid for the elderly agencies on behalf of your grandmother. If she is not yet receiving Social Security, find out why. If she is, contact other agencies to see if she qualifies for additional support. The bottom line is that you will have to do some legwork to get help. Social services and welfare help is almost certainly available to someone in your situation, but it won't come to you. You have to seek it out, and may have to keep badgering people until you get what you need. Churches can and will help, don't avoid them because you dislike or distrust religion. Pride is a luxury you cant afford. Good luck, we'll all be pulling for you.
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Vote for Obama and wait to be taken care of by me.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Damn, Stan, how cruel of you to make him wait! Write a check immediately!
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I would like to keep this thread fairly respectful. I'm not here to start a flame war. You are living in a dump with your family with no utilities whatsoever. You get electricity from your vehicle, water and food from the store, and you have a two burner portable propane stove. Your mother died of an overdose of morphine so you want to leave this house. You have been evicted and sued due to an argument with the landlady that ended with you cursing her out. You have several small animals to take care of.. Also you are mostly responsible for your little brother who is also autistic. What do you do?
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I would like to keep this thread fairly respectful. I'm not here to start a flame war. You are living in a dump with your family with no utilities whatsoever. You get electricity from your vehicle, water and food from the store, and you have a two burner portable propane stove. Your mother died of an overdose of morphine so you want to leave this house. You have been evicted and sued due to an argument with the landlady that ended with you cursing her out. You have several small animals to take care of.. Also you are mostly responsible for your little brother who is also autistic. What do you do?
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Write a book about how shitty life can be. Then get it made into a film?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
We didn't even think twice before we signed the lease.
And that is your landlord's fault?
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
my grandmother basically lost her mind because she stopped taking her medications
Isn't that your fault?
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
she sees me as money instead of someone who needs to get out of this terrible house.
You're a tenant. That's a source of income. The incomes allows her to pay the mortgage and taxes on that "terrible house." If she wants to give to a charity, she'll pick and choose which one and how much, rather than allow you to freeload at her expense. Since your father owns a business and was providing you with free rent until you decided you didn't need him any more, why aren't you going to him with your tale of woe?
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I'm not going to correct you in this case... Also he isn't the type of person to give me money. I am fine, and I will be fine as always. I just wanted to see how others would handle the situation and see what kind of input they have so I can perhaps get a few fresh ideas. You ran to your father whenever you needed money?
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I don't know (nor want to know) what city or state you live in, but I have some suggestions you might consider. 1. Your little brother is the most at risk here, contact the local child welfare agency to get help for him immediately. This may result in them placing your brother in state custody, but at least he will have the food, shelter and medical care you cannot at present provide. If they judge that your household is still tenable, they should be able to provide financial help from one of several Aid for dependant children programs. 2. If you or your grandmother belong to a church, go see the pastor, and ask him to suggest where to go for help with your situation. 3. Take the animals to an animal shelter. You are in no position to care for them, since their support competes with your own. Give them to someone who can afford them. 4. If your mother had worked at all (and paid FICA taxes), contact the local Social Security office to see if you can get any help from Aid For Dependent Children. It will likely not be much, but it is income. 5. If you have been evicted from the present house, you will need new shelter (eventually, the local law enforcement will arrive to physically eject you from the house). Typically you have 90-120 days after receiving the printed legal notice of eviction (the landlady's verbal statement that you are evicted is worthless, she still has to go to court). Again, contact the local state or city welfare agencies (DFCS, etc). 6. Contact Aid for the elderly agencies on behalf of your grandmother. If she is not yet receiving Social Security, find out why. If she is, contact other agencies to see if she qualifies for additional support. The bottom line is that you will have to do some legwork to get help. Social services and welfare help is almost certainly available to someone in your situation, but it won't come to you. You have to seek it out, and may have to keep badgering people until you get what you need. Churches can and will help, don't avoid them because you dislike or distrust religion. Pride is a luxury you cant afford. Good luck, we'll all be pulling for you.
My little brother is 18 and he collects SSI even though he is not that bad. We are perfectly alright, even the animals.
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I'm not going to correct you in this case... Also he isn't the type of person to give me money. I am fine, and I will be fine as always. I just wanted to see how others would handle the situation and see what kind of input they have so I can perhaps get a few fresh ideas. You ran to your father whenever you needed money?
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
I'm not going to correct you in this case...
You can't. I was right.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Also he isn't the type of person to give me money.
He gave you housing.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
I am fine, and I will be fine as always.
If you were telling the truth, something I have grave doubts about, you are not fine. You are in deep shit that's about to get deeper.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You ran to your father whenever you needed money?
Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Write a book about how shitty life can be. Then get it made into a film?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
I'm not going to correct you in this case...
You can't. I was right.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Also he isn't the type of person to give me money.
He gave you housing.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
I am fine, and I will be fine as always.
If you were telling the truth, something I have grave doubts about, you are not fine. You are in deep shit that's about to get deeper.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You ran to your father whenever you needed money?
Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.
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Oakman wrote:
Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.
I see, so you rode on the back of your grandfather's hard earned money until you were 25. Gotcha.
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Oakman wrote:
Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.
I see, so you rode on the back of your grandfather's hard earned money until you were 25. Gotcha.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
I see, so you rode on the back of your grandfather's hard earned money until you were 25.
Sounds like you're a wee bit jealous. I don't know how hard it was to earn. He was EVP of New York Central and pretty much sat around in his large office in Grand Central Station all day. But yes, I had a cushion until I was 25. I was able not to touch it while I was in the service, so it was a pretty nice cushion when I got out. A year later I was running a company for someone else and two years after that I was running my own company. You think perhaps I don't know what it's like to be a druggie sucking at Uncle Sugar's tit and stealing food while working as a short order cook? Fucking A, I don't.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Oh, now you're a willing socialist? TRAITOR!
Oh, believe me, I will be resisting in every possible effective manner available to me.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. If you are a religious man take guidance from the following : "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"
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helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. If you are a religious man take guidance from the following : "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"
Sahir Shah wrote:
helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :
No one said it was.
Sahir Shah wrote:
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"
Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Sahir Shah wrote:
helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :
No one said it was.
Sahir Shah wrote:
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"
Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
We are far more generous than muslims are.
yeah yeah, referring Muslims clearly depicts why did you refer them. :rolleyes:
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Sahir Shah wrote:
helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :
No one said it was.
Sahir Shah wrote:
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"
Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
I didn't get that. You are a muslim ? You seem to be a bad one then. Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?
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Sahir Shah wrote:
helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :
No one said it was.
Sahir Shah wrote:
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"
Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
I didn't get that. You are a muslim ? You seem to be a bad one then. Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?
Sahir Shah wrote:
You are a muslim ?
No.
Sahir Shah wrote:
Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?
My religion is not of this world, but of the next.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.
When did you become a Christian?
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Oakman wrote:
When did you become a Christian?
You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.
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Oakman wrote:
When did you become a Christian?
You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.
Sahir Shah wrote:
You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.
Y'know I've accused Stan of many things, up to and including mopery and dopery. But never of being a Muslim. You have a great imagination.
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