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  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

    Paul Conrad wrote:

    I've looked at Cal-Tech and almost keeled over at the tuition cost.

    What tuition cost? :confused: At the PhD level, IF (and that's a mighty big IF) you do get accepted in (it, Brown and Princeton are the most selective universities) PhD tuition is paid for, even for out of state folks or internationals like me.

    Paul Conrad wrote:

    Carnegie-Mellon would be sweet

    Like candy :) I'd nearly do anything to get accepted there. Again, same deal as with CalTech for the PhD tuition, in fact, almost all universities in the states have that.

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

    What tuition cost?

    Get in on a fellowship then it doesn't matter. It is something to keep in mind if you do not get a fellowship or it comes up short.

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      What tuition cost?

      Get in on a fellowship then it doesn't matter. It is something to keep in mind if you do not get a fellowship or it comes up short.

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      I called them man. All PhD students are supported through fellowships, TA-ships and/or RA-ships. You think I could afford a PhD there if it weren't for that? Besides, that's why my safety schools are in Missouri (Columbia), Albany, Tennessee (Knoxville), Virginia and Georgia (Athens) Off of the CalTech website: Are stipends available for graduate students? In general, students offered admission to graduate study at Caltech are simultaneously offered a package of financial support that pays all tuition charges and provides them with a stipend. Financial support for graduate students comes in the form of fellowships, research assistantships, teaching assistantship, or some combination of fellowship and assistantship support. In most cases financial assistance is awarded on an annual basis, but there are also multi-year fellowships available. In any case, Caltech guarantees that the stipends that students receive in subsequent years of graduate study are as great or greater than their stipend for the first year. A separate application for requesting financial aid is not required. Applicants requesting additional information on financial assistance may contact the Office of the Dean of Graduate Studies at (###) ###-####. Source: http://www.cs.caltech.edu/faq.html[^] (Fourth from the bottom)

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        I called them man. All PhD students are supported through fellowships, TA-ships and/or RA-ships. You think I could afford a PhD there if it weren't for that? Besides, that's why my safety schools are in Missouri (Columbia), Albany, Tennessee (Knoxville), Virginia and Georgia (Athens) Off of the CalTech website: Are stipends available for graduate students? In general, students offered admission to graduate study at Caltech are simultaneously offered a package of financial support that pays all tuition charges and provides them with a stipend. Financial support for graduate students comes in the form of fellowships, research assistantships, teaching assistantship, or some combination of fellowship and assistantship support. In most cases financial assistance is awarded on an annual basis, but there are also multi-year fellowships available. In any case, Caltech guarantees that the stipends that students receive in subsequent years of graduate study are as great or greater than their stipend for the first year. A separate application for requesting financial aid is not required. Applicants requesting additional information on financial assistance may contact the Office of the Dean of Graduate Studies at (###) ###-####. Source: http://www.cs.caltech.edu/faq.html[^] (Fourth from the bottom)

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        Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at them again. I did look at UCR (University Cal, Riverside) and they are a potential option as well.

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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          Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at them again. I did look at UCR (University Cal, Riverside) and they are a potential option as well.

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          No worries bro. I met a guy that graduated from UCR, biggest pompous jackass I've ever had the misfortune of meeting. Tainted the whole school for me.

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          • P Paul Conrad

            That would be cool. You could have honors of trying to implement something like that.

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            Lutoslaw
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            One time I had an idea to implement all maths I study, but there had been so much of it that after a month I had five another issues to think of... BTW there are ready-to-use free software which do that[^].

            Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.

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            • L Lutoslaw

              One time I had an idea to implement all maths I study, but there had been so much of it that after a month I had five another issues to think of... BTW there are ready-to-use free software which do that[^].

              Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.

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              gajatko wrote:

              One time I had an idea to implement all maths I study, but there had been so much of it that after a month I had five another issues to think of...

              I know what you mean. I've had many ideas that came to mind, but other more important tasks ended up taking priority. Cool link (the Maxima one looks really cool) :-D

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                No worries bro. I met a guy that graduated from UCR, biggest pompous jackass I've ever had the misfortune of meeting. Tainted the whole school for me.

                Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


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                Lutoslaw
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                This curved line of replies is cool. I really like it. Best wishes to CP team. Hmmm what formula does it use? Look's like a logarithmic one. ;)

                Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.

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                • P Paul Conrad

                  :laugh: Naaaw. Been hacking and coughing the last two days but it's just allergies :laugh:

                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                  Gary R Wheeler
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                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                  it's just allergies

                  Are you sure? Can you properly differentiate that from a reaction to post-algebraic mathematics? :rim-shot:

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                  • P Paul Conrad

                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                    Have never had an automata class

                    Lucky you. For my Master's work, it was a required course.

                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                    he uses the word I

                    I would find that bothersome.

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    Master's in what?

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                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                      it's just allergies

                      Are you sure? Can you properly differentiate that from a reaction to post-algebraic mathematics? :rim-shot:

                      Software Zen: delete this;
                      Fold With Us![^]

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                      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                      Are you sure?

                      Yep. Allergies had nothing to do with math, but the dry and windy weather does.

                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                        Master's in what?

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                        Paul Conrad
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                        In Computer Science.

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                        • L Lutoslaw

                          This curved line of replies is cool. I really like it. Best wishes to CP team. Hmmm what formula does it use? Look's like a logarithmic one. ;)

                          Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.

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                          Yeah, it's really cool :-D

                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                          • P Paul Conrad

                            In Computer Science.

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            Ahh. My BS and one MS degrees were in Mathematics. Automata never came into play. None of the CS classes I took had it either. I definitely would have enjoyed it if I took it.

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              Ahh. My BS and one MS degrees were in Mathematics. Automata never came into play. None of the CS classes I took had it either. I definitely would have enjoyed it if I took it.

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                              The fellow who taught the automata course I was in, had a Bachelors in math, Masters and PhD in CS. He did a really good job at explaining it, and bridging both CS and Math together in terms of automata theory.

                              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                              • L Lutoslaw

                                This curved line of replies is cool. I really like it. Best wishes to CP team. Hmmm what formula does it use? Look's like a logarithmic one. ;)

                                Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.

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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                More like ln because the curve because more slight as the x (number of posts) increases :D

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                                • L Lutoslaw

                                  This curved line of replies is cool. I really like it. Best wishes to CP team. Hmmm what formula does it use? Look's like a logarithmic one. ;)

                                  Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.

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                                  And you broke it :sigh:

                                  -= Reelix =-

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                                  • P Paul Conrad

                                    I've looked at Cal-Tech and almost keeled over at the tuition cost. Nice that they are only about 30 minutes from here. Carnegie-Mellon would be sweet since I've studied the PSP (Personal Software Process) a bit and that is where it was started.

                                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                    PSP? Have you tried using that in a practical working environment? Its all fine in Academia, but a tremendous burden when you actually try to apply the principals to what you are working on.

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                                      PSP? Have you tried using that in a practical working environment? Its all fine in Academia, but a tremendous burden when you actually try to apply the principals to what you are working on.

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                                      Member 4593559 wrote:

                                      Have you tried using that in a practical working environment?

                                      Yes.

                                      Member 4593559 wrote:

                                      tremendous burden when you actually try to apply the principals to what you are working on.

                                      Not necessarily so if you have automated tools doing the drudgery work for you.

                                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                        Member 4593559 wrote:

                                        Have you tried using that in a practical working environment?

                                        Yes.

                                        Member 4593559 wrote:

                                        tremendous burden when you actually try to apply the principals to what you are working on.

                                        Not necessarily so if you have automated tools doing the drudgery work for you.

                                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                        I'd be interested to know what automated tools you are using. Currently we are using the PSP Dashboard, which is an Open source project, as it seems to be the only tool out there that sufficiently covers the tenets of PSP, but even that I find to be cumbersome and not much use. Of the data I have collected using PSP, none of it seems to have any intrinsic value when it comes to predicting how long my next project will take or how big it will be, and it just seems like an awful lot of red tape for little or no gain. It also seems that the originators of the whole Concept of PSP have no interest in creating software that actually uses the principals that they espouse. The spreadsheets that come with the course notes for PSP and TSP are laughable. If there is another automated tool that is freely or commercially available, I would be interested to hear about it. :)

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                                          I'd be interested to know what automated tools you are using. Currently we are using the PSP Dashboard, which is an Open source project, as it seems to be the only tool out there that sufficiently covers the tenets of PSP, but even that I find to be cumbersome and not much use. Of the data I have collected using PSP, none of it seems to have any intrinsic value when it comes to predicting how long my next project will take or how big it will be, and it just seems like an awful lot of red tape for little or no gain. It also seems that the originators of the whole Concept of PSP have no interest in creating software that actually uses the principals that they espouse. The spreadsheets that come with the course notes for PSP and TSP are laughable. If there is another automated tool that is freely or commercially available, I would be interested to hear about it. :)

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                                          Member 4593559 wrote:

                                          I'd be interested to know what automated tools you are using. Currently we are using the PSP Dashboard, which is an Open source project

                                          It is a combination of a VS line counter plugin I found and PSP Dashboard/Excel. Not exactly the prettiest, but it does okay since my shop is small. Not sure about yours. The only thing that still bugs me after being introduced to PSP in 2003 and doing my Master's Thesis on it, is the notion of the defect tracking. When talking about how many errors per 1k/loc, are we talking about silly little errors, or logical runtime errors that are found? Never been 100% clear on that. I've just filed it as something that is decided by the user of PSP. I lean towards the logical errors, because counting syntax errors based on a missing semicolon or curly brace is rather pointless. Counting syntax errors just shows how crappy of a typer someone can be, but the logical errors are what is really more important.

                                          Member 4593559 wrote:

                                          Of the data I have collected using PSP, none of it seems to have any intrinsic value when it comes to predicting how long my next project will take or how big it will be, and it just seems like an awful lot of red tape for little or no gain.

                                          I know what you mean. Most of my client work I do has been fairly well predictable with and without PSP.

                                          Member 4593559 wrote:

                                          The spreadsheets that come with the course notes for PSP and TSP are laughable

                                          I agree. I cannot begin to say how many times I've taken an Excel spreadsheet and tweak it around.

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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