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  • J John M Drescher

    I would say Qt but I am not a windows only programmer any more.

    John

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    Qt? The C++ UI by Trolltech?

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      VB6 ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      I have no comments. You've not had to fix as much crap VB5-6 code as I had to. The horrors.

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      • C Christian Graus

        Damn - someone beat me to it. Your post was first on the next page, I didn't see it when I made mine....

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        Henry Minute
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        Given the time difference, I probably had the advantage of being awake!

        Henry Minute Never read Medical books. You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain

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        • M MrPlankton

          We are always looking for SAS programmers. I have started studying it myself, but you have to be a freak'n statistical analyst to understand this stuff (which I'm not). 2 cents.

          MrPlankton

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          (good guy)"Which is where?"

          (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
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          GuyThiebaut
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          I've been using SAS for the past three months. It was quite a paradigm shift and date handling is just a real pain - you have a point though - SAS programmers are rare and in demand.

          Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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          • M MrPlankton

            We are always looking for SAS programmers. I have started studying it myself, but you have to be a freak'n statistical analyst to understand this stuff (which I'm not). 2 cents.

            MrPlankton

            (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

            (good guy)"Which is where?"

            (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
            Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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            I've been reading and hearing about how SAS and SAP developers are in demand. I don't even know where to start learning that stuff, any ideas?

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            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

              Qt? The C++ UI by Trolltech?

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              John M Drescher
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              Yes. If you have done MFC programming you will be amazed at how much functionality Qt has and how easy it is to build an application that will run on windows, mac and linux without code modifications.

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                I've been reading and hearing about how SAS and SAP developers are in demand. I don't even know where to start learning that stuff, any ideas?

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                Lost User
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                As a start you could look here http://sastutorials.blogspot.com/[^]

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                • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                  I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  To be honest, I'd jump right into WPF and Silverlight if I were you. They are starting to gain traction, and they are very good.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                  • M MrPlankton

                    We are always looking for SAS programmers. I have started studying it myself, but you have to be a freak'n statistical analyst to understand this stuff (which I'm not). 2 cents.

                    MrPlankton

                    (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                    (good guy)"Which is where?"

                    (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                    Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    There a reason for that SAS (and SAP I believe) are one of the most convoluted and badly designed systems enterprise has ever been landed with.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                      I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.

                      Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                      Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

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                      Graham Shanks
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                      Hit the law books - you can't be worse than some practising lawyers you know :-)

                      Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                        I've been reading and hearing about how SAS and SAP developers are in demand. I don't even know where to start learning that stuff, any ideas?

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        A colleague of mine spent 3 months getting to know the BI portion of SAS (with Oracle it took him 6 days to achieve the same thing). I was relieved when he chucked it out, the stress level in the office diminished remarkably.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          To be honest, I'd jump right into WPF and Silverlight if I were you. They are starting to gain traction, and they are very good.

                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                          Sun's brand new JavaFX could be interesting as a competitor to both Silverlight and Flash http://javafx.com/[^]

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                          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                            I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.

                            Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                            Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

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                            Todd Smith
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                            If you're interested in web programming the new ASP.NET MVC architecture sure is purty. I would look into the following goop: C# Desktop application -> Web Service -> Business Layer -> Database Web Application (WebForms or MVC) -> Business Layer -> Database In this case the Business Layer and Database can be shared/reused by both UI's. That should keep you busy for a while :D

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                            • M Mycroft Holmes

                              There a reason for that SAS (and SAP I believe) are one of the most convoluted and badly designed systems enterprise has ever been landed with.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                              badly designed systems enterprise has ever been landed with.

                              paying $80 to $110 (USA) an hour for SAS talent. SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt. That being said statisticians love SAS. I work with SAS programmers who use brief to edit code and PREFER THE COMMAND LINE. But SAS offers many utilities for statisticians to analyze large amounts of data "proc survey means" and it will be a player for quite a few years. ---NOTE--- When looking for SAS job, you don’t' apply like you are a "sas" programmer but rather you are an analyst in some subject matter universe (like morbidity and mortality). That being said we interviewed a lady just out of college who played with SAS for her thesis and we are willing to offer her $60k and we are cheap basturds.

                              MrPlankton

                              (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                              (good guy)"Which is where?"

                              (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                              Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                badly designed systems enterprise has ever been landed with.

                                paying $80 to $110 (USA) an hour for SAS talent. SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt. That being said statisticians love SAS. I work with SAS programmers who use brief to edit code and PREFER THE COMMAND LINE. But SAS offers many utilities for statisticians to analyze large amounts of data "proc survey means" and it will be a player for quite a few years. ---NOTE--- When looking for SAS job, you don’t' apply like you are a "sas" programmer but rather you are an analyst in some subject matter universe (like morbidity and mortality). That being said we interviewed a lady just out of college who played with SAS for her thesis and we are willing to offer her $60k and we are cheap basturds.

                                MrPlankton

                                (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                                (good guy)"Which is where?"

                                (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                                Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                                Mycroft Holmes
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                                Oh I don't disagree that it pays well and there is an excellent market out there for talented SAS people. Having seen a good/excellent DBA struggle with SAS BI for 3 months to acheive some results which he then duplicated in 6 days using Oracle I question it's productivity. Even taking into account the fact that he was repeating the process the disparity was just too much. He did however state at the end that given the resources he could get more out of SAS than Oracle. The sticking point was the resources, SAS recommended 5 people to develop and support the requirements within the specified time frame. Oracle put forward 2 people (and they had lower rates).

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                  I've been reading and hearing about how SAS and SAP developers are in demand. I don't even know where to start learning that stuff, any ideas?

                                  Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                                  Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

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                                  We have an enterprise license so I go through the help files. I don't know what you do if you are on the outside. You would think that they would have some free tools to allow students to learn this stuff.

                                  MrPlankton

                                  (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                                  (good guy)"Which is where?"

                                  (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                                  Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                    I have no comments. You've not had to fix as much crap VB5-6 code as I had to. The horrors.

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                                    I am working in VB6. :( But yesterday I got a hint. I suggested making a new dll for encrypting data in VB6 and I was told: "Make it in .Net. We are migrating soon." :-D

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                                    • J John M Drescher

                                      Yes. If you have done MFC programming you will be amazed at how much functionality Qt has and how easy it is to build an application that will run on windows, mac and linux without code modifications.

                                      John

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                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                      Thanks John, downloaded the OS version and I'll play with it when I get the chance :)

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                                        I am working in VB6. :( But yesterday I got a hint. I suggested making a new dll for encrypting data in VB6 and I was told: "Make it in .Net. We are migrating soon." :-D

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                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                        d@nish wrote:

                                        I am working in VB6

                                        You have my sympathies. But I have to ask, what the heck are you working in this day and age that's being done in VB6?!!! Please tell me its legacy support and not something new...

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                                        • CPalliniC CPallini

                                          C. :)

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                                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                          Always a favorite, but the last time I used C out of academia was when I was working in telecommunications.

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