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    As in Letter of recommendation[^]

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    Ah, gotcha! Much obliged my friend :)

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      taking 4 subjects this semester

      4! :wtf: Try:

      • Analogue Electronics II (hard)
      • Digital Electronics II (very hard)
      • Electrical Power Engineering (easy)
      • Mathematics II (moderate)
      • Introduction to Computer Architecture (easy)
      • Technical Communication (easy)
      • Computing Labs (easy)
      • Electronic Labs (moderate)
      • Spanish (moderate)
      • Group Project
      • Lab Project

      This term we have:

      • Fields & Devices
      • Communications 2
      • Signals & Linear Systems
      • Control Engineering
      • Mathematics 2
      • Algorithms & Data Structures
      • Technical Communication
      • Electronics Lab
      • Computing Lab
      • Group Project
      • Lab Project
      • Spanish

      See here[^] and the work-load is insane and so is the timetable (16 hours lectures (+3 for language), 8 hours labs, 1 hour tutorial, 5 hours Study Groups).

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      That looks like a typical workload for my alma mater, Cal Poly, Pomona, CA, USA. Even then it still took 5 years to complete the degree, and graduating was like an extended vacation with only two jobs to worry about. I find it curious that you rate Digital Electronics Very Hard, and Analog only Hard. I found the opposite to be true; anyone with two fingers and a background in analog can teach himself digital easily. The opposite course would take a genius to master, as so much on critical importance is left out of the digital courses. The only thing hard about anything digital is mastering the discrete mathematics required, and that takes a somewhat different way of thinking about the world. Very interesting stuff, especially around boundary conditions. Good luck! It looks like a fun program. :-D

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        That looks like a typical workload for my alma mater, Cal Poly, Pomona, CA, USA. Even then it still took 5 years to complete the degree, and graduating was like an extended vacation with only two jobs to worry about. I find it curious that you rate Digital Electronics Very Hard, and Analog only Hard. I found the opposite to be true; anyone with two fingers and a background in analog can teach himself digital easily. The opposite course would take a genius to master, as so much on critical importance is left out of the digital courses. The only thing hard about anything digital is mastering the discrete mathematics required, and that takes a somewhat different way of thinking about the world. Very interesting stuff, especially around boundary conditions. Good luck! It looks like a fun program. :-D

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        Roger Wright wrote:

        I find it curious that you rate Digital Electronics Very Hard, and Analog only Hard

        At the moment it's just there are so many places where you can slip up on things in the digital. Timing diagrams X| (including the ability to spot potentials for glitches, plus these are hand-drawn), state diagrams with 1000s of differemt ways of rendering them. This terms analogue is basically generalising on what we covered last year (broadly speaking BJT, FETs, Amplifiers etc) and building on these when the generalisation has been made.  Basically Pappavasiliou (or however you spell his name) is teaching us all the useful and pratical engineering shortcuts / tricks for doing the analogue stuff we did last year where we had to derive / memorise 100s of formulae. I don't think the subject material is particularly hard, it's the rate at which we cover it. For instance by the end of this year we'll have covered more Maths than all the other departments (including Maths) put together. Ok we focus on the practical aspects and don't bother proving stuff but we've still covered a huge array of topics. The biggest issue is simply the quantity and rate at which we cover material because it's been widely acknowledged in Britain that our Electronics degree covers what other Unis do in three or four seperate degrees. Hence why we're the best :rolleyes:

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        Good luck! It looks like a fun program. Big Grin

        It is fun (some of the time :rolleyes:), the best bit is actually knowing that our extra-curricular activities (in my case shooting, climbing and a few other sports) are backed by one of the richest Unis in Britain.  A few years ago our Union made an "accidental" profit of a few million pounds (they're not supposed to make too much profit because it's meant to go back into the students). Plus we get about £5.5 billion in research grants alone per annum (~£55 million for EE department).

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          Roger Wright wrote:

          I find it curious that you rate Digital Electronics Very Hard, and Analog only Hard

          At the moment it's just there are so many places where you can slip up on things in the digital. Timing diagrams X| (including the ability to spot potentials for glitches, plus these are hand-drawn), state diagrams with 1000s of differemt ways of rendering them. This terms analogue is basically generalising on what we covered last year (broadly speaking BJT, FETs, Amplifiers etc) and building on these when the generalisation has been made.  Basically Pappavasiliou (or however you spell his name) is teaching us all the useful and pratical engineering shortcuts / tricks for doing the analogue stuff we did last year where we had to derive / memorise 100s of formulae. I don't think the subject material is particularly hard, it's the rate at which we cover it. For instance by the end of this year we'll have covered more Maths than all the other departments (including Maths) put together. Ok we focus on the practical aspects and don't bother proving stuff but we've still covered a huge array of topics. The biggest issue is simply the quantity and rate at which we cover material because it's been widely acknowledged in Britain that our Electronics degree covers what other Unis do in three or four seperate degrees. Hence why we're the best :rolleyes:

          Roger Wright wrote:

          Good luck! It looks like a fun program. Big Grin

          It is fun (some of the time :rolleyes:), the best bit is actually knowing that our extra-curricular activities (in my case shooting, climbing and a few other sports) are backed by one of the richest Unis in Britain.  A few years ago our Union made an "accidental" profit of a few million pounds (they're not supposed to make too much profit because it's meant to go back into the students). Plus we get about £5.5 billion in research grants alone per annum (~£55 million for EE department).

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          Ed.Poore wrote:

          Timing diagrams

          Those were fun; compared to the analog classes, that was like playing in kindergarten. Eliminating race conditions (or potential ones) was particularly entertaining. But I always found what is happening between zero and one most interesting, and the whys of it. I was constantly surprised after I graduated that the digital weenies had so much trouble moving their precious ones and zeroes from place to place in the real world. It turned out that none of them ever looked at the transition region of the devices they were so blithely saturating, and few would know a neper from a leper. Saving digital guys' asses became something of a trademark for me in my early engineering years. A couple of uH here, and few nF there and - bingo - nice well behaved digital waveforms at the receiving end. They all thought it was black magic. :-D It sounds like you have a great school, and an opportunity few ever encounter to really become expert in a challenging field of study. I hope you make the most of it, and have great fun along the way. I sure did... :)

          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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            Ed.Poore wrote:

            Timing diagrams

            Those were fun; compared to the analog classes, that was like playing in kindergarten. Eliminating race conditions (or potential ones) was particularly entertaining. But I always found what is happening between zero and one most interesting, and the whys of it. I was constantly surprised after I graduated that the digital weenies had so much trouble moving their precious ones and zeroes from place to place in the real world. It turned out that none of them ever looked at the transition region of the devices they were so blithely saturating, and few would know a neper from a leper. Saving digital guys' asses became something of a trademark for me in my early engineering years. A couple of uH here, and few nF there and - bingo - nice well behaved digital waveforms at the receiving end. They all thought it was black magic. :-D It sounds like you have a great school, and an opportunity few ever encounter to really become expert in a challenging field of study. I hope you make the most of it, and have great fun along the way. I sure did... :)

            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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            Oh I'm having fun alright, when I get the chance to. At least we're being taught by some of the best in the world. Apparently our Maths lecturer is one of the best on complex numbers, vector algebra and that kind of thing (few theorems named after him). One of the lecturers you might have heard about was Dr Tom Pike[^]. Plus we've also had some famous people[^] (perhaps the most famous of which in recent years was Brian May :cool:).


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