Just venting
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Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
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Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - BizTalk Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI * SaaS ... forget the alphabet soup - get the main course with our consulting services!
wWorkflow.net or +1 416-809-1453 -
Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - BizTalk Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI * SaaS ... forget the alphabet soup - get the main course with our consulting services!
wWorkflow.net or +1 416-809-1453Start wearing a motorbike helmet. If someone asks, tell him that the company dress code doesn’t explicitly forbid that and that you suffer from obsession about the ugly shape of your ears and need to hide them.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - BizTalk Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI * SaaS ... forget the alphabet soup - get the main course with our consulting services!
wWorkflow.net or +1 416-809-1453Hindi grammar is terrible. I can never remember if a movie or a table is masculine or feminine. Worse still, there are glaring exceptions: 'army' is feminine. You will hardly find any educated Indian who speaks any Indian language without lapsing into English. Although the Malayalis seem to be an exception... (take a bow, Nish) Happy New Year!
Cheers, Vıkram.
Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Shut up to be appreciated.
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Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - BizTalk Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI * SaaS ... forget the alphabet soup - get the main course with our consulting services!
wWorkflow.net or +1 416-809-1453What you need is pair of these[^] with amplifier to match :)
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Hindi grammar is terrible. I can never remember if a movie or a table is masculine or feminine. Worse still, there are glaring exceptions: 'army' is feminine. You will hardly find any educated Indian who speaks any Indian language without lapsing into English. Although the Malayalis seem to be an exception... (take a bow, Nish) Happy New Year!
Cheers, Vıkram.
Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Shut up to be appreciated.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
You will hardly find any educated Indian who speaks any Indian language without lapsing into English.
Yes, there are a lot of words that don't easily translate. But when you start mixing English with simple stuff like - "pick this one", "no choose the one below it", or start using the Hindi word for "and" in an English sentence - those things make both languages nearly unintelligible. Of course, if you're 'in' on it, you'll get it - and it looks like most Hindi speakers are - but it's just really unfortunate that, of those I know, they do a great job of mangling both languages. When I hear people speaking Cantonese, German, French, etc - they use very few English words and when they speak English they stick to it. I guess I'm just noticing the difference in use.
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Hindi grammar is terrible. I can never remember if a movie or a table is masculine or feminine. Worse still, there are glaring exceptions: 'army' is feminine. You will hardly find any educated Indian who speaks any Indian language without lapsing into English. Although the Malayalis seem to be an exception... (take a bow, Nish) Happy New Year!
Cheers, Vıkram.
Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Shut up to be appreciated.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Although the Malayalis seem to be an exception... (take a bow, Nish)
Actually, some of the younger kids speak what the locals derogatorily call "Manglish" - Malayalam mixed with English words, and many Malayalam words themselves modified to simulate how a non-native Malayalee speaker would pronounce the word. On my last visit to Trivandrum, I was sorta taken aback to find that most of the TV anchors use this so-called "Manglish". I wasn't particularly irritated or anything, I mean it's just a personal preference I guess, but I could see where the young kids pick up the habit from :-) On a slightly related note, some of my Hindi speaking friends usually end a telephone call by saying, "Chalo, I'll speak to you soon". I've never really figured out how that's an apt way to end a call. "Chalo" means "come with me", right? Must be some Hindi-slang originated side effect I guess. :~
Regards, Nish
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What you need is pair of these[^] with amplifier to match :)
Nice - those would help everyone else in the office too!
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Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - BizTalk Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI * SaaS ... forget the alphabet soup - get the main course with our consulting services!
wWorkflow.net or +1 416-809-1453Erik Westermann wrote:
he guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid.
That's not specific to Hindi, it's a common thing (I do not want to use problem or issue because I do not believe it is) with all elasticities. We have chinese developers and whenever they talk between themselves it sounds like "chichichichachacha double chichichacha int". Reason is simple, Chinese language, or any other for that matter simply doesn't have a word that designates double in it, so it's easier to just say insert "double" in the stream of Chinese. As for headphones, I don't think noise cancellation headphones cope very well with speech. You can always try closed circumaural headphones. I use Beyerdynamic DT770 and they are very very good, especially when listening to music.
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Thankfully, I have a job and am happy about that. However, there's always a "but". But I have a problem - the guy in the next cube is learning how to be a developer, specifically, he's getting an understanding of the meaning of True and False. Someone is 'training' him, so they're chatting away. This has been going on for a few weeks now. That's irritating enough...but there's more. The guy speaks 'hin-english' - that's Hindi mixed with English. It drives me insane. I'm learning Hindi and think it is a beautiful language. It's unfortunate that most people I know that speak Hindi speak Hin-english - it makes them sound really, really stupid. It's worse that when they speak English, they horribly mangle it too (mixing tenses, poor or absent sentence structures, etc) - yet the people that do this sort of thing are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately my iPod's volume does not go high enough (even with noise *blocking* headphones) to block out the incessant, irrelevant, chatter. By the way, Happy New Year!
Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net - BizTalk Consulting Services
SOA * ESB * BPI * SaaS ... forget the alphabet soup - get the main course with our consulting services!
wWorkflow.net or +1 416-809-1453Are they speaking Hindi and then using English partially? Or are they speaking English and using Hindi partially? If it's the former, don't blame them. Most Indian languages are used with English mixed in these days. For example, many common words like "table", "chair", "TV", "switch", "bed", "room", "chicken", "bread" etc. are expressed in English. Most folks won't even know their local language equivalents. But if it's the latter, then wow that definitely sucks. My hindi's pretty bad too - so if someone talked to me in English and then mixed in some Hindi, I'll most likely be lost as to what they are saying. Sometimes I get annoyed enough that they expect all brown skinned folks to understand Hindi that I have half a mind to reply back in heavy Malayalam :-)
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link -
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Although the Malayalis seem to be an exception... (take a bow, Nish)
Actually, some of the younger kids speak what the locals derogatorily call "Manglish" - Malayalam mixed with English words, and many Malayalam words themselves modified to simulate how a non-native Malayalee speaker would pronounce the word. On my last visit to Trivandrum, I was sorta taken aback to find that most of the TV anchors use this so-called "Manglish". I wasn't particularly irritated or anything, I mean it's just a personal preference I guess, but I could see where the young kids pick up the habit from :-) On a slightly related note, some of my Hindi speaking friends usually end a telephone call by saying, "Chalo, I'll speak to you soon". I've never really figured out how that's an apt way to end a call. "Chalo" means "come with me", right? Must be some Hindi-slang originated side effect I guess. :~
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
"Chalo, I'll speak to you soon".
In that case. "Chalo" Means "OK...Then". :)
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
"Chalo, I'll speak to you soon".
In that case. "Chalo" Means "OK...Then". :)
Rutvik Dave wrote:
In that case. "Chalo" Means "OK...Then".
Well that's how it seems to be getting used, but it's a strange word to use for "ok" :-)
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link -
Are they speaking Hindi and then using English partially? Or are they speaking English and using Hindi partially? If it's the former, don't blame them. Most Indian languages are used with English mixed in these days. For example, many common words like "table", "chair", "TV", "switch", "bed", "room", "chicken", "bread" etc. are expressed in English. Most folks won't even know their local language equivalents. But if it's the latter, then wow that definitely sucks. My hindi's pretty bad too - so if someone talked to me in English and then mixed in some Hindi, I'll most likely be lost as to what they are saying. Sometimes I get annoyed enough that they expect all brown skinned folks to understand Hindi that I have half a mind to reply back in heavy Malayalam :-)
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
ometimes I get annoyed enough that they expect all brown skinned folks to understand Hindi that I have half a mind to reply back in heavy Malayalam
:) Yeah, the assumption is that Hindi is a national language. I think Hindi is just a broadly-spoken language and that you can't assume that everyone knows it. Based on what you said, I guess it's good news for me since I can just substitute English words and still make sense - so less of a learning curve. It's just sad to see the high degree of substitution. As for speaking English and mixing in Hindi -- that's really common. There are some programs on TV where they announcers and guests are considerate enough to flip from English to Hindi half way into a sentence, but then they sometimes just sprinkle Hindi anywhere they like. I guess it keeps people interested by making them pay attention, or gives them an excuse to stop listening if the topic is not worth the effort.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Although the Malayalis seem to be an exception... (take a bow, Nish)
Actually, some of the younger kids speak what the locals derogatorily call "Manglish" - Malayalam mixed with English words, and many Malayalam words themselves modified to simulate how a non-native Malayalee speaker would pronounce the word. On my last visit to Trivandrum, I was sorta taken aback to find that most of the TV anchors use this so-called "Manglish". I wasn't particularly irritated or anything, I mean it's just a personal preference I guess, but I could see where the young kids pick up the habit from :-) On a slightly related note, some of my Hindi speaking friends usually end a telephone call by saying, "Chalo, I'll speak to you soon". I've never really figured out how that's an apt way to end a call. "Chalo" means "come with me", right? Must be some Hindi-slang originated side effect I guess. :~
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
"Chalo" means "come with me", right?
In its purest form, Chalo is Go. Aao is Come. You must be thinking of Chalo, as in
Mere saath chaloge?which translates intoWill you come with me?FWIW, I've seen native English speakers also sayWill you go with me?but that sounds odd to me. :~ The short answer to your question: No :) Also, as already noted by the other guy, in this context, it means OK.Cheers, Vıkram.
Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Shut up to be appreciated.
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Start wearing a motorbike helmet. If someone asks, tell him that the company dress code doesn’t explicitly forbid that and that you suffer from obsession about the ugly shape of your ears and need to hide them.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
Well, if even that fails, he can always stop wearing the helmet and start hitting those guys with it... Where's that mad laugh icon when you need it?
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What you need is pair of these[^] with amplifier to match :)
Well, I had the same thought. Play something like Korn, or Rob Zombie...Metallica is always good, Marilyn Manson...Start at low volume, increase as needed until said teacher/student couldn't be heard any longer...which at that point becomes an issue as everyone else starts to complain (screw them anyway).