Any Serious/Experienced Photographers Here?
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." -
I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."I sent your post off to a cousin, a professional photographer, who I know was doing product catalogs many years back for a jewelry company. I'll forward any suggestions he may have.
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I sent your post off to a cousin, a professional photographer, who I know was doing product catalogs many years back for a jewelry company. I'll forward any suggestions he may have.
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." -
I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."I wouldn't qualify myself as an experienced photographer, but I have two suggestions: -1. use different background cloths for different car colors, e.g. use a darker background for a lighter car, IMO that would improve the result for the second image you have shown; -2. add a popular object of known size (say a dime) to indicate scale. With your current setup and a couple of cloths I expect you can avoid Photoshop for most of your subjects. If true color consistently is a problem, I would add more light in the first place. :)
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I wouldn't qualify myself as an experienced photographer, but I have two suggestions: -1. use different background cloths for different car colors, e.g. use a darker background for a lighter car, IMO that would improve the result for the second image you have shown; -2. add a popular object of known size (say a dime) to indicate scale. With your current setup and a couple of cloths I expect you can avoid Photoshop for most of your subjects. If true color consistently is a problem, I would add more light in the first place. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
use different background cloths for different car colors, e.g. use a darker background for a lighter car, IMO that would improve the result for the second image you have shown;
Yep, I know I need to do that, but I used the two photos as an example of the inconsistency of results I was getting. I have two more pictures that are also using the same background, and show two more different colors for the background (both of those cars are dark blue).
Luc Pattyn wrote:
add a popular object of known size (say a dime) to indicate scale.
That's not typically done when photographing diecast, especially when the scale is mentioned in the description of the picture.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."It could be the type of light bulbs you're using. Try daylight bulbs - the ones with blue glass. You should be able to get these at any needlecraft store or the larger craft shop (e.g. Micheals[^]). Standard house lighting may seem white but is not - "Although we perceive that most artificial light sources give "white light" in fact they all vary considerably among themselves and from daylight. These differences appear as colour casts on daylight balanced films. For example the light from household incandescent bulbs produces an orange colour cast."[^] Also - "Digital Photography: Although the normal recommendation for daylight film is 5,600 K, digital cameras are designed to work in an artificial lighting of 6500 K. The definition of “daylight” has a broad spectrum and can vary greatly, but the standard tends to be about 6400/6500k. Our range of bulbs all have a colour temperature of 6400k. These bulbs are excellent for both studio work and when using light cubes." [^] No experience with model photography myself but most photo websites I've found recommend daylight temperature bulbs for lighting. The bulbs are not that expensive so that it could be worth a try
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It could be the type of light bulbs you're using. Try daylight bulbs - the ones with blue glass. You should be able to get these at any needlecraft store or the larger craft shop (e.g. Micheals[^]). Standard house lighting may seem white but is not - "Although we perceive that most artificial light sources give "white light" in fact they all vary considerably among themselves and from daylight. These differences appear as colour casts on daylight balanced films. For example the light from household incandescent bulbs produces an orange colour cast."[^] Also - "Digital Photography: Although the normal recommendation for daylight film is 5,600 K, digital cameras are designed to work in an artificial lighting of 6500 K. The definition of “daylight” has a broad spectrum and can vary greatly, but the standard tends to be about 6400/6500k. Our range of bulbs all have a colour temperature of 6400k. These bulbs are excellent for both studio work and when using light cubes." [^] No experience with model photography myself but most photo websites I've found recommend daylight temperature bulbs for lighting. The bulbs are not that expensive so that it could be worth a try
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."The inaccuracy in colors is most likely a white balance issue. One simple way to work around this is to shoot the photos in daylight (without harsh sunlight of course). I am not a pro-photographer but I consider myself a serious amateur :-)
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."Btw both the pics look nice and sharp. Do you have a link for the rest of your car collection?
Regards, Nish
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."Didn't know you were a fellow die-cast model collector! My collection is limited to passenger cars from the 50s, 60s and 70s, mainly Dinky, Corgi, Brooklin and Minichamps (many of which I collected as a kid). I shot my collection using a sucky webcam, so the images are pretty bad and definitely not worth posting. I'm curious to know what suggestions this thread offers. [Edit] I decided to upload some images to http://www.ravib.com/dinky/images/[^] in case you're interested. [/Edit] /ravi
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-diy-10-macro-photo-studio.html[^] I don't do much macro photography. But you don't want incandescent light... no matter what YOU see, they are not white, they are yellow. Florescents generally tint to the blue or green and your alternatives to either shift to orange.... you want an external flash.
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white balance doesn't replace taking the picture in good light. I got the external flash.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."As Nish and Graham mentioned, white balance adjustment might help a lot. For months my Olympus drove me crazy with a persistent blue tint in low light levels; I haven't seen a digi yet that can match real film for low light. I finally rebalanced it manually using a sheet of white craft paper in daylight lighting and it's been fine since. This model has the WB button right where it's convenient to place the thumb while shooting, so I assume I must have accidentally pressed it while shooting on an overcast day. I'd also try a higher f-stop with a longer exposure time. I've had better luck with lower speeds when the level is low; I theorize that it gives the CCDs more time to stabilize, but it works. My camera has a setting for bracketing the exposure; it takes three or five (I forget which) shots in one go with slightly different exposure settings, and I can select the one that looks best from the group. A brighter light source would also help, and a higher color temperature, which I think others have already mentioned. GE makes a line of indoor lights called "Reveal" which have a slightly bluish tint to the glass and seem to produce a more honest daylight output. I haven't used them for photography yet, but I plan to. They cost the same as any other bulb, and are readily available at Ace and Home Depot - anyplace they sell GE bulbs. The won't work in a little desk lamp, but if you have a couple of regular table lamps I'd give them a try. A way to increase the light would be to use reflected, rather than filtered light, as filtering is lossy. Shiny white poster board (Target or Walmart) could be used to make angled reflectors above and to the sides to eliminate shadows, with direct lighting in front to brighten the images. I think the camera will work better with more light. I hope you'll post a link to the gallery when you're done. Nice looking cars! I've never been a collector, as my little brother broke all of mine when we were kids, but I do admire the quality ones. :-D
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As Nish and Graham mentioned, white balance adjustment might help a lot. For months my Olympus drove me crazy with a persistent blue tint in low light levels; I haven't seen a digi yet that can match real film for low light. I finally rebalanced it manually using a sheet of white craft paper in daylight lighting and it's been fine since. This model has the WB button right where it's convenient to place the thumb while shooting, so I assume I must have accidentally pressed it while shooting on an overcast day. I'd also try a higher f-stop with a longer exposure time. I've had better luck with lower speeds when the level is low; I theorize that it gives the CCDs more time to stabilize, but it works. My camera has a setting for bracketing the exposure; it takes three or five (I forget which) shots in one go with slightly different exposure settings, and I can select the one that looks best from the group. A brighter light source would also help, and a higher color temperature, which I think others have already mentioned. GE makes a line of indoor lights called "Reveal" which have a slightly bluish tint to the glass and seem to produce a more honest daylight output. I haven't used them for photography yet, but I plan to. They cost the same as any other bulb, and are readily available at Ace and Home Depot - anyplace they sell GE bulbs. The won't work in a little desk lamp, but if you have a couple of regular table lamps I'd give them a try. A way to increase the light would be to use reflected, rather than filtered light, as filtering is lossy. Shiny white poster board (Target or Walmart) could be used to make angled reflectors above and to the sides to eliminate shadows, with direct lighting in front to brighten the images. I think the camera will work better with more light. I hope you'll post a link to the gallery when you're done. Nice looking cars! I've never been a collector, as my little brother broke all of mine when we were kids, but I do admire the quality ones. :-D
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I've never been a collector, as my little brother broke all of mine when we were kids
Younger siblings! Pfft, I hope you took appropriate action and broke something of his? :rolleyes:
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with,
I have a lot of experience in photography and doing photo retouching work. I can give you a quick-but-effective fix for both the exposure and the white balance problems for the photos your already took. Here are your photos using the corrections I want to show you: Photo 1 - Before (top) and After (bottom)[^] Photo 2 - Before (top) and After (bottom)[^] 1. Open the photo in Photoshop. 2. Type Ctrl-L (Image > Adjustments > Levels). 3. Change the "Channel" dropdown to "Red". 4. In the histogram (input levels), move the left slider (black) and right slider (white) until they just touch the middle bulk portion of the curve (Here[^] is what the red channel looks like when I'm done). 5. Repeat step 4 with both the "Blue Channel" and the "Green Channel". I think your lighting setup is fine the way it is. If you were doing this professionally or doing a huge quantity of photos, we could get into better lighting setups and properly setting your white balance with an 18% grey card. But, without getting into the effort or expense, you can get pretty good results with a bit of post processing. 'Just my opinion. Enjoy, Robert C. Cartaino
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I have an extensive collection of diecast cars ranging in scale from 1/144 all the way up to 1/18. I want to take some decent photos of them, regardless of the scale of the car. I've taken some photos ( a year or more ago) using a Canon PowerShot S3 IS[^] on a tripod, with the cars positioned in a home-made light box, but I struggled to get consistent results. Here's a link to the photos: FR500C #55[^] FR500C #05[^] The background used for both of those photos was the same, but I had to Photoshop the images to bring the correct color on the car, which resulted in changing the background color as well. I'm sure this is partially caused by my lack of familiarity with Photoshop, but I'm equally sure that a large part of the problem is my camera settings and lighting techniques. I'm doing this on as small of a budget as I can get away with, so I'm not inclined to spend big bucks on a studio-quality lighting system, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new camera (I think my PowerShot is more than enough camera for the task at hand). For lighting, I'm currently using a pair of twisty-neck desk lamps with the purest white light bulbs I can find at Home Depot, and diffusing/reflecting the light with a section of white bed sheet draped over the light box. What I'm looking for is suggested settings (described in a general way of course, and not really specific to the camera I'm using (unless, of course, the description can be applied to it) and techniques for getting the most (and most consistent) results regardless of the size or color of the object being photographed.
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels."You probably need to create a color correction profile for your camera. You can buy some very expensive systems or try this low end ~$25USD system that works fine for most uses. http://www.qpcard.se/BizPart.aspx?tabId=28[^] As noted by others use the highest color temp bulb's you can get - but also look at the color spectrum of the bulb. You want a bulb that puts out as close to a solar spectrum (called a blackbody distribution) as possible. Tungsten-halogen bulbs generally give the best spectrum matching but run very, very hot. Florescent bulbs may have a high color temp, but may have a low output in certain color bands. Applying a color correction will fix that providing the missing colors are not totally missing. On the other hand fluorescents have lots of other advantages - especially the fact that they run cool and you don't have to worry about setting you bed sheet on fire! Small light tents that fold up for storage run $50 or so, but I have found a bed sheet light tent works great. Shut off any camera color/white balance corrections so you get consistent colors. Once you have a color profile, use exactly the same setup used for establishing the color profile, i.e. same lights and locations, same camera settings, etc. Stick with your white background. Using a color background is a poor man’s way of doing color correction, but it takes a lot of experimentation to get it close.
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Btw both the pics look nice and sharp. Do you have a link for the rest of your car collection?
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
As Nish and Graham mentioned, white balance adjustment might help a lot. For months my Olympus drove me crazy with a persistent blue tint in low light levels; I haven't seen a digi yet that can match real film for low light. I finally rebalanced it manually using a sheet of white craft paper in daylight lighting and it's been fine since. This model has the WB button right where it's convenient to place the thumb while shooting, so I assume I must have accidentally pressed it while shooting on an overcast day. I'd also try a higher f-stop with a longer exposure time. I've had better luck with lower speeds when the level is low; I theorize that it gives the CCDs more time to stabilize, but it works. My camera has a setting for bracketing the exposure; it takes three or five (I forget which) shots in one go with slightly different exposure settings, and I can select the one that looks best from the group. A brighter light source would also help, and a higher color temperature, which I think others have already mentioned. GE makes a line of indoor lights called "Reveal" which have a slightly bluish tint to the glass and seem to produce a more honest daylight output. I haven't used them for photography yet, but I plan to. They cost the same as any other bulb, and are readily available at Ace and Home Depot - anyplace they sell GE bulbs. The won't work in a little desk lamp, but if you have a couple of regular table lamps I'd give them a try. A way to increase the light would be to use reflected, rather than filtered light, as filtering is lossy. Shiny white poster board (Target or Walmart) could be used to make angled reflectors above and to the sides to eliminate shadows, with direct lighting in front to brighten the images. I think the camera will work better with more light. I hope you'll post a link to the gallery when you're done. Nice looking cars! I've never been a collector, as my little brother broke all of mine when we were kids, but I do admire the quality ones. :-D
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GE makes a line of indoor lights called "Reveal" which have a slightly bluish tint to the glass and seem to produce a more honest daylight output.
That's what I'm using. And, I'm reflecting the light instead of diffusing it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Many thanks.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001He asked if this is what you wanted your collection to look like. Cars[^] If so I can find out how he did it. Apparently you have what it takes in the photos you took.
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