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    Chris Maunder
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    After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Dario Solera
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

      I recently have the same feeling. It's just... impossible.

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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      • C Chris Maunder

        After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        J4amieC
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        So, you like it then? ;)

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        • C Chris Maunder

          After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Paul Watson
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          How dominant is IE usage on CP? And how many CP users still use IE6? IE7 is a lot better (though still a bit "quirky", though sadly not in the "cute goth chick" quirky way.)

          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Hans Dietrich
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            those engaged in moral turptitude

            Is this a new forum you'll be creating? Or are you just teasing us?

            Best wishes, Hans


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            • C Chris Maunder

              After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              those engaged in moral turptitude.

              So that would be me then, but I prefer to use the term "wallowing in the mire of moral turptitude." It's much more evocative.

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              • P Paul Watson

                How dominant is IE usage on CP? And how many CP users still use IE6? IE7 is a lot better (though still a bit "quirky", though sadly not in the "cute goth chick" quirky way.)

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Oo oo! I know suggest a survey: Is IE: - Crap - Really crap - So crap, other crap things call it Mr Crappy Crap-Crap - I don't use IE


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                • C Chris Maunder

                  After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  phannon86
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                  I encountered this for the first time last week, my first proper experience of web development (as a hobby, I'm gladly doing winforms at work). It amazed me how Microsoft's own controls don't even display properly (or how you'd expect at least). FF and Opera gave me what I wanted, Safari and Chrome needed some kind of back-end workaround but they interpreted the generated HTML properly.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Rage
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                    Curious. Every time I complained about IE here, I got seriously voted down. So far, you have only been up-voted. Seems like IE's being good or not also depends on who says it. :) Anyway, I am forced to work with IE6 and the rendering engine is indeed one solid piece of crap.

                    I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones www.immo-brasseurs.com

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      Simon Capewell
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                      I feel your pain. We came up with a postback free multi layered modal popup interface using the Ajax Control Toolkit. Worked great in Firefox. IE utterly utterly ballsed it up with elements incorrectly Z ordered, mouse clicks falling through to the wrong elements. Moral. Build your concept layout in Firefox, but be sure to test it properly in IE before committing any time to it. And still the end users say "why would I want to use anything other than IE". How about using a browser that doesn't need to spend 3 seconds "connecting" to about:blank. WTF is there to connect to?

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                        How dominant is IE usage on CP? And how many CP users still use IE6? IE7 is a lot better (though still a bit "quirky", though sadly not in the "cute goth chick" quirky way.)

                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        IE6 is about 17%. Enough to be frustrating.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          those engaged in moral turptitude

                          Is this a new forum you'll be creating? Or are you just teasing us?

                          Best wishes, Hans


                          [CodeProject Forum Guidelines] [How To Ask A Question] [My Articles]

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          You're a bad man Hans. A bad man.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Curious. Every time I complained about IE here, I got seriously voted down. So far, you have only been up-voted. Seems like IE's being good or not also depends on who says it. :) Anyway, I am forced to work with IE6 and the rendering engine is indeed one solid piece of crap.

                            I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones www.immo-brasseurs.com

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            It's because I used 'moral turptidude'.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              Curious. Every time I complained about IE here, I got seriously voted down. So far, you have only been up-voted. Seems like IE's being good or not also depends on who says it. :) Anyway, I am forced to work with IE6 and the rendering engine is indeed one solid piece of crap.

                              I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones www.immo-brasseurs.com

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                              Hans Dietrich
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                              Timing is everything. Or in this case, timezone is everything. In a few hours, the IE is god's gift to HTML crowd will log on, and Chris will be severely reprimanded and forced to set his screen background to poofy pink. :)

                              Best wishes, Hans


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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                IE6 is about 17%. Enough to be frustrating.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                benjymous
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                                if( IE6 ) { redirect "/Articles/FFSGetFirefox.aspx"; }

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                                  It's because I used 'moral turptidude'.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  And we're glad you did. :-D Despite your peculiar spelling here... ;P

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    After what feels like a complete waste of a day I have graduated to a new level of being offended at IE's rendering engine. I will defend it no more. It's fit only for street urchins, persons of low repute and those engaged in moral turptitude.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                    Two years ago I had an opportunity to proof beyond a reasonable doubt that all flavors of IE suck at complex DOM operations; this poor guys code had to be completely trashed because of it. Could you describe your particular problem so we can all share in the hatred? (or is it posted in the ASP.NET forum?) Moral Turpitude, what are in Georgia now?

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                                      IE6 is about 17%. Enough to be frustrating.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      That is high for a tech website. Wonder if it is from corporate machines not allowed to upgrade or IE users who don't like the IE7 UI.

                                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                        You're a bad man Hans. A bad man.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        You could rename the Soapbox to that for awhile, see how people react.

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          I feel your pain. We came up with a postback free multi layered modal popup interface using the Ajax Control Toolkit. Worked great in Firefox. IE utterly utterly ballsed it up with elements incorrectly Z ordered, mouse clicks falling through to the wrong elements. Moral. Build your concept layout in Firefox, but be sure to test it properly in IE before committing any time to it. And still the end users say "why would I want to use anything other than IE". How about using a browser that doesn't need to spend 3 seconds "connecting" to about:blank. WTF is there to connect to?

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                                          Paul Watson
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                                          Simon Capewell wrote:

                                          about:blank. WTF is there to connect to?

                                          http://microsoft.com/analytics/user.aspx?visited=about%3Ablank&ip=192.168.1.1

                                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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