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    Brady Kelly
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    Why TF can't VS 2008, 2008 already, not rename ASP.NET pages without much cursing and debugging on my part. One day it doesn't rename the code-behind base class, then today it doesn't update the 'inherits' page attribute, after I go and *** manually rename the base class. :mad: I'm trying to learn new techniques here, but the old, bitchy, MS mother in law keeps getting in the way.

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      Why TF can't VS 2008, 2008 already, not rename ASP.NET pages without much cursing and debugging on my part. One day it doesn't rename the code-behind base class, then today it doesn't update the 'inherits' page attribute, after I go and *** manually rename the base class. :mad: I'm trying to learn new techniques here, but the old, bitchy, MS mother in law keeps getting in the way.

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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      Add source control to the mix and you have real fun. Declarative programming will kill us all.

      Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
      If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
      Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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        Add source control to the mix and you have real fun. Declarative programming will kill us all.

        Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
        If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
        Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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        Henry Minute
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        Declarative programming will kill us all

        Particularly when it is used for Air-Traffic Control. :)

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

          Declarative programming will kill us all

          Particularly when it is used for Air-Traffic Control. :)

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          Steve Mayfield
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          that's why I'm sticking with: MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52 and MS Windows / Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0

          Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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            Why TF can't VS 2008, 2008 already, not rename ASP.NET pages without much cursing and debugging on my part. One day it doesn't rename the code-behind base class, then today it doesn't update the 'inherits' page attribute, after I go and *** manually rename the base class. :mad: I'm trying to learn new techniques here, but the old, bitchy, MS mother in law keeps getting in the way.

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            leppie
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            Besides WWF being almost unusable in the VS2008 designer, why didnt the implement object renaming like they have in all the other designers? You change one name, and the whole bloody thing forgets everything about it... :mad: Question: Has anyone actually used WWF in successfully (well if you can answer I guess you are still alive, and that's pretty good IMO) in a medium size project?

            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
            IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
            ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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              Besides WWF being almost unusable in the VS2008 designer, why didnt the implement object renaming like they have in all the other designers? You change one name, and the whole bloody thing forgets everything about it... :mad: Question: Has anyone actually used WWF in successfully (well if you can answer I guess you are still alive, and that's pretty good IMO) in a medium size project?

              xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
              IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
              ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              I still haven't reached the W*Fs... Sometimes, I feel so left out :~

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                that's why I'm sticking with: MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52 and MS Windows / Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0

                Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                ToddHileHoffer
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                Steve Mayfield wrote:

                that's why I'm sticking with: MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52 and MS Windows / Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0

                I hope you are kidding.

                I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                  Besides WWF being almost unusable in the VS2008 designer, why didnt the implement object renaming like they have in all the other designers? You change one name, and the whole bloody thing forgets everything about it... :mad: Question: Has anyone actually used WWF in successfully (well if you can answer I guess you are still alive, and that's pretty good IMO) in a medium size project?

                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                  IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                  ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                  ToddHileHoffer
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                  leppie wrote:

                  Question: Has anyone actually used WWF in successfully (well if you can answer I guess you are still alive, and that's pretty good IMO) in a medium size project?

                  I am about to implement a K2 Blackpearl project which is built on top of WWF. But no I haven't used wwf.

                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    leppie wrote:

                    Question: Has anyone actually used WWF in successfully (well if you can answer I guess you are still alive, and that's pretty good IMO) in a medium size project?

                    I am about to implement a K2 Blackpearl project which is built on top of WWF. But no I haven't used wwf.

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    leppie
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                    ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                    But no I haven't used wwf.

                    As long as you dont have to use that designer, you will be ok, else you have my sympathies. We have only 1 workflow project, with 8 statemachine workflows with an average of 8 or so states. When I switch from the designer (without even changing anything) to another source file, and I try to type, VS freezes up for over 3 minutes (yes timed). A workflow takes anything from 1 to 3 minutes to open. Every time you save, it freezes for 2-3 minutes. Sometimes you get a COM error, and cant save any unsaved changes, so you have to save frequently. Trying to modify the workflow by XML does help a bit, but still a lot of freezes. I cant believe they released such a useless piece of crap*... :sigh: * Only the VS designer/project/intergration, the rest of WWF runs great and fast, and works like advertised :)

                    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                    IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                    ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      Why TF can't VS 2008, 2008 already, not rename ASP.NET pages without much cursing and debugging on my part. One day it doesn't rename the code-behind base class, then today it doesn't update the 'inherits' page attribute, after I go and *** manually rename the base class. :mad: I'm trying to learn new techniques here, but the old, bitchy, MS mother in law keeps getting in the way.

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                      peterchen
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                      Brady Kelly wrote:

                      without much cursing and debugging on my part.

                      It could, if you'd just shut up and suffer through it. :cool:

                      Burning Chrome ^ | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                        without much cursing and debugging on my part.

                        It could, if you'd just shut up and suffer through it. :cool:

                        Burning Chrome ^ | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        Spoken like a true unix user :)

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                          that's why I'm sticking with: MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52 and MS Windows / Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0

                          Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                          Henry Minute
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                          Steve Mayfield wrote:

                          MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52

                          I was having a clear out a couple of weeks ago, I never actually tossed anything and it took ages, and I came across the floppies for those two and MASM can't remember version number off hand but it was same era.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                            Spoken like a true unix user :)

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                            peterchen
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                            Ouch, Jim, that was _really_ low. :suss:

                            Burning Chrome ^ | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                              Ouch, Jim, that was _really_ low. :suss:

                              Burning Chrome ^ | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                              Jim Crafton
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                              Please don't cry, it will reduce your man points. But trust me, I feel your pain. I'm a secret unix user too.

                              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                that's why I'm sticking with: MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52 and MS Windows / Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0

                                Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                Shaun Wilde
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                                Steve Mayfield wrote:

                                MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52 and MS Windows / Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0

                                Ahhh - those were the days and strangely I think my apps ran faster then as well.

                                I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. - pTerry
                                BizSquawk

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                                  ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                  But no I haven't used wwf.

                                  As long as you dont have to use that designer, you will be ok, else you have my sympathies. We have only 1 workflow project, with 8 statemachine workflows with an average of 8 or so states. When I switch from the designer (without even changing anything) to another source file, and I try to type, VS freezes up for over 3 minutes (yes timed). A workflow takes anything from 1 to 3 minutes to open. Every time you save, it freezes for 2-3 minutes. Sometimes you get a COM error, and cant save any unsaved changes, so you have to save frequently. Trying to modify the workflow by XML does help a bit, but still a lot of freezes. I cant believe they released such a useless piece of crap*... :sigh: * Only the VS designer/project/intergration, the rest of WWF runs great and fast, and works like advertised :)

                                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                  IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                                  ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                                  Shaun Wilde
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                                  leppie wrote:

                                  A workflow takes anything from 1 to 3 minutes to open.

                                  And I thought my BizTalk orchestrations were awful to open.

                                  I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. - pTerry
                                  BizSquawk

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                                    Please don't cry, it will reduce your man points. But trust me, I feel your pain. I'm a secret unix user too.

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                    peterchen
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                                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                                    I'm a secret unix user too.

                                    Well, I am not ;P

                                    Burning Chrome ^ | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                                      Steve Mayfield wrote:

                                      MS DOS 6.22 / MS Visual C++ V1.52

                                      I was having a clear out a couple of weeks ago, I never actually tossed anything and it took ages, and I came across the floppies for those two and MASM can't remember version number off hand but it was same era.

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      Steve Mayfield
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                                      MASM is still available V8.0 [^] is a free download and only requires that Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition be installed.

                                      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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