Job that don't require experience in a particular technology?
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Hello, I'm facing a strange problem that I hadn't thought about before. I have been working professionally since September 2005, yet I don't have a particularly long experience in a certain technology. I have worked with Java EE for about a year, Business Intelligence for 1.5 years, Data Warehousing for another year, and MATLAB & C#/.NET for yet another year. I have worked in both telecommunication and stock market sectors. I used to think that my exposure to multiple technologies and sectors would enhance my chances for finding jobs later, but apparently it's the other way around! I used to think that good companies would look for talent, hard work and high quality. But I currently find it difficult to find a job, as most job requirements are stated in years of experience. While I don't have those many years of experience in any particular technology, I've made very good things with those that I used, and I'm willing to learn new tools and technologies as required. So my question is, how can I find development jobs where overall years of experience matter more than experience in a particular technology? P.S: I'm mainly targeting the European market, preferably UK or Ireland. I appreciate your experience and suggestions. Thank you.
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Hello, I'm facing a strange problem that I hadn't thought about before. I have been working professionally since September 2005, yet I don't have a particularly long experience in a certain technology. I have worked with Java EE for about a year, Business Intelligence for 1.5 years, Data Warehousing for another year, and MATLAB & C#/.NET for yet another year. I have worked in both telecommunication and stock market sectors. I used to think that my exposure to multiple technologies and sectors would enhance my chances for finding jobs later, but apparently it's the other way around! I used to think that good companies would look for talent, hard work and high quality. But I currently find it difficult to find a job, as most job requirements are stated in years of experience. While I don't have those many years of experience in any particular technology, I've made very good things with those that I used, and I'm willing to learn new tools and technologies as required. So my question is, how can I find development jobs where overall years of experience matter more than experience in a particular technology? P.S: I'm mainly targeting the European market, preferably UK or Ireland. I appreciate your experience and suggestions. Thank you.
You are searching the wrong way is the problem. A well rounded skill set is generally more valuable to a smaller company. There they need people with a wider range of skills because they cannot hire multiple people to do a little work each. A large company wants people to specialize in an area to get the most bang for their buck. If you want to do a little of everything, you have to go after smaller companies who do not have the resources to advertise in the big employment pools. You have to start searching in the 'one off' markets (newspapers, bulletin boards and word of mouth are best). Secondly, you are looking for work at a time when no one is really hiring. Its not that they don't want your skills. Its that they don't really want anyone. You have to hold your breath for the next year, try not to starve and freeze to death without a home and perhaps next year there will be jobs. Sounds awful, but more true than most want to believe. If you have a job, be very very thankful, even if it is a suck a$$ed job. Its a job, and there are going to be a lot of people (over the next year) who wish they had your job so they can feed and house their family.
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Hello, I'm facing a strange problem that I hadn't thought about before. I have been working professionally since September 2005, yet I don't have a particularly long experience in a certain technology. I have worked with Java EE for about a year, Business Intelligence for 1.5 years, Data Warehousing for another year, and MATLAB & C#/.NET for yet another year. I have worked in both telecommunication and stock market sectors. I used to think that my exposure to multiple technologies and sectors would enhance my chances for finding jobs later, but apparently it's the other way around! I used to think that good companies would look for talent, hard work and high quality. But I currently find it difficult to find a job, as most job requirements are stated in years of experience. While I don't have those many years of experience in any particular technology, I've made very good things with those that I used, and I'm willing to learn new tools and technologies as required. So my question is, how can I find development jobs where overall years of experience matter more than experience in a particular technology? P.S: I'm mainly targeting the European market, preferably UK or Ireland. I appreciate your experience and suggestions. Thank you.
Job: Sweeping standing water off of sidewalks Requirements: Known how to use a push-broom Oh wait - you said development jobs...
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You are searching the wrong way is the problem. A well rounded skill set is generally more valuable to a smaller company. There they need people with a wider range of skills because they cannot hire multiple people to do a little work each. A large company wants people to specialize in an area to get the most bang for their buck. If you want to do a little of everything, you have to go after smaller companies who do not have the resources to advertise in the big employment pools. You have to start searching in the 'one off' markets (newspapers, bulletin boards and word of mouth are best). Secondly, you are looking for work at a time when no one is really hiring. Its not that they don't want your skills. Its that they don't really want anyone. You have to hold your breath for the next year, try not to starve and freeze to death without a home and perhaps next year there will be jobs. Sounds awful, but more true than most want to believe. If you have a job, be very very thankful, even if it is a suck a$$ed job. Its a job, and there are going to be a lot of people (over the next year) who wish they had your job so they can feed and house their family.
I'll second that. All three points. Furthermore, my last employer is now more interested in hiring contractors for short periods, rather than having full-time developers.
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Hello, I'm facing a strange problem that I hadn't thought about before. I have been working professionally since September 2005, yet I don't have a particularly long experience in a certain technology. I have worked with Java EE for about a year, Business Intelligence for 1.5 years, Data Warehousing for another year, and MATLAB & C#/.NET for yet another year. I have worked in both telecommunication and stock market sectors. I used to think that my exposure to multiple technologies and sectors would enhance my chances for finding jobs later, but apparently it's the other way around! I used to think that good companies would look for talent, hard work and high quality. But I currently find it difficult to find a job, as most job requirements are stated in years of experience. While I don't have those many years of experience in any particular technology, I've made very good things with those that I used, and I'm willing to learn new tools and technologies as required. So my question is, how can I find development jobs where overall years of experience matter more than experience in a particular technology? P.S: I'm mainly targeting the European market, preferably UK or Ireland. I appreciate your experience and suggestions. Thank you.
Jobs requiring years of skill in a technology are kind of misleading. If you worked at one company for 5 years and had 2 3 month projects at that company using Java, how much Java experience do you have? HR would say 5 years of Java experience, a Team Lead would say a year. It is kind of subjective. Of course, HR would probably submit barrista's for Java jobs too.
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You are searching the wrong way is the problem. A well rounded skill set is generally more valuable to a smaller company. There they need people with a wider range of skills because they cannot hire multiple people to do a little work each. A large company wants people to specialize in an area to get the most bang for their buck. If you want to do a little of everything, you have to go after smaller companies who do not have the resources to advertise in the big employment pools. You have to start searching in the 'one off' markets (newspapers, bulletin boards and word of mouth are best). Secondly, you are looking for work at a time when no one is really hiring. Its not that they don't want your skills. Its that they don't really want anyone. You have to hold your breath for the next year, try not to starve and freeze to death without a home and perhaps next year there will be jobs. Sounds awful, but more true than most want to believe. If you have a job, be very very thankful, even if it is a suck a$$ed job. Its a job, and there are going to be a lot of people (over the next year) who wish they had your job so they can feed and house their family.
Brian W King wrote:
You have to start searching in the 'one off' markets (newspapers, bulletin boards and word of mouth are best).
I think you're right here, learned this from experience? Very good analysis oh wise one!
Wout
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Brian W King wrote:
You have to start searching in the 'one off' markets (newspapers, bulletin boards and word of mouth are best).
I think you're right here, learned this from experience? Very good analysis oh wise one!
Wout
Better than 'old fart' I guess ;) Been doing this now for 25 years. Both direct and contractor style. Yea since the olden days in computing. Started on Z80's (if anyone even knows what they are anymore). I certainly do fall in the 'all over the map' skill set. I now specifically search for jobs that allow me that flexibility. I can't stand to be forced to focus on a 'sliver' of a project. :cool:
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Better than 'old fart' I guess ;) Been doing this now for 25 years. Both direct and contractor style. Yea since the olden days in computing. Started on Z80's (if anyone even knows what they are anymore). I certainly do fall in the 'all over the map' skill set. I now specifically search for jobs that allow me that flexibility. I can't stand to be forced to focus on a 'sliver' of a project. :cool:
Yeah, I know Z80 (getting to the old fart stage I guess). I just got a parttime contract job for a small company, indeed through some sort of online bulletin. Way easier to do business with than the larger intermediary web sites (our local 'Monster' clones) where some 'pimp' is shoveling your resume around. So this was a learning moment for me, when you said it it seemed all very logical. I actually just stumbled over something accidentally, but next time I'll adjust my contract job searching strategy :cool:.
Wout
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You are searching the wrong way is the problem. A well rounded skill set is generally more valuable to a smaller company. There they need people with a wider range of skills because they cannot hire multiple people to do a little work each. A large company wants people to specialize in an area to get the most bang for their buck. If you want to do a little of everything, you have to go after smaller companies who do not have the resources to advertise in the big employment pools. You have to start searching in the 'one off' markets (newspapers, bulletin boards and word of mouth are best). Secondly, you are looking for work at a time when no one is really hiring. Its not that they don't want your skills. Its that they don't really want anyone. You have to hold your breath for the next year, try not to starve and freeze to death without a home and perhaps next year there will be jobs. Sounds awful, but more true than most want to believe. If you have a job, be very very thankful, even if it is a suck a$$ed job. Its a job, and there are going to be a lot of people (over the next year) who wish they had your job so they can feed and house their family.
It also depends on how big the project is. I work for a medium sized (1400+ people) company; but the contracts I've worked on have been have been fairly small and jack of all trades are cheaper because of the amount of time that would be spent spinning up more specialists on the required domain knowledge.
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