2nd Amendment rights under attack in the House

Oakman

BoneSoft wrote:

this massive VB web project didn't want to convert to C#.

Why in God's name, would they? :confused: Anybody who calls himherself a .NET programmer and can't work in both languages is kidding himself. I note that on your website, you don't say that you won't sell your work to people using VB. . . Presumably that's because it doesn't make any difference which language they are using - any difference at all.

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Doctor Nick

Ooooo that's good. Man, I'm going to start trying to make a living of figure out loopholes to screw people out of their rights. It might even land me in government someday :laugh: Seriously that's messed up. Surprised nobody has brought this up and held their reps accountable to change the law.

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Oakman

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." ~ U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein; Associated Press, November 18, 1993 "And, I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me." ~ U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein; C-Span April 27, 1995

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Dan Neely

your average masshole is quite happy with having bureaucratically disarmed his neighbors and would soil his lace panties if handed a gun so it doesn't bother him personally. X|

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Doctor Nick

I visit the peoples republic once in awhile. My aunt lives out there so I'm aware. It's quite interesting talking with her about politics and such because coming from Iowa she grew up more or less conservative and to live in the midst of so many liberals but still keep her views is interesting. Much like me she's more moderate and flexible but it's still interesting to watch what goes on out there. Pure entertainment if you don't live there :laugh:

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Doctor Nick

Wow, Feinstein the cold blooded killer. Who would have thought? :laugh:

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Christian Graus

Wow - this is just insane. They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

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Doctor Nick

I think his issue is with the last point.

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Oakman

Christian Graus wrote:

They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

A friend of mine -- an avowed socialist and Castro sympathiser, for whatever that might be worth once pointed out that whatever the government wants to control, it claims it is doing it to protect the children. One of the most respected liberal Supreme Court judges we have ever had said, "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding" And for the record, I've never killed anybody the government didn't ask me to. I have a weapon to make sure that it's difficult for any member of MS13 to kill me.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

BoneSoft

led mike wrote:

Child Molesters (anyone that preys on children), Rapists or any violence against women, Terrorists are all the scum of the earth for me.

Agreed. The worst of evil humans. Might add con men who soak old people for all their worth too. People who prey on others are evil, those who do it to the most vunerable are the most dispicable.

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Christian Graus

Oakman wrote:

whatever the government wants to control, it claims it is doing it to protect the children.

I have no doubt. But, are you denying that kids getting access to guns is a problem in the US, one that leads to deaths of said children ?

Oakman wrote:

The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding"

Yes, but the 'liberty' to own guns is bloody stupid, and the defences and reasons given for it, insane.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

Christian Graus

Yeah, I bet when they wrote that, they were giggling over what the gun nuts will presume those extra clauses to be. I wonder if they did it so they had something they were happy to remove, if they have to negotiate to get this piece of common sense to become law.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

BoneSoft

Working with VB.Net and enjoying it are two vastly different things. However, to answer your question of why would they, I'm not completely sure what my boss' motives were other than he wanted to work with C# because he hadn't learned it. One of many reasons I'm happy to now be employed elsewhere. :-D

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Doctor Nick

Oakman wrote:

Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding

Obviously none of the current congress remember this quote. Or rather maybe the people who voted these fools in don't konw about it based on how things are going at the moment...

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Dan Neely

Yeah, TaXachusetts and Shicago don't have enough clout to mess up the rest of the US. Commiefornicate OTOH... X|

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Dan Neely

Do you have citations for those?

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Oakman

Christian Graus wrote:

But, are you denying that kids getting access to guns is a problem in the US, one that leads to deaths of said children

Sure it's a problem. So is kids driving. Guess which is responsible for more deaths? Almost twice as many kids in the U.S. are killed by a weapon that is not a firearm as those that are killed by a gun or rifle. (I picked up that statistic from a pro-guncontrol website, by the way.) That's still way too many, but guess what? When we look at gun-deaths (of any kind) we see two facts: 1) 80% of all of them occur on the east or west coast or our border with Mexico; put a map that shows where hispanic immigrants congregate over a map that shows gun deaths and they coincide almost perfectly. States like South Dakota or Wyoming have extremely low deaths by gunfire rates comparable to those in any other industrialized country. Problem is that reporting that guns kill a lot of people is politically correct. Reporting that hispanics are on the giving and receiving end of most of those deaths is racist.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Christian Graus

Oakman wrote:

So is kids driving. Guess which is responsible for more deaths?

I'm sorry, but this is so stupid. It's beneath you to say something this dumb.

Oakman wrote:

put a map that shows where hispanic immigrants congregate over a map that shows gun deaths and they coincide almost perfectly

Are the actual deaths of hispanic kids, or is this co-incidence or related in some other way ?

Oakman wrote:

Reporting that hispanics are on the giving and receiving end of most of those deaths is racist.

Is it true tho ?

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

Oakman

Just google on 'if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me Feinstein' and or 'Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe Feinstein' You'd probably also get some hits under liberal hypocrite.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

BoneSoft

Christian Graus wrote:

But, are you denying that kids getting access to guns is a problem in the US, one that leads to deaths of said children ?

I'll deny it. 10 per year are 10 too many, but there are hundreds of things that are far more deadly to kids than guns. Once swimming pools, stairs, plastic bags, fat parents, McDonalds and cars are outlawed, then we can look at guns.

Christian Graus wrote:

Yes, but the 'liberty' to own guns is bloody stupid, and the defences and reasons given for it, insane.

Apparently in the eye of the beholder. [edit] Sorry, 10 per 100,000 was the statistic I'd seen some time ago. [/edit] [really edit] Causes of death in kids under 15 for 2005 according to the CDC[^]

Cars 2,633 of 65 million (4.05%)
Suffocation 991 of 65 million (1.52%)
Drowning 854 of 65 million (1.31%)
Pedestrian 629 of 65 million (0.97%)
Poisoning 127 of 65 million (0.20%)
Guns 88 of 65 million (0.14%)

Cars, plastic bags and swimming pools are far larger threats. [/really edit]

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modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 3:54 PM