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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    WTF? I try to reply to your messages but they disappear faster than I can finish typing! :laugh:

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    Oakman
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    73Zeppelin wrote:

    WTF? I try to reply to your messages but they disappear faster than I can finish typing!

    It's part of his master plan. Or masturbation - I'm not quite sure which.

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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    • 7 73Zeppelin

      WTF? I try to reply to your messages but they disappear faster than I can finish typing! :laugh:

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      Ilion
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      Amusing, isn't it? But don't worry ... The Revolution :laugh: will come; the thugs of "the community" will not have free-reign here forever.

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        73Zeppelin wrote:

        WTF? I try to reply to your messages but they disappear faster than I can finish typing!

        It's part of his master plan. Or masturbation - I'm not quite sure which.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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        Dalek Dave
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        Oakman wrote:

        It's part of his master plan. Or masturbation - I'm not quite sure which.

        We all know which it is! :)

        ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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        • O Oakman

          wolfbinary wrote:

          I thought more people believed in evolution then this in the US.

          I don't "believe" in evolution. I accept it as the best theory available to explain the origin of species. I have no problem with the person who tells me that evolution is part of God's plan, either. I am also aware, as apparently folks who refer to the Theory of Evolution as 'Darwinism' are not that the theory of evolution has been modified many times and in many ways as we have learned more about biological history, world history and genetics to the point where Darwin himself might not recognize what most modern evolutionary biologistwould point to when asked what evolution was. Frankly, I suspect that most people who "believe" in evolution have no idea what they are talking about - anymore than those who "disbelieve."

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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          wolfbinary
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          Oakman wrote:

          Frankly, I suspect that most people who "believe" in evolution have no idea what they are talking about - anymore than those who "disbelieve."

          By "believe" I was saying

          Oakman wrote:

          I accept it as the best theory available to explain the origin of species.

          . What have you heard people say is evolution then? I thought the meaning of it was well understood by anyone who took a biology class.:confused: What have people said to you as to why they don't agree with it?

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          • I Ilion

            Oakman wrote:

            I don't "believe" in evolution. [blah, dishonest blah]

            What a liar you are.

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            BoneSoft
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            Do you actually believe that your contributions to these discussion are profound? :rolleyes: :sigh:


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            • W wolfbinary

              This came out a few days ago and I don't know if this is a repost or not, so I apologize if it is. click[^] I thought more people believed in evolution then this in the US.

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              BoneSoft
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              It's the 39% who have no opinion that concern me the most. We've become a culture that's too lazy to bother with thinking. :sigh: At least those who don't believe have formed an opinion based on something, though I do find that slightly disturbing. Happily dismissing hundreds of years of science just because of your preachers interpretation of scripture is a little irrespsonsible.


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              • W wolfbinary

                Oakman wrote:

                Frankly, I suspect that most people who "believe" in evolution have no idea what they are talking about - anymore than those who "disbelieve."

                By "believe" I was saying

                Oakman wrote:

                I accept it as the best theory available to explain the origin of species.

                . What have you heard people say is evolution then? I thought the meaning of it was well understood by anyone who took a biology class.:confused: What have people said to you as to why they don't agree with it?

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                Ilion
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                wolfbinary wrote:

                What have you heard people say is evolution then?

                The word 'evolution' means "development [of what is already there] over time" (*) and it implies teleology ... which is why St. Chuckie avoided the word. The word was first used in embryology to name the theory that embryos grow from preformed homunculi (in the case of humans) enclosed in the egg or sperm cells; that is, by this old theory, all possible future organisms already exist in miniature within their ancestors. But, hey, you don't even know yourself what you mean by the word; you're using it with multiple meanins simultaneously. (*) Contra the "Darwinsts," the word does *not* mean "change over time."

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                  It's the 39% who have no opinion that concern me the most. We've become a culture that's too lazy to bother with thinking. :sigh: At least those who don't believe have formed an opinion based on something, though I do find that slightly disturbing. Happily dismissing hundreds of years of science just because of your preachers interpretation of scripture is a little irrespsonsible.


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                  Ilion
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                  BoneSoft wrote:

                  Happily dismissing hundreds of years of science just because of your preachers interpretation of scripture is a little irrespsonsible.

                  What a fool you are. And dishonest, too. For, after all, "science" is not truth. Therefore, to dismiss *any* science, even if the dismissal is done cavalierly, is of no moral importance.

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                    BoneSoft wrote:

                    Happily dismissing hundreds of years of science just because of your preachers interpretation of scripture is a little irrespsonsible.

                    What a fool you are. And dishonest, too. For, after all, "science" is not truth. Therefore, to dismiss *any* science, even if the dismissal is done cavalierly, is of no moral importance.

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                    BoneSoft
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                    High praise from you, Thanks! :thumbsup:


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                    • I Ilion

                      wolfbinary wrote:

                      What have you heard people say is evolution then?

                      The word 'evolution' means "development [of what is already there] over time" (*) and it implies teleology ... which is why St. Chuckie avoided the word. The word was first used in embryology to name the theory that embryos grow from preformed homunculi (in the case of humans) enclosed in the egg or sperm cells; that is, by this old theory, all possible future organisms already exist in miniature within their ancestors. But, hey, you don't even know yourself what you mean by the word; you're using it with multiple meanins simultaneously. (*) Contra the "Darwinsts," the word does *not* mean "change over time."

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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      wolfbinary wrote: What have you heard people say is evolution then? The word 'evolution' means "development [of what is already there] over time" (*) and it implies teleology ... which is why St. Chuckie avoided the word. The word was first used in embryology to name the theory that embryos grow from preformed homunculi (in the case of humans) enclosed in the egg or sperm cells; that is, by this old theory, all possible future organisms already exist in miniature within their ancestors. But, hey, you don't even know yourself what you mean by the word; you're using it with multiple meanins simultaneously. (*) Contra the "Darwinsts," the word does *not* mean "change over time."

                      As usual[^] you're full of shit. So, which stool are you[^]?

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                        Ilíon wrote:

                        wolfbinary wrote: What have you heard people say is evolution then? The word 'evolution' means "development [of what is already there] over time" (*) and it implies teleology ... which is why St. Chuckie avoided the word. The word was first used in embryology to name the theory that embryos grow from preformed homunculi (in the case of humans) enclosed in the egg or sperm cells; that is, by this old theory, all possible future organisms already exist in miniature within their ancestors. But, hey, you don't even know yourself what you mean by the word; you're using it with multiple meanins simultaneously. (*) Contra the "Darwinsts," the word does *not* mean "change over time."

                        As usual[^] you're full of shit. So, which stool are you[^]?

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                        wolfbinary
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                        What ever made you think to find that picture? :laugh:

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                          What ever made you think to find that picture? :laugh:

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                          73Zeppelin
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                          He's full of shit!

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                          • 7 73Zeppelin

                            He's full of shit!

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                            wolfbinary
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                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            He's full of sh*t!

                            I know he is, but what I mean is you found that picture by looking it up, I'm assuming. Some of the pictures/games I see here I don't know how you guys find that stuff when you want it. I don't seem to be able to find it when I try.

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              wolfbinary wrote: What have you heard people say is evolution then? The word 'evolution' means "development [of what is already there] over time" (*) and it implies teleology ... which is why St. Chuckie avoided the word. The word was first used in embryology to name the theory that embryos grow from preformed homunculi (in the case of humans) enclosed in the egg or sperm cells; that is, by this old theory, all possible future organisms already exist in miniature within their ancestors. But, hey, you don't even know yourself what you mean by the word; you're using it with multiple meanins simultaneously. (*) Contra the "Darwinsts," the word does *not* mean "change over time."

                              As usual[^] you're full of shit. So, which stool are you[^]?

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                              Ilion
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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              As usual[^] you're full of sh*t. So, which stool are you[^]?

                              As usual, you're so ignorant ... and so proud to be. Goodness, even Stephen Gould says that you're a proudly ignorant fool[^].

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                              • W wolfbinary

                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                He's full of sh*t!

                                I know he is, but what I mean is you found that picture by looking it up, I'm assuming. Some of the pictures/games I see here I don't know how you guys find that stuff when you want it. I don't seem to be able to find it when I try.

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                                Ilion
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                                wolfbinary wrote:

                                I know he is,

                                Then you know nothing, poor thing.

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                                  wolfbinary wrote:

                                  I thought more people believed in evolution then this in the US.

                                  I don't "believe" in evolution. I accept it as the best theory available to explain the origin of species. I have no problem with the person who tells me that evolution is part of God's plan, either. I am also aware, as apparently folks who refer to the Theory of Evolution as 'Darwinism' are not that the theory of evolution has been modified many times and in many ways as we have learned more about biological history, world history and genetics to the point where Darwin himself might not recognize what most modern evolutionary biologistwould point to when asked what evolution was. Frankly, I suspect that most people who "believe" in evolution have no idea what they are talking about - anymore than those who "disbelieve."

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                  Le centriste
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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

                                  :-D Good one!

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                                    BoneSoft wrote:

                                    Happily dismissing hundreds of years of science just because of your preachers interpretation of scripture is a little irrespsonsible.

                                    What a fool you are. And dishonest, too. For, after all, "science" is not truth. Therefore, to dismiss *any* science, even if the dismissal is done cavalierly, is of no moral importance.

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                                    0x3c0
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                                    I have a philosophical question for you: assuming that mathematics is absolute truth, that physics is the application of mathematics, and that other sciences come from an application of physics, does that mean that the derivation of mathematics is untrue? In other words, do you believe that a logical derivation of truth can be a lie? If not, why?

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                                      This came out a few days ago and I don't know if this is a repost or not, so I apologize if it is. click[^] I thought more people believed in evolution then this in the US.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      It is a logical and credible explanation supported by observation.

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                                      • 0 0x3c0

                                        I have a philosophical question for you: assuming that mathematics is absolute truth, that physics is the application of mathematics, and that other sciences come from an application of physics, does that mean that the derivation of mathematics is untrue? In other words, do you believe that a logical derivation of truth can be a lie? If not, why?

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                                        MidwestLimey
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                                        You're posing him with a philosophical dilemma. Based on your observations of his preceeding posts, tell me, are you honestly expecting a cogent answer? :)

                                        Bar fomos edo pariyart gedeem, agreo eo dranem abal edyero eyrem kalm kareore

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                                          You're posing him with a philosophical dilemma. Based on your observations of his preceeding posts, tell me, are you honestly expecting a cogent answer? :)

                                          Bar fomos edo pariyart gedeem, agreo eo dranem abal edyero eyrem kalm kareore

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                                          0x3c0
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                                          I expect him to provide a logically consistent answer, which although I may not personally agree with, I may respect OT: What does your signature mean? Google Translate thinks that it is Galician

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