Upgrading from VS 2005 to 2008

Douglas Troy

Jim, I've not used C++/MFC stuffs in VS2008, so I cannot speak to what the advantages/disadvantages would be, however, with the pending release of VS 2010, you might consider just waiting. "They" (being Microsoft) are claiming that VS2010 is the next VS6; if that turns out to be the case, I would think that's the release you would want. My two cents. (Perhaps you could download the VS2010 CTP and check into it? Just a thought)

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Rama Krishna Vavilala

Jim Crafton wrote:

no support for C++ there.

There is support via Microsoft SAL (it was in VS2005 too). Basically, you decorate your code with annotations such as the following:

_Check_return_ _CRTIMP _CONST_RETURN void * __cdecl memchr( _In_opt_bytecount_(_MaxCount) const void * _Buf , _In_ int _Val, _In_ size_t _MaxCount);

More on this here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235402(VS.80).aspx[^]

Nemanja Trifunovic

MFC Feature Pack[^] and TR1 support would be some of the reasons to switch.

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Jim Crafton

Holy crap, I just looked at that link. I think my eyes are bleeding now. Who was the fail pony that approved that monstrosity!? Definitely not going to be using that.

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Jim Crafton

Douglas Troy wrote:

(Perhaps you could download the VS2010 CTP and check into it? Just a thought)

I did actually try it a bit. I fail to see how it lives up to the claim of "VS2010 is the next VS6". I have no idea how soon we would see that at work, so it might take a good while before it's even available to me.

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Rama Krishna Vavilala

Imagine the plight of the poor developer who had to fix all the header files.

Jim Crafton

Ick, what a nightmare. I'll bet the swearing by that guy must have reached epic proportions!

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Todd Smith

Those new language features are really nice imho for C#. For C++ I have no clue. We abandoned that platform several years ago :\

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leppie

VS2008 is indeed the prettiest editor available (only to be equaled by xacc.ide :) )

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0x3c0

Yeah, they're delightful. I use LINQ in all of my personal projects nowadays

Douglas Troy

Emmm ... well, from reading what others have said about Intellisense, it might be worth the jump. Wouldn't hurt to get on 2008, so you could get all these new fang-dangled WPF/WCF articles, compile them and then join the plethora of ranting about how badly it all sucks and how the world is going to end in a fiery pit of hell spawn mac lovers. ... or something along those lines, anyway.

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Joe Woodbury

I use both (and VC++ 6.) For C++, VS 2008 is a marginal improvement over VS 2005. I don't think it's worth purchasing the upgrade, but definitely worthwhile if you already have a copy. (If upgrading from VC++ 6, it's worth skipping VS 2005, though we're taking so long where I'm at, I figure VS 2010 will be out. [FYI, it has to do with out installed base of XPe systems and getting the runtimes down.])

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Dan Neely

Isn't that team edition only?

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Nish Nishant

dan neely wrote:

Isn't that team edition only?

Could be - I usually install the highest edition that comes with MSDN.

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Member 96

Really? I could find no useful purpose at all for LINQ, quite the opposite, it makes highly dense hard to maintain code that provides no real world benefit at all except to make developers feel like they're doing something new and cool. :)

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Stuart Dootson

I suppose I fit your profile - the only MS language I use is C++, and I upgraded to VS2008, but that's for new code. I never really used VS2005, so it was an upgrade from VS2003. Overall, I'm happy enough with it. One thing I did find is that on my workstation @ work (HP xw4400, 2.4GHZ Core2Duo, 4GB RAM, XP Pro), it seems really slow when entering the debugger and single-stepping. However, when I use it on my Mac (2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM), using Windows 7 beta on VMWare Fusion, those issues aren't present. I wonder if (for whatever reason) Windows 7 (and possibly Vista - although I've not tested that - Christian told me not to ;P ) has got some advantage over XP for that particular scenario?

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Henry Minute

John C wrote:

it makes highly dense hard to maintain code

I agree with you there. :thumbsup: Although I sort of hope it catches on, in which case the maintenance difficulties will decrease.

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Dan Neely

My MSDN only comes with pro...

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

i think vs2008 is more C++ standards compliant. it also is way less buggy in my experience and handles large solutions much more adroitly. the ide is more stable. intellisense is better too.

RDABC

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