Upgrading from VS 2005 to 2008

Jim Crafton

Ick, what a nightmare. I'll bet the swearing by that guy must have reached epic proportions!

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Todd Smith

Those new language features are really nice imho for C#. For C++ I have no clue. We abandoned that platform several years ago :\

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leppie

VS2008 is indeed the prettiest editor available (only to be equaled by xacc.ide :) )

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0x3c0

Yeah, they're delightful. I use LINQ in all of my personal projects nowadays

Douglas Troy

Emmm ... well, from reading what others have said about Intellisense, it might be worth the jump. Wouldn't hurt to get on 2008, so you could get all these new fang-dangled WPF/WCF articles, compile them and then join the plethora of ranting about how badly it all sucks and how the world is going to end in a fiery pit of hell spawn mac lovers. ... or something along those lines, anyway.

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Joe Woodbury

I use both (and VC++ 6.) For C++, VS 2008 is a marginal improvement over VS 2005. I don't think it's worth purchasing the upgrade, but definitely worthwhile if you already have a copy. (If upgrading from VC++ 6, it's worth skipping VS 2005, though we're taking so long where I'm at, I figure VS 2010 will be out. [FYI, it has to do with out installed base of XPe systems and getting the runtimes down.])

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Dan Neely

Isn't that team edition only?

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Nish Nishant

dan neely wrote:

Isn't that team edition only?

Could be - I usually install the highest edition that comes with MSDN.

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Member 96

Really? I could find no useful purpose at all for LINQ, quite the opposite, it makes highly dense hard to maintain code that provides no real world benefit at all except to make developers feel like they're doing something new and cool. :)

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Stuart Dootson

I suppose I fit your profile - the only MS language I use is C++, and I upgraded to VS2008, but that's for new code. I never really used VS2005, so it was an upgrade from VS2003. Overall, I'm happy enough with it. One thing I did find is that on my workstation @ work (HP xw4400, 2.4GHZ Core2Duo, 4GB RAM, XP Pro), it seems really slow when entering the debugger and single-stepping. However, when I use it on my Mac (2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM), using Windows 7 beta on VMWare Fusion, those issues aren't present. I wonder if (for whatever reason) Windows 7 (and possibly Vista - although I've not tested that - Christian told me not to ;P ) has got some advantage over XP for that particular scenario?

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Henry Minute

John C wrote:

it makes highly dense hard to maintain code

I agree with you there. :thumbsup: Although I sort of hope it catches on, in which case the maintenance difficulties will decrease.

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Dan Neely

My MSDN only comes with pro...

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

i think vs2008 is more C++ standards compliant. it also is way less buggy in my experience and handles large solutions much more adroitly. the ide is more stable. intellisense is better too.

RDABC

Finally found out what purkinje cells are for, wholy smokes! There really is a good use for decorators but the example is overloaded to get as much in as possible.

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RDABC

I used the 2008 trial for C++ and it was a pleasure to use bringing more functionality to IS. I did not have much of a chance to dig into added functionality but all the(almost) dot net stuff extends to the C++ world. Most of our concerns is if 2008 has a better IDE that plays better with large projects/solutions. [rant]Will they fix the "go to declaration" link to the actual source when the project is in solution. It's stupid to open meta data on a local project.

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S Senthil Kumar

John C wrote:

I could find no useful purpose at all for LINQ

I haven't used it much, but from my limited experience with LINQ to objects, I find that it helps make the intent clearer. It would take a lot more lines of code to get the same "pipeline" behavior working without the LINQ extension methods.

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If it doesn't benefit the end user in some tangible way I don't use it.

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Mike Diack

I'd say do it from my C++ experience. 1) VS 2008 is in my experience significantly faster than 2005 to work with 2) VS 2008 SP1 includes a feature pack of TR1 and MFC enhancements for C++ 3) Intellisense is better (though Visual Assist is much better still) 4) It's newer - thus will be supported for longer. It feels like the product VS 2005 should've been. Mike

0x3c0

John C wrote:

except to make developers feel like they're doing something new and cool

That'll be me then :)